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[W: #41] Migrants at Ice jail in Miami made to kneel to eat ‘like dogs’, report alleges

And we know you can trust Pedro to tell us the truth. The Guardian wouldn't publish lies.
Yes, I trust Donald Trump more than Pedro! That's why I'm gonna go chasing after cancer causing wind turbines, cat eating Haitians, and autism-causing vaccines- this very afternoon!

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Pedro? Racism much? So now Immigrants are liars because they are either immigrants or Latinos?
That was my first thought as well but the article does quote someone named Pedro. Now it's paywalled for me so I can't go back and grab the quote.
 

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Migrants at Ice jail in Miami made to kneel to eat ‘like dogs’, report alleges
Incident in which migrants were shackled with hands tied of one succession of alleged abuses at jails in Florida

Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to eat food from styrofoam plates “like dogs”, according to a report published on Monday into conditions at three overcrowded south Florida facilities.

The incident at the downtown federal detention center is one of a succession of alleged abuses at Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (Ice) operated jails in the state since January, chronicled by advocacy groups Human Rights Watch, Americans for Immigrant Justice, and Sanctuary of the South from interviews with detainees.

Dozens of men had been packed into a holding cell for hours, the report said, and denied lunch until about 7pm. They remained shackled with the food on chairs in front of them.

“We had to eat like animals,” one detainee named Pedro said.

Degrading treatment by guards is commonplace in all three jails, the groups say. At the Krome North service processing center in west Miami, female detainees were made to use toilets in full view of men being held there, and were denied access to gender-appropriate care, showers, or adequate food.

The jail was so far beyond capacity, some transferring detainees reported, that they were held for more than 24 hours in a bus in the parking lot. Men and women were confined together, and unshackled only when they needed to use the single toilet, which quickly became clogged.

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They should consider them lucky. At least they are not at alligator Alcatraz
 
That was my first thought as well but the article does quote someone named Pedro.
It also sounds like much of the problems are related to overcrowding not sadism. So if you libs are truly concerned for the migrants--which we know you are not--you would call for more facilities and a smoother extradition process to end the overcrowding issue. But you wont because you libs only complain, you dont offer solutions.
 
You idolize Trump. And Trump lies constantly about everything. Not so sure your judgement can be trusted on who is lying or not.
I dont generally trust the word of anyone unless they have built up a reputation for honesty. No leftist I am aware of has done that. Certainly none here.
 
The cruelty is the point
Americans are a vengeful civilization. They enjoy cruelty as long as it isn't geared towards them. We really need to put all the Mormons into a battlefield arena like the Coliseum and let them have a go at it.
 
I dont generally trust the word of anyone unless they have built up a reputation for honesty. No leftist I am aware of has done that. Certainly none here.

Here’s the truth: You’re okay with Trump’s lies because you believe Trump’s lies to be politically helpful.
 

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Migrants at Ice jail in Miami made to kneel to eat ‘like dogs’, report alleges
Incident in which migrants were shackled with hands tied of one succession of alleged abuses at jails in Florida

Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to eat food from styrofoam plates “like dogs”, according to a report published on Monday into conditions at three overcrowded south Florida facilities.

The incident at the downtown federal detention center is one of a succession of alleged abuses at Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (Ice) operated jails in the state since January, chronicled by advocacy groups Human Rights Watch, Americans for Immigrant Justice, and Sanctuary of the South from interviews with detainees.

Dozens of men had been packed into a holding cell for hours, the report said, and denied lunch until about 7pm. They remained shackled with the food on chairs in front of them.

“We had to eat like animals,” one detainee named Pedro said.

Degrading treatment by guards is commonplace in all three jails, the groups say. At the Krome North service processing center in west Miami, female detainees were made to use toilets in full view of men being held there, and were denied access to gender-appropriate care, showers, or adequate food.

The jail was so far beyond capacity, some transferring detainees reported, that they were held for more than 24 hours in a bus in the parking lot. Men and women were confined together, and unshackled only when they needed to use the single toilet, which quickly became clogged.

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They didn't have enough fun at Abu Graihb, I guess.
 
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Return to the topic please.
 
“In my work with the defendants (at the Nuremberg Trails 1945-1949) I was searching for the nature of evil and I now think I have come close to defining it. A lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the defendants, a genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow men. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy.”

