• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!
  • Welcome to our archives. No new posts are allowed here.

[W:720, 995]Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

ReubenSherr said:
Only if you all cheat.

Which is what the Biden campaign is already doing.

Releasing this false story, based on sketchy anonymous sourcing, a week before most military voters just happen to receive their ballots in the mail.

When it turns out two weeks from now that this story is officially confirmed false, oh well, many military voters will have already cast their ballots, based on false reporting.
Click to expand...

The sourcing is solid - its not sketchy.

Are you saying the reporters are lying about this, or the source?

And if its the source, how do you know?
 
The US military brass made it to the cemetery. European heads of state made it to the cemetery, Canada also.

But Trumpov couldn't make it.

But he did manage to hobnob with Putin the very next day at a conference in Paris.
 
Lord of Planar said:
That's 3G for ya....
Click to expand...

Again, read for yourself.


https://twitter.com/jengriffinfnc/status/1301975321495973889?s=21


Two former sr Trump admin officials confirm .@JeffreyGoldberg reporting that President Trump disparaged veterans and did not want to drive to honor American war dead at Aisne-Marne Cemetery outside Paris.

According to one former senior Trump administration official: "When the President spoke about the Vietnam War, he said, 'It was a stupid war. Anyone who went was a sucker'."

This former official heard the President say about American veterans: "What's in it for them? They don't make any money." Source: "It was a character flaw of the President. He could not understand why someone would die for their country, not worth it."

I read the source a few quotes from The Atlantic article. This former Trump admin official said, "The President would say things like that. He doesn't know why people join the military. He would muse, 'Why do they do it'?"
Re: trip to mark 100th anniversary of WW I

Source: "The President was not in a good mood. Macron had said something that made him mad about American reliability and the need perhaps for a European army. He questioned why he had to go to two cemeteries. 'Why do I have to do two'?"

President Trump's staff explained he could cancel (his visit to the cemetery), but he was warned, 'They (the press) are going to kill you for this'." The President was mad as a hornet when they did.

When asked IF the President could have driven to the Aisne-Marne Cemetery, this former official said confidently:
"The President drives a lot. The other world leaders drove to the cemeteries. He just didn't want to go."

Regarding Trump's July 4th military parade, during a planning session at the White House after seeing the Bastille Day parade in 2017, the President said regarding the inclusion of "wounded guys" "that's not a good look" "Americans don't like that," source confirms.

Regarding McCain, "The President just hated John McCain. He always asked, 'Why do you see him as a hero?" Two sources confirmed the President did not want flags lowered but others in the White House ordered them at half mast. There was a stand off and then the President relented.
Click to expand...
 
Tahuyaman said:
Impeachment wasn’t based on a book. It was based on partisan politics and everyone knows that.
Click to expand...

I didn't say it was. You should go re-read that post and what I was responding to.
You're embarrassing yourself.
 
Tahuyaman said:
Lack of saying he didn’t isn’t saying he did.
Click to expand...

Well yes, actually his non-statement is speaking very loudly. Consider this. If this is 100% false, General Kelly would be doing the patriotic thing by clarifying this issue. It would clear Trump of any insult to his son. What man, particularly a US General and patriotic American, wouldn't want to do that? Denying this claim, in no uncertain terms, would entirely vindicate Trump. If this were the case, this is exactly what a former US General would do.

On the other hand, as a career General, his fundamental commitment is to the United States, as was his dead son who gave up his life defending it. If the story is true, General John Kelly would naturally be reticent to validate it because it would create a firestorm and he would be the target of death threats and conspiracy theories propagated particularly by Fox. He would be made out to be a liar and every dirty thing he may have done in the past would be brought out in the public eye.
 
roguenuke said:
Which doesn't prove it wrong. Those saying "we never heard him say that" were not with him the absolute entire time.

Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

actually it does. you lose debunked good bye.
 
ludin said:
actually it does. you lose debunked good bye.
Click to expand...

Trump said it, Fox confirmed it, its true.

Cult like denial is hard to get over, but you will....
 
beefheart said:
Trump said it, Fox confirmed it, its true.

Cult like denial is hard to get over, but you will....
Click to expand...

except they didn't. go figure on that one.
*yawn*
next dishonesty from you in 5 minutes or so.
The only cultists are you leftist.

it is kinda funny to watch you guys though.
I would laugh if it wasn't so sad and pathetic.
 
jpn said:
The president has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members, and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades, multiple sources tell The Atlantic.



Figures. He threatened to disown his son when Donald Jr. mentioned that he was thinking of joining the military.

Our Command in Chief. God help us.
Click to expand...

multiple sources

inside sources

love all of these sources who NEVER say who they are....if they are proud enough of what they are doing, let them put their name to the quotes

same damn thing with Obama's administration and previous ones....

you have something to say, say it....and be honest and open enough to put you damned name behind it

and these so called journalistic articles are trash....FROM BOTH SIDES

the right has theirs also.....they are just as bad

the journalism in this country has gone to total ****
 
beefheart said:
Trump said it, Fox confirmed it, its true.

Cult like denial is hard to get over, but you will....
Click to expand...

What she confirmed was that anonymous administration sources say he said it. Not who they were, how reliable they were, or even if he actually did say it, just anonymous hearsay at this point.

Saying its confirmed is kind of premature.
 
OpportunityCost said:
What she confirmed was that anonymous administration sources say he said it. Not who they were, how reliable they were, or even if he actually did say it, just anonymous hearsay at this point.

Saying its confirmed is kind of premature.
Click to expand...

Get over it. Your cult leader is a real dick.
 
ludin said:
except they didn't. go figure on that one.
*yawn*
next dishonesty from you in 5 minutes or so.
The only cultists are you leftist.

it is kinda funny to watch you guys though.
I would laugh if it wasn't so sad and pathetic.
Click to expand...

You sore bro?
 
HumblePi said:
Well yes, actually his non-statement is speaking very loudly. Consider this. If this is 100% false, General Kelly would be doing the patriotic thing by clarifying this issue. It would clear Trump of any insult to his son. What man, particularly a US General and patriotic American, wouldn't want to do that? Denying this claim, in no uncertain terms, would entirely vindicate Trump. If this were the case, this is exactly what a former US General would do.

On the other hand, as a career General, his fundamental commitment is to the United States, as was his dead son who gave up his life defending it. If the story is true, General John Kelly would naturally be reticent to validate it because it would create a firestorm and he would be the target of death threats and conspiracy theories propagated particularly by Fox. He would be made out to be a liar and every dirty thing he may have done in the past would be brought out in the public eye.
Click to expand...
On the other hand.. No.
 
ReubenSherr said:
Only if you all cheat.

Which is what the Biden campaign is already doing.

Releasing this false story, based on sketchy anonymous sourcing, a week before most military voters just happen to receive their ballots in the mail.

When it turns out two weeks from now that this story is officially confirmed false, oh well, many military voters will have already cast their ballots, based on false reporting.
Click to expand...

There’s false reporting on both sides, so it evens out.
 
beefheart said:
Get over it. Your cult leader is a real dick.
Click to expand...

I get it. You know I am 100% correct that she didn't confirm it, so you have to try to fish for a reaction because it is all you have left to go with, your argument is pure speculation.
 
It's in character for him.

This has legs.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom