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[W:#656]What Age Should be Required to Legally Purchase an AR-15 in the US?

What Age Should be Required to Legally Purchase an AR-15 in the US?


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You may as well as me why he "snapped" when he did. The two are likely related.
He had been planning it for months on end. He wanted his sister to buy him an AR last September so he could do it then. Yet he had to wait until he was 18.
 
When making your choice, consider the age that a human brain is mature enough to make proper decisions to one's best ability for understanding what's best for all.




In the 1990s, sales of AR-15 style rifles increased dramatically, partly as a result of the introduction of the flat top upper receiver (M4 variant) which allowed scopes and sighting devices to be easily mounted as well as new features such as free floating hand guards that increased accuracy.[69] While only a handful of companies were manufacturing these rifles in 1994, by the 21st century the number of AR-15 style rifles had more than doubled.[71] From 2000 to 2015, the number of manufacturers of AR-15 style variants and knock-offs increased from 29 to about 500.[72] AR-15 style rifles are now available in a wide range of configurations and calibers from a large number of manufacturers. These configurations range from standard full-sizes rifles with 20-inch (51 cm) barrels, to short carbine-length models with 16-inch (41 cm) barrels, adjustable length stocks and optical sights, to long range target models with 24-inch (61 cm) barrels, bipods and high-powered scopes.[73]

In September 2019, Colt Firearms announced it was discontinuing production of the AR-15 for the consumer market, citing "significant excess manufacturing capacity" across the industry and the company's "high-volume contracts" with military and police forces that were "absorbing all of Colt's manufacturing capacity for rifles."[74] However, in 2020 Colt resumed production of the AR-15, following a surge in demand in the United States consumer market.[75]

Estimates vary as to how many of the rifles are owned in the United States. The National Shooting Sports Foundation has estimated that approximately 5 million to 10 million AR-15 style rifles exist in the U.S. within the broader total of the 300 million firearms owned by Americans.[76]







The type of gun used to kill 21 people, including 19 children, at a Uvalde, Texas, elementary school on Tuesday was also used for 11 other mass shootings since 2012, according to USA Today.

The gun is an AR-15 style rifle, which is a semiautomatic, or "self-loading," assault rifle. The weapon was dubbed as "America's rifle" by the NRA, which is holding its annual convention about four hours from Uvalde in Houston on Friday and Saturday.






“We hear that all the time, and people like that aren’t going to follow whatever law you pass,” he said.

But he said lawmakers should consider whether 18-year-olds are able to legally purchase weapons like the AR-15.


“I’m not in a position where I’ll be able to work on that specifically, but it’s certainly — when I hear that, it gives me pause,” he said. “Maybe we should discuss that. We do have limits — 21 years old for drinking and things like that, so it may be worth looking at something like that.”
AR-15's should not be available at any age. Your choices don't really make much sense. For males, the brain does not really stop developing until about 26.
 
AR-15's should not be available at any age. Your choices don't really make much sense. For males, the brain does not really stop developing until about 26.
There is nothing inherently more dangerous about an AR-15 then from any form of modern firearm. The AR-15 is an ideal weapon for many lawful uses.
 
When making your choice, consider the age that a human brain is mature enough to make proper decisions to one's best ability for understanding what's best for all.
Tempering my answer with that in mind, in the 70's and earlier... 16.

Today's youth seem to have no wisdom, so I'd say 25.
 
I do not know anything about guns.

But I keep hearing about AR-15s.

I went to Wikipedia and found out it is some kind of rifle.

If a person wants to protect him-, herself against all the many bad people in this country, isn't a simple pistol enough?

So maybe no one should be allowed to buy an AR-21.

If you need more than a simple pistol to scare or kill a bad guy (or gal), then maybe your situation is hopeless.

We have to draw a limit to what kind of guns that ordinary citizens can buy.

*****

P.S. I went to Amazon to find some kind of protection against dogs that might hurt me. The website told me that I could not buy those products because presumably here in California there may be some laws against any kind of spray that can hurt the little doggy. The only protection that I have is something that I bought at a pet store. It just makes some kind of sound that is designed to stop the doggy in its tracks. There seems to be more interest in protecting little doggies than in protecting human beings.
Rifles aren't really that good for defensive purposes except in rare situations.

Sawed off shotguns and pistols are the way to go for home protection.
 
As an urbanite who has never owned a gun and knows little about them, I have a genuine question for gun-owners. Are there any actual use cases for owning an AR-15? It seems like I only ever hear people talk about owning an AR-15 to own the libs, or occasionally they have some paranoid fantasy about overthrowing the government. But maybe that's just a result of my information bubble.

In your day-to-day life, are there any situations where an AR-15 is actually the most practical weapon for...whatever you use it for? I genuinely don't know.
Well the first thing is that most people who want to ban the AR-15 don’t like guns broadly and do not believe firearms have legitimate uses beyond use by law enforcement or hunters.

