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[W:#690]McCarthy falls short in first vote for House speaker

So, does anyone believe any deals were made in the wee hours of the morning to select a speaker on the first vote today (Wed, Jan 4) or will we be treated to Round Two of futility?
 
I’m having a blast of schadenfreude. Ever since the Tea Party, they have thrown governance out the window in favor of theater and getting on Fox News.

McCarthy deserves every second of this and I am going to be enjoying it until it ends, one way or the other.
 
You can take your want to dictate some other place.... it won't work here... If your head is so dense you can't digest that, then anguish yourself all you want....
no one forced you to read anything!!!!
Off topic spamming is a thread derailment, and against forum rules.
 
So, does anyone believe any deals were made in the wee hours of the morning to select a speaker on the first vote today (Wed, Jan 4) or will we be treated to Round Two of futility?
I suspect last night was busy as it will likely be this morning. I'm curious as to who is going to yield here, because if it's more McCarthy concessions to the 20 "Never McCarthy" members from yesterday, this could end up a Pyrrhic victory in that the Speaker will still look weak and unable to do much against the minority in his ranks without giving up his shirt.
 
Look, Tom, I and we are well aware that the left will demonize any person who "fights" them, and (like Trump) I don't mean an actual fight but politically. If you name any person in politics that calls out the Democrats for who and what they are, that person will be denigrated and demonized. This is a tried and true tactic used by the left for decades now. The left sees DeSantis as a major threat so the demonization has started in earnest, and they hate him because Florida is successful and prosperous and people are moving out of Demoract areas to Florida so fast that I think Florida may start sinking into the ocean from the sheer weight.

I LOVE Matt Gaetz because the director for CNN that said he was successful in using FEAR to remove Trump also went after Gaetz and he fought back against the lies and won. I love his comment that the protesters against abortion are fat and could never get a date so why would they be worried about abortion? A female reporter thought she'd pose a "gotcha" question and asked "Don't you think that 'some' people will be offended when you say the protesters look like "thumbs"? His response is a classic.

"Let them be offended"

We NEED people like him desperately in office. We need to fight fire with fire now against the evil Democrats.

Thank you for making my point.

Of course, you had no rebuttal. So you made up some empty nonsense about ”the left demonizing any person who “Fights” them”/

Aside from the emptiness of the general assertion, it has noting to do with Matt Gaetz.

He’s not “fighting” anything. (It’s telling that you admit that by putting his “Fighting” in parenthesis).

Gaetz is scum. He‘s a right wing crank whose only real achievement is being on trashy right wing media.

And, of course, he wants to cash in. As “swampy” as they come.

You get your news from social media tabloids, fake news, and trashy right wing media.

And, as you’ve practically boasted in your post, you really don’t care about the work of government.

And you’ve declared repeatedly that your comfortable with being lied to. You always come back for more.

I doubt that you’re alone amongst trumpsters in this. You all do see to prefer red meat and gossip over understanding how your government works, or real political issues.

Seeing the world through the shallow lens of “gotcha“ plays to win a news cycle doesn’t equate or even promote good or effective government.

I noted that you obviously don‘s care about that. You care about the media circus.

You made my point far better than I could.


Enjoy your media circus. You’re an easy mark for con men. All you want is to be pandered to and have a cohort to endorse your prejudices and fears.
 
That shows you how bad that Pelosi and the Democrats were.
Do you actually think that made sense? The last of the young guns can't even get his gang on course after giving away the store. Meanwhile D's 100% behind Jefferies. The D's had a very productive session under Pelosi. These clowns are actually voting for Gym Jordan, who doesn't want the extreme exposure given his College wrestling scandal, to be brought back up.
 
Dude. Sit still. Listen. Brace yourself.

It never, ever took Democrats three rounds of voting to elect Nancy Pelosi as speaker. It didn't take three rounds of voting to nominate Hakim Jeffries as the heir apparent. We ain't the ones having the bro-down. That's y'all.
Of course it didn't. Being united in hating the country and wanting to destroy it is not a good thing.
 
I suspect last night was busy as it will likely be this morning. I'm curious as to who is going to yield here, because if it's more McCarthy concessions to the 20 "Never McCarthy" members from yesterday, this could end up a Pyrrhic victory in that the Speaker will still look weak and unable to do much against the minority in his ranks without giving up his shirt.

