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[W:4,590] Study Finds Face Masks Didn’t Slow Spread Of Covid-19

Paradoxical said:
Europe and America are two different places. In America, we have a very corrupt system where politicians have their hands out to every group imaginable, including BLM. There was a governor here who was thrown out of office because he raised car registration fees to ridiculous levels in the state's never-ending thirst for more revenue, much of which goes to teachers but of course also to the many other employees such as public defenders, prison guards, road workers, etc. He had a meeting with some union officials and demanded they donate a million dollars to the Democratic party and they did. This is how it works. unions are no friend of the Republicans and donate heavily to the left.

Here teachers work part-time (9months) for FULL-time pay. Not only that, what your salary doesn't show is that they have a Cadillac health plan at minimal cost, lavish time off for sickness and personal days, vacations, and retirement at age 55 if they want. The state of California gives the teachers an extra 20% a year for retirement which isn't included in the salary figure above. When you add in all the perks, vacation time, days off, and the fact that is nearly impossible to fire a teacher, they have one of the best jobs around.

Public schools need to be abolished. they are a cesspool of liberalism that donates to Democrats and call the shots on what they will do. THEY rule the parents instead of the other way around.
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Not one iota of cogent reasoning ....
 
Lafayette said:
Blah-blah-blah.

Not one iota of cogent reasoning ....
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OMG! I laid out the case perfectly against public schools here. Your response just proves how people get used to and LOVE big government because they can't think for themselves.
 
Paradoxical said:
Trump said "Hang Mike pence"? Here is what he said about someone ELSE saying that.

Asked if Trump was worried about Vice President Mike Pence’s safety during the Jan. 6 riot, Trump said, “I thought he was well-protected, and I had heard that he was in good shape.”

Fight like hell is a very common phrase that politicians use. Maxine Waters used it to encourage actual riots and the burning of buildings. Other Dems have used the phrase.

The storming was done by a handful of people. Others were allowed in by the guards. You know this. there are videos of the tour.

What does vaccine have to do with 1-6? You are all over the map as usual and wrong on everything. Unusual for a "doctor"

You claim to be a conservative but most of your postings are what a radical left-winger would post.
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Nope..the " peaceful protestors were" chanting "hang Mike pence."

They brought a gallows to trumps rally..

By the way..
You note that Trump said.." Mike was well protected"..
Why did he have to be protected?

You brought up US being like China.
In China you would be forcibly vaccinated..and jailed for the comments and attitudes you display openly in the us.
 
jaeger19 said:
Nope..the " peaceful protestors were" chanting "hang Mike pence."

They brought a gallows to trumps rally..

By the way..
You note that Trump said.." Mike was well protected"..
Why did he have to be protected?

You brought up US being like China.
In China you would be forcibly vaccinated..and jailed for the comments and attitudes you display openly in the us.
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A chant now is against the law?

PS. There is a guy who only walked into the Capitol building and they are going for life imprisonment. Tell me more about China.
 
Paradoxical said:
A chant now is against the law?

PS. There is a guy who only walked into the Capitol building and they are going for life imprisonment. Tell me more about China.
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Yeah.. a chant of hang Mike pence as you are breaking g down police barriers ..hitting police with objects..and breaking into the capital building doesn't seem.." peaceful"..
But then you think the us is authoritarian just like china..lol..
 
jaeger19 said:
Yeah.. a chant of hang Mike pence as you are breaking g down police barriers ..hitting police with objects..and breaking into the capital building doesn't seem.." peaceful"..
But then you think the us is authoritarian just like china..lol..
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You are mixing apples and oranges. You say a chant that wouldn't and couldn't be carried out is illegal and we are NOT like China? You don't know who the people were chanting that. They could have been kidding around way at the back of the crowd and joking. There is no evidence that anyone chanting that (probably just a few) broke into the Capitol building. You are claiming that those who broke in were the ones chanting it and the ones trying to find Pence with NO noose, and NO guns.

