[W:423]Ritterhouse just got a bump by a good judge

[EMNofSeattle]

So at least we know BLM wont attempt to firebomb the courthouse this time around.
Strangely though, people on twitter are still attempting to call Rittenhouse a white-supremacist gunmen, or some idiotic adage of that.

You still have people coming out of woodwork, throwing out treats of violence if he manages to get free of the murder charge.

They should keep Rittenhouse’s rifle ready for the acquittal

 

[LostinThought]

there were two people in America who would not have voted to convict that asshole, chauvin ... chauvin, and his mother. can't say i am certain about her

the circumstances in this trial are vastly different, other than both fomenting political contoversy
rittenhouse was a juvenile
he helped scrub graffiti off of walls while he was at the riot vicinity
he carried around a medic bag to help people who were injured
the perv he shot first was a child molester
the next fellow he shot he had never had an interaction with, until skateboard dude slamed him with his skateboard
and the last guy he shot was in the process of aiming his pistol at rittenhouse
self-defense across the board
at least one sympathetic soul will make it past voir dire and will vote to exonerate him
especially since we have a gun in the USA for every citizen. no way that jury will be packed with second amendment haters
rittenhouse, unlike chauvin, will walk

Given the amount of violence and threats that the Jury was exposed to. I'd have to agree with you.
No one would vote in favor of Chauvin, simply to save their own skin. Not to mention the political circus that surrounded the trial itself.

As for Rittenhouse. Threats are most definitely going to be pressed against anyone in the trial. And it's most likely that he'll be in for a hard time, even if he walks away from this mess a free man.

 

[Buckeyes85]

The fix was in for Chauvin starting with refusal to change venue which I feel should be a constitutional right of the defense

Rittenhouse is in a Trump county and the three people killed are white

The fix was in ? You mean the facts were in.

As to your venue issue, that is just plain silly. Why should a criminal defendant have a guaranteed choice of venue? And where exactly would that constitutionally provided choice of venue be? Does a black defendant who robs a rural farmer get to move his trial to the inner city?

 

[justabubba]

Given the amount of violence and threats that the Jury was exposed to. I'd have to agree with you.
No one would vote in favor of Chauvin, simply to save their own skin. Not to mention the political circus that surrounded the trial itself.

As for Rittenhouse. Threats are most definitely going to be pressed against anyone in the trial. And it's most likely that he'll be in for a hard time, even if he walks away from this mess a free man.

i am of the opinion that rittenhouse could ride this situation into a well-paying future if he finds the right agent upon his not guilty decision
the NRA needs a figurehead to resume picking the pockets of low-information second amendment supporters who could be made to see rittenhouse was the guy who fought their battle and won
putting that image out there would exploit a whole new generation of folks just waiting to be told what to think
the NRA really needs a guy like this right now

 

[jnug]

there were two people in America who would not have voted to convict that asshole, chauvin ... chauvin, and his mother. can't say i am certain about her

the circumstances in this trial are vastly different, other than both fomenting political contoversy
rittenhouse was a juvenile
he helped scrub graffiti off of walls while he was at the riot vicinity
he carried around a medic bag to help people who were injured
the perv he shot first was a child molester
the next fellow he shot he had never had an interaction with, until skateboard dude slamed him with his skateboard
and the last guy he shot was in the process of aiming his pistol at rittenhouse
self-defense across the board
at least one sympathetic soul will make it past voir dire and will vote to exonerate him
especially since we have a gun in the USA for every citizen. no way that jury will be packed with second amendment haters
rittenhouse, unlike chauvin, will walk

About half at least of this post has nothing to do with the upcoming trial. However I do think the Defense has a much easier job than the Prosecution especially with Judge Whack Job on the bench.

 

[jnug]

Given the amount of violence and threats that the Jury was exposed to. I'd have to agree with you.
No one would vote in favor of Chauvin, simply to save their own skin. Not to mention the political circus that surrounded the trial itself.

As for Rittenhouse. Threats are most definitely going to be pressed against anyone in the trial. And it's most likely that he'll be in for a hard time, even if he walks away from this mess a free man.

threats against the Chavin jury had nothing to do with the verdict. He was buried under the evidence.

 

[US&THEM]

threats against the Chavin jury had nothing to do with the verdict. He was buried under the evidence.

Chauvin was a POS and he was guilty.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

threats against the Chavin jury had nothing to do with the verdict. He was buried under the evidence.