Nobody got any sleep.
 
So, does anyone believe any deals were made in the wee hours of the morning to select a speaker on the first vote today (Wed, Jan 4) or will we be treated to Round Two of futility?
I hope Trump called them and offered his services.
 
Of course it didn't. Being united in hating the country and wanting to destroy it is not a good thing.

This is just bullshit.

We love this country, and we came together to boot the orange anus out of office so he could not continue selling it out.

Just stop.
 
Thank you for making my point.

Of course, you had no rebuttal. So you made up some empty nonsense about ”the left demonizing any person who “Fights” them”/

Aside from the emptiness of the general assertion, it has noting to do with Matt Gaetz.

He’s not “fighting” anything. (It’s telling that you admit that by putting his “Fighting” in parenthesis).

Gaetz is scum. He‘s a right wing crank whose only real achievement is being on trashy right wing media.

And, of course, he wants to cash in. As “swampy” as they come.

You get your news from social media tabloids, fake news, and trashy right wing media.

And, as you’ve practically boasted in your post, you really don’t care about the work of government.

And you’ve declared repeatedly that your comfortable with being lied to. You always come back for more.

I doubt that you’re alone amongst trumpsters in this. You all do see to prefer red meat and gossip over understanding how your government works, or real political issues.

Seeing the world through the shallow lens of “gotcha“ plays to win a news cycle doesn’t equate or even promote good or effective government.

I noted that you obviously don‘s care about that. You care about the media circus.

You made my point far better than I could.


Enjoy your media circus. You’re an easy mark for con men. All you want is to be pandered to and have a cohort to endorse your prejudices and fears.
Thank you.


Oh, and ...............
Be offended.
 
This is just bullshit.

We love this country, and we came together to boot the orange anus out of office so he could not continue selling it out.

Just stop.
Just words. Democrat's action speak otherwise. Gas prices, inflation, Afghanistan, Russia/Ukraine, China, the border, and on and on. What destruction do you guys have in store for this year? Maybe nukes for Iran?
 
Jeffries currently is the top vote getter! He's at 212. If this was plurality or ranked choice voting, he'd be Speaker!
So all that's needed is six R who want the house to work & we're good.
 
Gym Jordan has no interest in passing bills, just being House Judiciary Chair so he can investigate the Bidens.
Yes, and?

Can we all be adults here and recognize that nearly every bill passed by the GOP house will be defeated in the Senate? If a miracle occurs and something that the GOP had proposed passes the senate, the POTUS will just veto the bill.

So let's just stop with the whining about not passing desired legislation being tantamount to a "non-functioning" government. This is how our republic is designed.

Oversight, investigation and impeachment are the priorities. That IS "functioning".
 
I’m having a blast of schadenfreude. Ever since the Tea Party, they have thrown governance out the window in favor of theater and getting on Fox News.
What do you mean by "governance" in this context?
 
Just words. Democrat's action speak otherwise. Gas prices, inflation, Afghanistan, Russia/Ukraine, China, the border, and on and on. What destruction do you guys have in store for this year? Maybe nukes for Iran?

The issue in Afghanistan was started by a republican and a democrat was left to carry out the withdrawal based on a timeline created by Trump. The border is nonsensical bullshit created by the right. Gas prices are not within the control of the president. Russia illegally invaded Ukraine. China is being handled.

Stop the partisan bullshit please.
 
After two hours of Fox, including multiple GOP House critters appearing, I swear I still don't know what the complaints are against McCarthy.

No one seems to be able to articulate the situation.
No one want's to say it, but they don't trust him. He's giving away the store & prob'ly making the same promises to multiple people. His backbone is overcooked spaghetti.
 
Of course it didn't. Being united in hating the country and wanting to destroy it is not a good thing.

Sorry, but you’re out to lunch again.

Where do you get the notion that it is Democrat’s job to do the GOP’s job for them.

The GOP took the majority in the last election. They pick the Speaker.

The fact that the trump trash tail is trying to wag the Republican dog again is not the Democrat’s problem.
 
Reaching across the aisle ?

This is a GOP only problem.
No, the refusal of Pelosi (and democrat leadership in general) to reach across the isle is everyone's problem.
 
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