This is childish reasoning. How does someone hand anyone without a noose?
 
Paradoxical said:
You are mixing apples and oranges. You say a chant that wouldn't and couldn't be carried out is illegal and we are NOT like China? You don't know who the people were chanting that. They could have been kidding around way at the back of the crowd and joking. There is no evidence that anyone chanting that (probably just a few) broke into the Capitol building. You are claiming that those who broke in were the ones chanting it and the ones trying to find Pence with NO noose, and NO guns.

This is childish reasoning. How does someone hand anyone without a noose?
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Nope..not comparing apples to oranges.
In China. You would be in jail simply for the things you have been saying about the government.
And you would have been forced..physically forced to vaccinate and wear masks..and be quarantined.
What's childish is comparing the us to China claiming they are similar authoritarian states.


As far as 1/6.
www.nbcwashington.com

Noose Displayed at Capitol Insurrection in FBI's Custody

A noose displayed on a gallows outside the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 insurrection is in the custody of federal agents.
www.nbcwashington.com www.nbcwashington.com
 
jaeger19 said:
Nope..not comparing apples to oranges.
In China. You would be in jail simply for the things you have been saying about the government.
And you would have been forced..physically forced to vaccinate and wear masks..and be quarantined.
What's childish is comparing the us to China claiming they are similar authoritarian states.


As far as 1/6.
www.nbcwashington.com

Noose Displayed at Capitol Insurrection in FBI's Custody

A noose displayed on a gallows outside the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 insurrection is in the custody of federal agents.
www.nbcwashington.com www.nbcwashington.com
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In America, a WB has spilled the beans that they were investigating soccer moms who dared question the State. In America, they are wanting to give a person life for entering the Capitol building. In America they want Twitter to have fact-checkers like Wikipedia does. In America, they started a Disinformation board to go after people who don't go along with the "truths" of the state.....you know, like masks "work" like Wikipedia does. Have you seen the analogy of masks "work" like gates do?

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Paradoxical said:
In America, a WB has spilled the beans that they were investigating soccer moms who dared question the State. In America, they are wanting to give a person life for entering the Capitol building. In America they want Twitter to have fact-checkers like Wikipedia does. In America, they started a Disinformation board to go after people who don't go along with the "truths" of the state.....you know, like masks "work" like Wikipedia does. Have you seen the analogy of masks "work" like gates do?

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Yeah look..your conspiracy theory gobbledygook gook doesn't hold a candle to China's authoritarian state.
You are just being silly.
 
jaeger19 said:
Yeah look..your conspiracy theory gobbledygook gook doesn't hold a candle to China's authoritarian state.
You are just being silly.
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He gets an A for effort and has only been advised by Soros people for a year so far. Give him time. For a "conservative" you sure defend this worst president in history.
 
Paradoxical said:
He gets an A for effort and has only been advised by Soros people for a year so far. Give him time. For a "conservative" you sure defend this worst president in history.
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Seriously..you have no clue who the worst president in history was.
I value facts and truth..not ideology.
 
Paradoxical said:
The storming was done by a handful of people.
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From here: 2021 United States Capitol attack

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On January 6, 2021, a mob of 2,000–2,500 supporters of U.S. President Donald Trump attacked the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C. They sought to overturn his defeat in the 2020 presidential election by disrupting the joint session of Congress assembled to count electoral votes that would formalize President-elect Joe Biden's victory. The Capitol Complex was locked down and lawmakers and staff were evacuated as rioters assaulted law enforcement officers, vandalized property, and occupied the building for several hours.[32] Five people died either shortly before, during, or following the event: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes. Many people were injured, including 138 police officers. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months.
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It was done by a mob. A crazed mob.

Don't diminish its ugliness. For the first time in the history of the nation, the Capitol building was attacked and seven lost their lives.

The attack was not a minor event and a great shame that belittled the United States and its citizens ...
 
POST-SECONDARY SCHOOLING DEBT

Paradoxical said:
I laid out the case perfectly against public schools here. Your response just proves how people get used to and LOVE big government because they can't think for themselves.
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You did nothing of the kind. There is no case against public-schools.