That is factually incorrect because the evidence showed Chauvin not guilty

 

[RaleBulgarian]

yea, and i believe you will be found wrong as a result of successful self-defense argument

So far, your expressed beliefs have proven to be misguided and/or wrong.

A 17 year old with very limited experience handling firearms illegally obtains a deadly firearm and goes to a neighboring state where there are ongoing protests and vandalism following a recent police involved shooting.

Upon arriving in the neighboring state, 17 year old Rittenhouse stops at the home of his friend/accomplice in the illegal firearms purchase, picks up his friend and illegally obtained firearm and heads to the site of the ongoing protests, purportedly to protect a business at the request of it’s owner.

Rittenhouse’s friend stations himself on the roof of the business, while 17 year old Rittenhouse, a minor with very little firearms handling experience, and carrying his illegally obtained firearm in violation of WI law stations himself on the ground “protecting” the business.

A claim that is partially refuted by video of Rittenhouse walking around with his M&P 15 casually slung across his chest, wearing a homemade “medic kit” on his belt, asking groups of people engaged in conversation (not rioting, looting, or committing arson) if they need 1st aid, telling them that he is a trained EMT (a lie, of course).

Already proven by his own actions at this point to be severely lacking in judgment and driven by a pathologic need to “save people”, untrained in the safe handling of weapons (His friend/accomplice in the illegal straw man purchase, Dominick Black, told investigators that Rittenhouse’s shooting skills were “horrible”), with his loaded long gun, was the very definition of reckless endangerment from the moment he arrived at the protest site.

And I haven’t even gotten into Rittenhouse’s previous troubles.

 

[justabubba]

So far, your expressed beliefs have proven to be misguided and/or wrong.

A 17 year old with very limited experience handling firearms illegally obtains a deadly firearm and goes to a neighboring state where there are ongoing protests and vandalism following a recent police involved shooting.

Upon arriving in the neighboring state, 17 year old Rittenhouse stops at the home of his friend/accomplice in the illegal firearms purchase, picks up his friend and illegally obtained firearm and heads to the site of the ongoing protests, purportedly to protect a business at the request of it’s owner.

Rittenhouse’s friend stations himself on the roof of the business, while 17 year old Rittenhouse, a minor with very little firearms handling experience, and carrying his illegally obtained firearm in violation of WI law stations himself on the ground “protecting” the business.

A claim that is partially refuted by video of Rittenhouse walking around with his M&P 15 casually slung across his chest, wearing a homemade “medic kit” on his belt, asking groups of people engaged in conversation (not rioting, looting, or committing arson) if they need 1st aid, telling them that he is a trained EMT (a lie, of course).

Already proven by his own actions at this point to be severely lacking in judgment and driven by a pathologic need to “save people”, untrained in the safe handling of weapons (His friend/accomplice in the illegal straw man purchase, Dominick Black, told investigators that Rittenhouse’s shooting skills were “horrible”), with his loaded long gun, was the very definition of reckless endangerment from the moment he arrived at the protest site.

And I haven’t even gotten into Rittenhouse’s previous troubles.

save it for the trial. then i will again be able to laugh at your false prophecies

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Because they were actually in the midst of a riot and also committing arson... it's not exactly rocket science.

Forget “rocket science”, you lack even basic knowledge of the events.

None of those killed or injured by Rittenhouse were engaged in rioting, looting or arson at the time, or before, they came into contact with Rittenhouse.

Besides, the moment Rittenhouse was attacked. These people pretty much lost the right to be called victims.

Here, you have a point, IMO.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

save it for the trial. then i will again be able to laugh at your false prophecies

Says the guy who’s been proven wrong already.

 

[TurtleDude]

Funny how the Righties in this thread willing to toss off Rule of Law like its a plastic Tonka toy when one of their heroes simply trashes American Institutions including Rule of Law and the Republic itself are tickled pink at the notion that "beyond a reasonable doubt" will likely save "Hero Rittenhouse".

This is one screwed up country these days.

sort of like the Trump haters, gun banners, and all the other lefties who see KR as the "enemy" are willing to ignore "innocent until proven guilty"?

 

[TurtleDude]

i am of the opinion that rittenhouse could ride this situation into a well-paying future if he finds the right agent upon his not guilty decision
the NRA needs a figurehead to resume picking the pockets of low-information second amendment supporters who could be made to see rittenhouse was the guy who fought their battle and won
putting that image out there would exploit a whole new generation of folks just waiting to be told what to think
the NRA really needs a guy like this right now

it might be the people who are arguing in front of the Supreme court in the near future concerning New York's idiotic gun law

 

[uptower]

why should he not be free to go live the remainder of his life outside of prison when he is found 'not guilty' of murder due to a successful self-defense argument?