In fact most people demanding gun control specifically point to countries like Canada or Australia, or the UK which have laws that explicitly deny that self defense is a legitimate reason to own a firearm. They never point to countries like the Czech Republic or Jamaica where self defense is a reason written into the law.

The AR-15 is a practical rifle for several uses, the first is competition, and in fact tactical style shooting sports have become very popular.

It is practical for self defense, especially inside the home, because it’s lightweight, accurate, and 5.56mm ammunition has a light bullet weight and high velocity, reducing over penetration of walls (this is why SWAT teams long ago ditched pistol caliber sub machine guns for ARs, because ARs don’t penetrate doors or walls as easily)

It’s a practical rifle for many forms of hunting such as professional pest control. Most often against feral pigs but also against coyotes. ARs have become more popular as hunting rifles as well.

So there is many legitimate reasons to own an AR-style rifle. Of course the people who insist it be banned will say that some other model of firearm can be used for all these purposes, and that is true. But for the most part these same people broadly oppose widespread gun ownership to begin with and their problems with the AR-15 are simply an issue of optics.

They will claim that no one needs 30 rounds for the purposes I mentioned above, but in that case they could propose magazine capacity restrictions, true many do, but they want both the mag ban AND the gun ban. They never really argue for a mag ban by itself.

They claim these guns are “high powered” or use various menacing sounding names for them, but there is nothing especially lethal about 5.56mm ammunition and many similar cartridges have been used ij many models of guns dating back to the 1890s

They’ll claim this model of gun “belongs on the battlefield” and thus it shouldn’t be owned, but nearly all popular firearm models began as military weapons. The popularity of bolt action rifles stems from when the US army replaced the Norwegian Krag-Jorgensen rifle with the Springfield rifle and directly sold the krags to the public. Even in the era of muskets men were expected to own a musket to participate in military drill. Do firearm culture in civilian life has long followed the trends in the military.
 
Republican-Conservatives filibuster obstructions and interpositions in the Senate against the American people.

Republican-Conservatives guns all over TX and many other states as Republican-Conservatives in Washington are perennial cold blooded enablers of the National Mass Murder Rampage against America and Americans in the homeland itself.
Total BS. Name all those filibusters you keep ranting about.
 
Had Trump not lost for reelection and were presently Potus Putin would still be in Ukraine no matter. To believe otherwise would be a huge delusion -- or lie.

And we know Trump would have continued to work toward the dream of Putin and Xi Jinping which is to separate US allies and strategic partners from the USA.

That is, to demolish NATO first and foremost. The negative impact to us on this would be the end of Taiwan followed by the end of Japan and all US allies in the Indo-Pacific Strategic Theater of Operations.

And the end of the USA. I'll not say what would happen to the Republican-Conservatives in the USA to prevent and stop it. I'll just say Republican-Conservatives have become what we fought against and crushed in their massive defeat.
Putin tries every president.
With Obama he took the Crimea. Obama peed down his leg.
With Trump he gassed the Syrians and attacked an American base in Syria. Trump bombed his airbase back to the stone ages and sent hundreds of his mercenaries' home in plastic bags.
With Biden he attacks Ukraine. Biden tells him thanks for giving Hunter millions of dollars.

Trump made NATO members step up to the table and pay their share.

What we are seeing now is feedback from the Democrat defund the police and support for lawlessness. The low lifes are highly emboldened now and the S will hit the fan this summer. When it happens, the cops are going to be cautious, and not fast reacting, and a lot of people are going to die.
 
Total BS. Name all those filibusters you keep ranting about.
The word 'filibuster' in the Senate is all that it takes to tank an item of legislation or don't you know.

Kills it in the legislative hopper of the Senate.

You've missed this reality mostly because it isn't a bomb going off somewhere which is the only way to get your full attention.
 
The word 'filibuster' in the Senate is all that it takes to tank an item of legislation or don't you know.

Kills it in the legislative hopper of the Senate.

You've missed this reality mostly because it isn't a bomb going off somewhere which is the only way to get your full attention.
Source. Or admit you are full of it.
 
What we are seeing now is feedback from the Democrat defund the police and support for lawlessness. The low lifes are highly emboldened now and the S will hit the fan this summer. When it happens, the cops are going to be cautious, and not fast reacting, and a lot of people are going to die.
You and the Grim Reaper are tight, I can tell.

And few could be more obvious in fact.

If Democrats are for defunding the police then Republican-Conservatives want to burn down the NRA.
 
Source. Or admit you are full of it.
Sorry but I'm not going to chase around search functions only to have my each and every source denied by you, rejected and thrown out.

You're going to have to be a gentleman and take my word for it.

So astonish me plse thx. I'd welcome it for sure.
 