Pritzker describes MAGA:

"...somewhere along the way in the last few years, our society has come to believe that weaponized cruelty is part of some well-thought out Master plan. Cruelty is seen by some as an adroit cudgel to gain power. Empathy and kindness are considered weak. Many important people look at the vulnerable only as rungs on a ladder to the top. I'm here to tell you that when someone's path through this world is marked with acts of cruelty, they have failed the first test of an advanced society."
 
It also sounds like much of the problems are related to overcrowding not sadism. So if you libs are truly concerned for the migrants--which we know you are not--you would call for more facilities and a smoother extradition process to end the overcrowding issue. But you wont because you libs only complain, you dont offer solutions.
Do you want me to list all the logical fallacies in your response or would rather just apologize for wasting my time with that drivel and we'll move on?
 

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Migrants at Ice jail in Miami made to kneel to eat ‘like dogs’, report alleges
Incident in which migrants were shackled with hands tied of one succession of alleged abuses at jails in Florida

Migrants at a Miami immigration jail were shackled with their hands tied behind their backs and made to kneel to eat food from styrofoam plates “like dogs”, according to a report published on Monday into conditions at three overcrowded south Florida facilities.

The incident at the downtown federal detention center is one of a succession of alleged abuses at Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (Ice) operated jails in the state since January, chronicled by advocacy groups Human Rights Watch, Americans for Immigrant Justice, and Sanctuary of the South from interviews with detainees.

Dozens of men had been packed into a holding cell for hours, the report said, and denied lunch until about 7pm. They remained shackled with the food on chairs in front of them.

“We had to eat like animals,” one detainee named Pedro said.

Degrading treatment by guards is commonplace in all three jails, the groups say. At the Krome North service processing center in west Miami, female detainees were made to use toilets in full view of men being held there, and were denied access to gender-appropriate care, showers, or adequate food.

The jail was so far beyond capacity, some transferring detainees reported, that they were held for more than 24 hours in a bus in the parking lot. Men and women were confined together, and unshackled only when they needed to use the single toilet, which quickly became clogged.

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Nobody should be supporting that shit. Those are human rights violations.
 
If true it should not be the least bit surprising. Trump has demonized these men to the point that many think of them as animals and treating them as such would come easy to them. After what we saw at Abu Ghraib it quite easy to beleive that these men are being abused by those who look down on them and suffer from their new found "power" over them.

I beleive it's true
 
Keep good records of who did what. Future governments might have some questions for the participants.
 
Pritzker describes MAGA:

"...somewhere along the way in the last few years, our society has come to believe that weaponized cruelty is part of some well-thought out Master plan. Cruelty is seen by some as an adroit cudgel to gain power. Empathy and kindness are considered weak. Many important people look at the vulnerable only as rungs on a ladder to the top. I'm here to tell you that when someone's path through this world is marked with acts of cruelty, they have failed the first test of an advanced society."
I think we tolerated a lot of their attacks on empathy over the years; on bleeding heart liberals, on political correctness, and, more recently, on being woke.

But I’ve become very alarmed at their approval of dehumanizing rhetoric by their leaders. President Bush 2 might have approved the use of torture against Guantanamo Bay inmates but he didn’t encourage general violence against Muslims. Trump, on the other hand, talks about “poisoning the blood of our country”, echoing some of the worst said by Hitler with startling accuracy.
 
The report is based on interviews with eleven currently and recently detained individuals, some of which took place at Krome and BTC; family members of seven detainees; and 14 immigration lawyers, as well as data analysis. Two of the facilities, Krome and BTC, are operated by private contractors under ICE oversight. On May 20, 2025 and again on June 11, 2025, Human Rights Watch sent letters to the heads of all three prison facilities, the acting director of ICE, the director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons, and the heads of the two companies managing Krome and BTC, with a summary of our findings and questions. At the time of publication, Human Rights Watch had only received one response from Akima Global Services, LLC (Akima), the company that runs Krome, stating “we cannot comment publicly on the specifics of our engagement.”

That is from the summary, from which the Guardian wrote the piece
No reporter actually put their name on any of this.....
Do i believe parts of this may be true? sure
When you have overcrowding in a facility, things are bound to happen

I dont have all the answers for this, but these people are undocumented....and most if not all will be deported

The only other answer is to send them to other facilities (prisons) and the treatment there would probably be worse.....or to deport without any hearings
 
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