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[W:#74, #319]How many lives a year are saved by "thoughts and prayers"?

[W:#74]How many lives are saved by "thoughts and prayers" every year?

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TurtleDude said:
the faux outrage seems to be coming from the usual anti gun group pretending to care about the dead children, so they can bash gun owners
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I'm sure you think that.
 
ALiberalModerate said:
No, its the notion that prayers will somehow prevent this from happening again is what is obscene. Moreover, to continually tell these parents after these senseless tragedies that they are in our thoughts and prayers, but we never do anything to prevent the next school mass shooting is obscene. We treat "thoughts and prayers" like a form letter rather than a call to action.
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You've moved the goal posts far from the O/P of yours. And now you're building strawman fails. Plenty of us who are also believers have been discussing ways we might prevent future shootings. We pray but we do not leave it up to God to prevent the next school shooting.
There's at least a half dozen threads going on this very subject and here you are partaking in some petty severe intellectual dishonesty.
 
watsup said:
There’s no hypocrisy, in spite of your feeble attempt at gaslighting. And stop trying to redefine the thread so that you can post the same old tired gun wackos defenses that we get after every gun massacre. And there are lots of them.
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Your lame denial of hypocrisy doesn't make it go away. The degree of selective outrage over this issue compared to much bigger ones is plain for all with half a brain to see.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
One small short-term study means nothing. Many big long-term studies around the world by Christian theologians combined tell a totally different story.
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Someone asked, I provided a study
 
TurtleDude said:
the faux outrage seems to be coming from the usual anti gun group pretending to care about the dead children, so they can bash gun owners
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Yes, it's all conservatives in this thread declaring, "RIGHTS DON"T MATTER! WE MUST SAVE THE CHILDREN! SAVE THE CHILDREN!".

Oops. Wait. That's in the abortion threads.
 
JMB802 said:
Yes, it's all conservatives in this thread declaring, "RIGHTS DON"T MATTER! WE MUST SAVE THE CHILDREN! SAVE THE CHILDREN!"

Oops. Wait. That's in the abortion threads.
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Except when a thread is comparing gun control and abortion like at least two do now.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
You did not have to imply one small short-term study is enough to prove prayer never heals any sick people.
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But, you have nothing but anecdotes for your argument.
 
reflechissez said:
That's individuals "praying" for themselves; they're the only ones who have the power to act on that "prayer."

You and I praying for the victims of school shootings makes no difference.
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No one claims that prayer stops bullets or resurrects. That is a pointlessly dumb conversation.

Also people ask all the time for others to pray for them. You may not see value but that doesn't mean that isn't any.
 
watsup said:
You are the one making wild claims about decides to do and not to do. I was merely giving an example.
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These is not valid example of using the slaughter of children to justify mocking a persons religion because you don't share it.
 
Kreton said:
These is not valid example of using the slaughter of children to justify mocking a persons religion because you don't share it.
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No one is mocking someone's religion, but rather challenging ideas and notions, just like we do for any other belief system. You challenge ideologies you disagree with all the time, yet you somehow seem to believe that if someone calls their ideas a "faith", that it should be immune to being challenged.
 
ALiberalModerate said:
Simple question, how many lives a year are saved by "thoughts and prayers"?
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Being that this is in the realm of the spiritual it is not knowable and trying to quantify it is a fools errand

You either believe. ............Or you don't
 
trixare4kids said:
Sure I did. I was asked a question.

The question asked by the O/Poster: "Simple question, how many lives a year are saved by "thoughts and prayers"?

I replied: Mine was
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I have bad news and I’m really sorry that I haven’t told you this sooner. My father was very ill a few years ago and I spent three nights engaging in an ancient pagan ritual in which I bequeathed your soul to the devil - acting as a conduit named capable of such by moloch - But long story short, I know that you think your life was saved but actually you are doomed for eternity. My father’s life was saved. I thought it was only fair that you know this and the sooner that you hail Satan and except him as the one true master of man celestial and earthly pleasure the sooner you can cope with this news. It’s just one of those things that happens when you believe in the wrong God. Of course if you think that I’m trying to make a point I would urge you to believe that the point is if something supernatural did happen the idea that you would immediately be able to say that you understood exactly what took place is ridiculous.
 
Kreton said:
No one claims that prayer stops bullets or resurrects. That is a pointlessly dumb conversation.

Also people ask all the time for others to pray for them. You may not see value but that doesn't mean that isn't any.
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This thread is questioning said "value."
 
Overitall said:
I'm confident that many parents that have lost their children do not blame God. In fact many of them turn to God for comfort during times of great grief and find that comfort.
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I did and do.
 
Mustachio said:
I have bad news and I’m really sorry that I haven’t told you this sooner. My father was very ill a few years ago and I spent three nights engaging in an ancient pagan ritual in which I bequeathed your soul to the devil - acting as a conduit named capable of such by moloch - But long story short, I know that you think your life was saved but actually you are doomed for eternity. My father’s life was saved. I thought it was only fair that you know this and the sooner that you hail Satan and except him as the one true master of man celestial and earthly pleasure the sooner you can cope with this news. It’s just one of those things that happens when you believe in the wrong God. Of course if you think that I’m trying to make a point I would urge you to believe that the point is if something supernatural did happen the idea that you would immediately be able to say that you understood exactly what took place is ridiculous.
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There are no words... Coming from me, let's just say this is very rare.

I'll just let your "bad news" stand here on its own.
 
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