There is a case against post-secondary level education that costs an arm-and-a-leg in the US.

I send my kids to university here in France for less than $1000 (in Euros) in tuition fees. When they come out, they are ready to embark upon a profitable living and need not waste years paying-off their university debt!

The manufacturing age has long since passed into American history - and what is left requires absolutely a post-secondary degree (unless you'd prefer to drive a cab for the rest of your life).

That degree is an absolute necessity and yet it is out-of-sight for a great many Americans because it is far too costly ... !
 
VySky said:
I have been saying this for over a year. Plenty of examples here at DP

Mask don’t work

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Study Finds Face Masks Didn’t Slow Spread Of Covid-19​

The first ecological study of state mask mandates and their use to include data from the winter case spike has found that widespread mask-wearing likely didn’t slow the spread of COVID-19.

The study, conducted by the University of Louisville using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, found that “80% of US states mandated masks during the COVID-19 pandemic,” but while “mandates induced greater mask compliance, [they] did not predict lower growth rates when community spread was low (minima) or high (maxima).” The study also found that “mask mandates and use are not associated with lower SARS-CoV-2 spread among US states.”

www.dailywire.com

Study Finds Face Masks Didn’t Slow Spread Of Covid-19

The first ecological study of state mask mandates and their use to include data from the winter case spike has found that widespread mask-wearing likely didn’t slow the spread of COVID-19.The study, conducted by the University of Louisville using data from the Centers for Disease Control and...
www.dailywire.com www.dailywire.com
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Of course it didn't.

It's like pretending a chain link fence will significantly slow down a handful of baking powder.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
Of course it didn't.

It's like pretending a chain link fence will significantly slow down a handful of baking powder.
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From the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control:

A new study by the WHO Regional Office for Europe and European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) published in Eurosurveillance estimates that 470,000 lives have been saved among those aged 60 years and over since the start of COVID-19 vaccination roll-out in 33 countries across the WHO European Region.
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Masks saves lives. Of course, if you don't believe that then do not wear one.

One more jerk lost wont hurt the economy ...
 
jaeger19 said:
Seriously..you have no clue who the worst president in history was.
I value facts and truth..not ideology.
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America does and they will remember come November.
 
Lafayette said:
From here: 2021 United States Capitol attack

Excerpt:



It was done by a mob. A crazed mob.

Don't diminish its ugliness. For the first time in the history of the nation, the Capitol building was attacked and seven lost their lives.

The attack was not a minor event and a great shame that belittled the United States and its citizens ...
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Wiki? Seriously? Look, I know the lefties are pushing that meme hard but it aint working.
 
Lafayette said:
POST-SECONDARY SCHOOLING DEBT



You did nothing of the kind. There is no case against public-schools.

There is a case against post-secondary level education that costs an arm-and-a-leg in the US.

I send my kids to university here in France for less than $1000 (in Euros) in tuition fees. When they come out, they are ready to embark upon a profitable living and need not waste years paying-off their university debt!

The manufacturing age has long since passed into American history - and what is left requires absolutely a post-secondary degree (unless you'd prefer to drive a cab for the rest of your life).

That degree is an absolute necessity and yet it is out-of-sight for a great many Americans because it is far too costly ... !
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Cry me a river about the unfairness of life.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
Of course it didn't.

It's like pretending a chain link fence will significantly slow down a handful of baking powder.
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You know that whole chainlink fence thing is bunk right?
 
jaeger19 said:
You know that whole chainlink fence thing is bunk right?
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No, it's not bunk. It's why the masks don't work. The spaces between the threads are too wide. An N95 mask has some decent effectiveness, but the cloth face coverings and surgical masks everyone wore (mostly improperly) did roughly nothing to slow the spread. Hence the study referred to in this thread.

But, by all means, demonstrate how a cloth face covering has been shown to slow the spread of covid19 virions....
 
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