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[W:#656]What Age Should be Required to Legally Purchase an AR-15 in the US?

What Age Should be Required to Legally Purchase an AR-15 in the US?

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SkyFox76 said:
TD I could write a 100 pages on the topic just to have you respond with "but mahhh guns!!" You show that repeatedly in here over and over. Your posts attack people suggesting their anti gun even when that's not their stance. Two nights ago you accused me of lying that that no one wants guns banned. Absolutely nowhere have I ever made any such statement because I know for a fact that there are people that do. But that's just what you do. You start lashing out all directions without comprehending what you read.

You're not here for debate on the issue because there is no debate on the issue in your world. It's guns and more guns. I told you you're not my first rodeo with your type and you won't be the last.
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SkyFox76 said:
But I do know it's a wasted effort to ever think you'd budge even a centimeter over the possession of your weapons.
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Curious.
What weapons should @TurtleDude, iyo, give up, to save future lives?
 
TurtleDude said:
where is your ire for this nonsense

1)the only purpose for an AR 15 to kill lots of people
2) anyone who owns or advocates an AR 15 for home defense is a moron
3) semi automatics are only for killing people
4) you don't need more than 2, 6,10 rounds for home defense
5) the second amendment only protects the right of the militia
6) the second amendment only applies to muskets
7) gun owners are to blame for mass shootings
8) gun owners are "fetishists" or are Gun "Rubbers
9) those who play with guns are responsible for the shootings
10) guns are toys
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TD what part of there is no debating with you don't you understand? There are millions of gun owners who realize we have a problem in this country. It's obvious you're not one of them. So no need to continue.
 
SkyFox76 said:
TD what part of there is no debating with you don't you understand? There are millions of gun owners who realize we have a problem in this country. It's obvious you're not one of them. So no need to continue.
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of course there is a problem-you were asked-what guns of mine-or rights do you want me to give up so you can pretend you did something to solve the problem.

why are honest gun owners supposed to do something about criminals?
 
Logician Man said:
Actually, I do both, as is reflected in my posts. You should try the same some time. Just a thought.
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well I haven't seen much in the way of thought going into your posts-do you have an answer to the poll question?
 
SkyFox76 said:
Just out of random? If a ban were place on AR-15's then as a responsible gun owner do you think he should turn them over?
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No. Like the 1994 ban, responsible gun owners should be grandfathered, be able to keep their AR-15(s).
 
TurtleDude said:
well I haven't seen much in the way of thought going into your posts-do you have an answer to the poll question?
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Color me surprised you "haven't seen much thought going" into my posts. That would require you to step out of your comfort zone, which "others" here in this very thread "have noted" ain't ever gonna happen.
 
TurtleDude said:
of course there is a problem-you were asked-what guns of mine-or rights do you want me to give up so you can pretend you did something to solve the problem.

why are honest gun owners supposed to do something about criminals?
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See the difference between @trixare4kids and you is she can generally debate an issue. I hadn't even seen her question, but I just gave my opinion on what weapon/why. At the same time I can't say I agree that 21 should be the age for ALL weapons but I do agree with her that mental evaluations would be a good step forward. You slam dunked all those right off the bat.
 
SkyFox76 said:
TD what part of there is no debating with you don't you understand? There are millions of gun owners who realize we have a problem in this country. It's obvious you're not one of them. So no need to continue.
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He's not unique in his belief. I think he does realize we have a problem in this country. He simply defines it differently than those who want to take the guns of responsible gun owners from them in an attempt to solve it.
 
trixare4kids said:
No. Like the 1994 ban, responsible gun owners should be grandfathered, be able to keep their AR-15(s).
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What if the law said you had to surrender the weapon or face prison?
I've heard some say they'd shoot any government official who tried to take the guns.

What would you do?
 
trixare4kids said:
No. Like the 1994 ban, responsible gun owners should be grandfathered, be able to keep their AR-15(s).
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Okay so then that wouldn't really be addressing the problem. Let's just say for laughs AR-15's were banned, but Ramos grandfather (yes I know he was a felon) had an AR-15. When Ramo turned 18 grandpa handed it over to him. Just because grandpa was responsible was Ramos?
 
SkyFox76 said:
See the difference between @trixare4kids and you is she can generally debate an issue. I hadn't even seen her question, but I just gave my opinion on what weapon/why. At the same time I can't say I agree that 21 should be the age for ALL weapons but I do agree with her that mental evaluations would be a good step forward. You slam dunked all those right off the bat.
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I do agree with you on the age, and the mental evaluations, and character references in order to buy guns. People will say I am infringing on their rights. I ask, in what way? We have to compromise. Compromise is a part of coming to workable solutions for the good of all. We have to take a look at what is honestly happening while also trying to protect the gun rights of responsible gun owners like @TurtleDude.
 
Peter said:
What if the law said you had to surrender the weapon or face prison?
I've heard some say they'd shoot any government official who tried to take the guns.

What would you do?
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I wouldn't be for that law and I doubt seriously any draconian law like the above would happen in this country.
We should grandfather those who already own their guns because there is no just cause to remove them from the law abiding citizen.
 
Personally I think the age limits we have for various things are all over the place. What is magical about 18 and 21? 18 year olds are still in high school and 21 year olds have been out of school for a long time. How about 19 for everything? smoke cigarettes 19. Buy a gun 19. Join the military 19. Buy booze 19. At least 19 year olds are out of high school for a year. An AR 15 is just a gun. Its not a machine gun. Buy an AR15 or another gun. 19.
 
SkyFox76 said:
Okay so then that wouldn't really be addressing the problem.
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Why not?
SkyFox76 said:
Let's just say for laughs AR-15's were banned, but Ramos grandfather (yes I know he was a felon) had an AR-15. When Ramo turned 18 grandpa handed it over to him. Just because grandpa was responsible was Ramos?
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Felons aren't allowed to own guns to begin with. Right? Your question raises a moot point.
 
trixare4kids said:
He's not unique in his belief. I think he does realize we have a problem in this country. He simply defines it differently than those who want to take the guns of responsible gun owners from them in an attempt to solve it.
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No, I've made it clear I've dealt with his kind in the past and what you think and what he displays are two different animals. He can define it however the hell he wants calling other people's idea stupid or crazy, but he can't flat out lie about what I've said and expect me to just cozy up to it. I gave him a chance to correct it and he ran off.
 
trixare4kids said:
I wouldn't be for that law and I doubt seriously any draconian law like the above would happen in this country.
We should grandfather those who already own their guns because there is no just cause to remove them from the law abiding citizen.
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I'm not saying it will happen it's just a scenario I've heard discussed about how some would shoot anyone trying to take a gun.

To be honest I don't think they would unless they find the prospect of prison appealing.
 
trixare4kids said:
I do agree with you on the age, and the mental evaluations, and character references in order to buy guns. People will say I am infringing on their rights. I ask, in what way? We have to compromise. Compromise is a part of coming to workable solutions for the good of all. We have to take a look at what is honestly happening while also trying to protect the gun rights of responsible gun owners like @TurtleDude.
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what do the gun banners give us for that compromise?
 
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