Sadly, he probably will get off like Zimmerman and OJ and others we know totally did that shit. But I don't believe people who commit such serious crimes should get 'murder or nothing'.

And mark me that little bastard will be back in court again one day - domestic abuse, threatening with a weapon, some of that shit for sure.

 

[uptower]

I believe there is sufficient evidence to convict Rittenhouse on the two counts of 1st degree reckless endangerment, and of course, possession of a dangerous weapon by a minor.

This would be suitable. Murder is too harsh, but he is not 'innocent' in the literal sense.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

The actions of the guys he tousled with certainly didn't help them and mean it is unlikely Rittenhouse will get slapped with Murder One. Fair enough.

But he shouldn't have been there in the first place, shouldn't have come armed, he was looking for a confrontation and it ended with him shooting three people, killing two.

There's no way he should be let off scot-free for that, no matter how much one sympathizes with his 'cause' or disagrees with that of his victims.

Stupidity and bad decisions are not against the law. Plenty to go around from Kyle to the rioters that attacked him. You have not provided any evidence to show Kyle was looking for a confrontation. Only that he constantly ran away from confrontations counter to what you've been saying. Not being procecuted for self defence doesn't mean he still needs needs to be punished for something he's been acquitted for, that's not how the law works.

 

[LostinThought]

i am of the opinion that rittenhouse could ride this situation into a well-paying future if he finds the right agent upon his not guilty decision
the NRA needs a figurehead to resume picking the pockets of low-information second amendment supporters who could be made to see rittenhouse was the guy who fought their battle and won
putting that image out there would exploit a whole new generation of folks just waiting to be told what to think
the NRA really needs a guy like this right now

Were it not for the near derogatory approach that you took, I'd probably agree with you.
These people that don't show any need to be told what to think.

 

[LostinThought]

threats against the Chavin jury had nothing to do with the verdict. He was buried under the evidence.

https://m.thebl.tv/us-news/alternat...al,home if they were unhappy with the verdict.

“I did not want to go through rioting and destruction again and I was concerned about people coming to my house if they were not happy with the verdict,”

Yes.. it was just the evidence...

 

[LostinThought]

Forget “rocket science”, you lack even basic knowledge of the events.

None of those killed or injured by Rittenhouse were engaged in rioting, looting or arson at the time, or before, they came into contact with Rittenhouse.

Here, you have a point, IMO.

So you can personally account for them up until the moment Rittenhouse showed up?

 

[Grim17]

Sadly, he probably will get off like Zimmerman and OJ and others we know totally did that shit.

You're half right. There was a mountain of evidence against OJ, so yes he was guilty.... Zimmerman however was not. All the evidence supported that he acted in self defense, so in his case the not guilty verdict was a just one.


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[LostinThought]

You're half right. There was a mountain of evidence against OJ, so yes he was guilty.... Zimmerman however was not. All the evidence supported that he acted in self defense, so in his case the not guilty verdict was a just one.


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This is just another instance of them seeing only what they want to see.
I hope Rittenhouse comes out of this okay. Maybe with a gun charge, but nothing associated with murder.

 

[uptower]

Stupidity and bad decisions are not against the law. Plenty to go around from Kyle to the rioters that attacked him. You have not provided any evidence to show Kyle was looking for a confrontation. Only that he constantly ran away from confrontations counter to what you've been saying. Not being procecuted for self defence doesn't mean he still needs needs to be punished for something he's been acquitted for, that's not how the law works.

Dude turned up with a gun. That’s seeking confrontation. Pick a fight, end up killing someone - that’s not self defence. An accident yes, but one he caused by his own poor judgement, negligence and aggression.

 

[ASHES]

Dude turned up with a gun. That’s seeking confrontation. Pick a fight, end up killing someone - that’s not self defence. An accident yes, but one he caused by his own poor judgement, negligence and aggression.

Grosskreutz also showed up with a gun. Rittenhouse didn't pick a fight with Rosenbaum, he ran away from him.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Dude turned up with a gun. That’s seeking confrontation. Pick a fight, end up killing someone - that’s not self defence. An accident yes, but one he caused by his own poor judgement, negligence and aggression.

You haven't shown ANY evidence he picked a fight with anyone, yet plenty of evidence he ran away from it and only shot in self defence once knocked to the ground and attacked.

In any court in the country, a handgun alone isn't enough to show intent, let alone he's seeking a confrontation.