[W:425]"I must read the entire report"

[Rogue Valley]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Why did Donald Trump appoint William Barr US Attorney General? Because Barr had already demonstrated a Mueller investigation bias.....

Barr authored memo last year ruling out obstruction of justice

 

[trixare4kids]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Actually Barr was very narrowly confirmed because he is a rabid partisan who've views on Mueller are well known and not to be trusted.

But Barr was confirmed by a Democratic process, all usual checks and balances were in place, so your point is moot.

 

[trixare4kids]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Why did Donald Trump appoint William Barr US Attorney General? Because Barr had already demonstrated a Mueller investigation bias.....

Barr authored memo last year ruling out obstruction of justice

Oh geeze, not this noise again.

See post #127 and get over it. All this stink over Barr is this, Barr is that, is a moot point.

 

[Born Free]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Why did Donald Trump appoint William Barr US Attorney General? Because Barr had already demonstrated a Mueller investigation bias.....

Barr authored memo last year ruling out obstruction of justice

Are you saying Barr lied and changed Mueller's report that said Trump colluded with the Russian to no collusion. And that Mueller and his 30 attorneys and 40 FBI agents know that Barr lied and changed Mueller's report and not one is going to leak or say a word that Barr lied.

Yes that is a question

 

[akyron]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Why did Donald Trump appoint William Barr US Attorney General?

Because the 3 partially sane democrats would vote for him.

 

[DarkWizard12]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

How about I just not let Trump's hand-picked stooge to summarize the Mueller report for me.

the 9/11 commission were handpicked stooges as well. At least Barr was confirmed by the senate.

 

[uptower]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Did you have to read "the enitire report" before accepting the findings of...

Or could you make a reasoned conclusion from summaries and news reports?

Not the whole thing, but a brief summary from one of the target's people that deploys exactly four partial sentences is not nearly enough.

Firstly the whole thing needs to be made public so interpretations can be fact checked. Then we can take the bits from various sources that give the best information or parsing. But if it's all out there no single source can claim ownership and the sole interpretation as AG Barr is doing now.

 

[Lutherf]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Mueller Report Exceeds 300 Pages, Raising Questions About Four-Page Summary



Mr. Barr's (a political appointee) 4 page selective summary just doesn't cut it for me. Truth be told, I'd read the entire 300+ pages if the opportunity presented itself.

With 2800 subpoenas, 500 search warrants, etc. I figure the rport should be thousands of pages, not merely hundreds. Would a 300 page summary from Mueller sate the bloodlust of the "resistance" any more than a 4 page summary from Barr? I really think not. No matter what comes of this we'll see Democrats continue to launch investigation after investigation. After all, their purpose is not to find the truth. It's to find a crime they can prosecute.

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Did you have to read "the enitire report" before accepting the findings of:

The Warren Commission?

The 9/11 Commission?

The Challenger disaster report?

The Watergate investigation?

The Whitewater investigation?

The Clinton impeachment for perjury?

Or could you make a reasoned conclusion from summaries and news reports?

Which one of those can you not go and read the entire report? Of course there will be parts redacted, Im sure but, you can read all of those right now. Will we ever get that with Muellers report?

 

[uptower]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

To this I would add that the Barr Summary was never meant to be a definitive answer or even a policy statement. They're trying simply to control the narrative. They know what's in the report, what other crimes or allegations have been uncovered, what has been handed off to other prosecutors and what's in the sealed indictments (remember no 'new' indictments doesn't necessarily mean more of trump's inner circle aren't in those already). They know there will be more charges, more investigations, more leaks and accusations coming out; more testimonies, turncoats and documentation.

So they're trying to get the first word in and control public opinion. To discredit any later information they already know is coming. remember a lie will travel around the world before the truth has its boots on. Well even if Trump can't, Barr sees the truth lacing up and he's gunning for the first lap.

Any more crimes won't lead to an indictment of the president - not with Barr shielding him (the job he was hired to do), but could well kick off impeachment articles. Controlling the public opinion controls some of the congressmen who will make the decision whether or not to go ahead with that. No matter what facts come out, later in many minds it will stick that 'Mueller exonerated Trump,' and any new development is a 'smear'.

They're playing the long game here Trump couldn't manage on his own. Barr has some brains. No spine, no moral fiber, but he has brains.