Sorry but I'm not going to chase around search functions only to have my each and every source denied by you, rejected and thrown out.

You're going to have to be a gentleman and take my word for it.

So astonish me plse thx. I'd welcome it for sure.
So you are admitting you are full of it. No surprise.
 
Hey, you don't know what you don't know.

Nor do you know what I know.

All you know is what you know.
I know you are unable to back up what you post. That is why you have zero credibility.
 
I know you are unable to back up what you post. That is why you have zero credibility.
Find out for your grumpy self thx.

Cause I'm not your gofer.

If I had to source everything you demanded because you don't know I'd have to be exempted from dying.
 
Find out for your grumpy self thx.

Cause I'm not your gofer.

If I had to source everything you demanded because you don't know I'd have to be exempted from dying.
Here, I'll source it for you. I know you are averse to facts.
Hmm, seems like the evidence points to you being full of it.

 
There is nothing inherently more dangerous about an AR-15 then from any form of modern firearm. The AR-15 is an ideal weapon for many lawful uses.
Really? Tell me about muzzle velocity.
"The 9mm handgun is generally regarded as an effective weapon; its bullet travels at 1,200 feet per second and delivers a kinetic energy of 400 foot pounds. By comparison, the standard AR-15 bullet travels at 3,251 feet per second and delivers 1300 foot pounds."
 
Really? Tell me about muzzle velocity.
"The 9mm handgun is generally regarded as an effective weapon; its bullet travels at 1,200 feet per second and delivers a kinetic energy of 400 foot pounds. By comparison, the standard AR-15 bullet travels at 3,251 feet per second and delivers 1300 foot pounds."
You’re comparing a pistol with a center fire rifle, compare the 5.56 to a .308
 
Rifles aren't really that good for defensive purposes except in rare situations.
Rifles can be excellent for defensive purposes. Especially AR platforms which is why the police SWAT teams use them indoors.
Sawed off shotguns and pistols are the way to go for home protection.
Sawed off shotguns are only legal in certain circumstances
 
You’re comparing a pistol with a center fire rifle, compare the 5.56 to a .308
No, I'm comparing muzzle velocity. You stated, "There is nothing inherently more dangerous about an AR-15 then from any form of modern firearm."

I call bullshite.
 
When making your choice, consider the age that a human brain is mature enough to make proper decisions to one's best ability for understanding what's best for all...

Can't do that. Why?

Simply because we don't use that metric for any other issue of "legal adulthood" except "vices."

You can be drafted (or enlist) into the Military at 18.

You are tried as an adult at 18.

You are legally old enough to vote at 18.

You are legally old enough to get married without parental permission at 18 in every State except Nebraska (19), and Mississippi (21).

18 used to be old enough to drink until M.A.D.D. got involved and Congress used highway funding to force States to return it to 21.

However, if we truly wish to make that change, then Congress can raise the age for all ADULT rights to whatever.

But IMO if a "kid" can be drafted against their will, and forced to fight and risk death at 18?

Then IMO they are ADULTS at that age, and mommy (and every other SJW) is just going to have to let them be adults for everything else.
 
Here, I'll source it for you. I know you are averse to facts.
Hmm, seems like the evidence points to you being full of it.

The article in a minor conservative newspaper in Washington DC is short and all it has are summary declaratory statements and arbitrary pronouncements.

There's no supporting data. Instead there's only some Fox guy saying, "We did some digging." They also did some hanging of you guys out to dry.


So the point is not how many and by whom. Because as George Will notes in the WaPo....

"Post-1970 filibusters, however, are used to prevent debate. As McClintock says, “the mere threat of a filibuster suffices to kill a bill as the Senate shrugs and goes on to other business. "The promiscuous use of faux filibusters — requiring 60 votes to proceed with consideration of, or votes on, ordinary legislation — blurs the implicit constitutional principle that extraordinary majorities are required only for extraordinary matters, such as proposing constitutional amendments, overriding vetoes and ratifying treaties. The trivialization of filibusters — no longer requiring them to be strenuous and disruptive events — has deprived them of dignity."




You said in scrolling btw that "many people will die" this summer as Democrats advocate defunding the police. So advise us please of what the goal is of, shall we say, casualties. Y'know, your target number. Nationally of course.

Yet and however the thread and topic poll is what people think the legal age should be to purchase the military assault AR-15.

And as to defunding the police, no matter how you slice that it's still baloney.
 
No, I'm comparing muzzle velocity. You stated, "There is nothing inherently more dangerous about an AR-15 then from any form of modern firearm."

I call bullshite.
You compared foot pounds of energy, which you have no proven leads by necessity to increase in lethality, and if your argument is that every good which delivers a bullet with more then x foot pounds of energy should be banned then you’re banning all hunting legal rifles if the AR is too high.
 
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