 

[Fledermaus]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Which one of those can you not go and read the entire report? Of course there will be parts redacted, Im sure but, you can read all of those right now. Will we ever get that with Muellers report?

Did you have to read "the enitire report" before accepting the findings or could you make a reasoned conclusion from summaries and news reports?

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Did you have to read "the enitire report" before accepting the findings or could you make a reasoned conclusion from summaries and news reports?

What summaries and what news reports? ANd why should we only go by summaries and news reports? History certainly isnt written by summaries and news reports.

 

[Mongidig]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

How about I just not let Trump's hand-picked stooge to summarize the Mueller report for me.

Barr has been a highly respected individual on both sides of the aisle at least up until the Meuller report.

 

[haymarket]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

No one fears the release of that report

So lets see you and the other Trumpkins stop defending the secreting of it.

 

[Mongidig]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

How about I just not let Trump's hand-picked stooge to summarize the Mueller report for me.

You ever hear of home court advantage. Deal with it?

 

[haymarket]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

But Barr was confirmed by a Democratic process, all usual checks and balances were in place, so your point is moot.

You do not know the difference between a capital D and a small d in discussing politics?

And there is a Grand Canyon difference between many objective sources having read and summarizing a lengthy report and what Barr is attempting to do. A Grand Canyon difference and the inability to see that amounts to willful ideological blindness.

 

[Fledermaus]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

What summaries and what news reports? ANd why should we only go by summaries and news reports? History certainly isnt written by summaries and news reports.

Did you have to read "the enitire report" before accepting the findings or could you make a reasoned conclusion from summaries and news reports?

 

[haymarket]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

You ever hear of home court advantage. Deal with it?

What do you mean by that reference?

And while you try to exilian that one, tell me why a rabid partisan for the right would start a thread under the thin ruse of pretending to ask questions and then rejecting the answers because they do not fit their one phony baloney dishonest intellectually bankrupt premise?

 

[Fledermaus]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

What do you mean by that reference?

And while you try to exilian that one, tell me why a rabid partisan for the right would start a thread under the thin ruse of pretending to ask questions and then rejecting the answers because they do not fit their one phony baloney dishonest intellectually bankrupt premise?

Every AG is appointed by the President.

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Did you have to read "the enitire report" before accepting the findings or could you make a reasoned conclusion from summaries and news reports?

The only honest answer that I can give is research all available information. To ignore the entire report would be stupid. To ignore bias in the media would be stupid. To ignore who gave the summaries would be stupid.

And we are talking about something that just happened in which the full report is not yet available. All of your examples are historical facts that we can research and look up. Watergate for example: The Watergate Files - The Watergate Trial: May 1972 - June 1973 - Overview

Why should we not read the full report to make a decision? Perhaps you made ignorant opinions based off of summaries and news reports but thats your thing not mine.

 

[Fledermaus]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

The only honest answer that I can give is research all available information. To ignore the entire report would be stupid. To ignore bias in the media would be stupid. To ignore who gave the summaries would be stupid.

And we are talking about something that just happened in which the full report is not yet available. All of your examples are historical facts that we can research and look up. Watergate for example: The Watergate Files - The Watergate Trial: May 1972 - June 1973 - Overview

Why should we not read the full report to make a decision? Perhaps you made ignorant opinions based off of summaries and news reports but thats your thing not mine.

Is that a yes or a no to the question asked?

I have said over and over again (and have been ignored over and over again) the report should be released. Try actually reading my posts.

 

[year2late]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

What Trump says and reality are rarely in the same room.

Have you read any of the reports listed?

Nope.

Like I said, the POTUS definitive statement about total exoneration does not match Barr's statement.

 

[haymarket]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Nope.

Like I said, the POTUS definitive statement about total exoneration does not match Barr's statement.

If this bait thread has proved anything it is the questions asked in the OP are equal of farm manure.

 

[Fledermaus]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

If this bait thread has proved anything it is the questions asked in the OP are equal of farm manure.

Courageously not quoting someone noted.

It appears a large number of folks don't have to read the entire report in order to draw logical conclusions.

 

[Fledermaus]

Re: "I must read the entire report"

Nope.

Like I said, the POTUS definitive statement about total exoneration does not match Barr's statement.

Trumps quote is irrelevant to this discussion.