[W:4,590] Study Finds Face Masks Didn’t Slow Spread Of Covid-19

[Paradoxical]

That's the fake news at work. They demonize everything trump. They make him seem evil even compare him to Hitler. This way the hatred goes beyond politics. Trump is not human he is evil a monster easy to hate and now his supporters are equally evil and should be eliminated.

This is why these libtards are so agitated all the time and why we coin the phrase Trump derangement syndrome.

All the good Trump did for this country vs all the bad Biden has done in just 4 months. Sad.

This was the main Propaganda tool of Joseph Goebbels.

 

[Daddyo]

Covid is the number one killer in the US. You can try to minimize that all you want by discarding the elderly as dispensable but the fact remains it's a great risk.

Where do you get my desire to discard the elderly as dispensable? My freaking parents are elderly. Get real man.

 

[CLAX1911]

That's the fake news at work. They demonize everything trump. They make him seem evil even compare him to Hitler. This way the hatred goes beyond politics. Trump is not human he is evil a monster easy to hate and now his supporters are equally evil and should be eliminated.

I disagree, it isn't hatred is fear. Trump United the Republican party in way that hasn't been seen since Reagan.

This is why these libtards are so agitated all the time and why we coin the phrase Trump derangement syndrome.

All the good Trump did for this country vs all the bad Biden has done in just 4 months. Sad.

uplifting. They are afraid because there is a very real threat.

 

[Daddyo]

Think about what you just posted.

Now be honest....Before 2020...Before Covid ...did you even think that during flu season if Americans wore masks ,flu cases would practically disappear.

I never gave it thought and I am sure there are many others who never gave it thought before ,either.

We know to sneeze or cough in our elbow. We know flu kills 30 to 60 thousand per year. To quote you guys......we know masks work because doctors wear them. So it begs the question of why?

Now that you know you can never stop wearing the mask OR you are an uncaring hypocrite who refuses to do your part to save lives. HAVE FUN!

 

[Paradoxical]

Not even close!

Maybe if you said an antivaxxer/antimasker going into an old folks home filled with unvaccinated elderly with massive comorbitities....then yes.

Comparing covid infection to a 2 ton mass of metal racing you is ridiculous. Covid only kills 1 in 56,000. And thats using death figures that I know are wrong. They are listing many deaths as covid even if death was from another cause. Still 1 in 56,000.

Fear is what sells and you liberals are Amazon.

The main propaganda weapons of the MSM, adopted by the leftists here are I this order:

Fear
Demonization
Guilt
Shame
Shunning
Then virtual assassination of opponents they cannot defeat.

 

[Daddyo]

Still sounds like BS. can you post it?

Go away man! I quoted it. Look it up yourself. Its everywhere.

You are just wasting my time now. Yes it sounds like bull shit. Because its so damning and so opposite his current position. He was advising trump but only trump gets crap over being weak on masks. You libs live sheltered lives yet have the balls to accuse us of being uninformed. Ridiculous.

And you can't possibly be that incompetent that you aren't capable of looking up Fauci’s quote yourself. I quoted it. The fact that you didn't know this already is telling.

 

[Paradoxical]

Where do you get my desire to discard the elderly as dispensable? My freaking parents are elderly. Get real man.

Pointing out facts is not heartless. Covid attacks PRIMARILY the old, the feeble, those with health issues and then those younger than 65 primarily those with one or more major pre-existing conditions. The young and healthy almost NEVER die from COVID.

The leftists need to STOP the frigging madness for crying out loud. Honor the truth.

 

[Daddyo]

The virus in not political and I will not play that game with you.

The dems and fauci made it political.

 

[Paradoxical]

Go away man! I quoted it. Look it up yourself. Its everywhere.

You are just wasting my time now. Yes it sounds like bull shit. Because its so damning and so opposite his current position. He was advising trump but only trump gets crap over being weak on masks. You libs live sheltered lives yet have the balls to accuse us of being uninformed. Ridiculous.

And you can't possibly be that incompetent that you aren't capable of looking up Fauci’s quote yourself. I quoted it. The fact that you didn't know this already is telling.

Have you seen the latest from Rand Paul about him hiding the Wuhan connection? That should lead to his immediate firing and incarceration but it won't.

 

[Daddyo]

You know, I always get in trouble when I lump any group together and assign beliefs to each member of the group. Personally, I am not for open borders. I think that people crossing the border illegally should all be deported back to where they came from unless they are legally applying for asylum. I know too many people who had to wait their turn to get a green card here while other non citizens are crossing illegally, essentially cutting in line. Nobody likes people who cut in line.
As for the covidiots who couldn't care less about protecting other citizens, why on earth should anyone care about them?

Masks forever for you buddy or you are the worst kind of hypocrite there is. Just remember that when you get caught like Pelosi exposing your fellow America's to sickness. It will expose you as a lying hypocrite who wears a mask for theater.

Enjoy your life looking like a muslim woman.

 

[Daddyo]

That was before we knew the virus could be spread by people who never showed any signs of being sick.

Then in late March early April science and the data proved that about 40 percent of people who spread Covid never got sick themselves.

It was like having thousands of Typhoid Marys running around spreading Covid.

Asymptomatic transmission doesn't change mask efficacy! It would have zero bearing on if a mask works or not. Fauci said they don't and gave reasons.

Please explain how Asymptomatic transmission causes masks that Fauci said only stop a droplet or two to suddenly stop more?

Ordinarily as things evolve changes are made to reflect the new discoveries. That is not the case with masks. They knew they don't stop the virus from passing thru. That hasn't changed. They knew masks trap virus and that hasn't changed. They knew it causes more hands to the face, bad with viruses, and that hasn't changed.

Its bad! The man lied to you! He's a political hack and guilty of perjury and funding the research that birthed this pandemic. Now check out his email chain. You won't see it on CNN lol. Emails from fauci suggesting that he knew.

 

[Daddyo]

Thanks, Rush Limbaugh.

With one hand tied behind my back JUST to make it fair.

Noted that you had zero rebuttal and only an attack......or in this case what you thought was an attack. Great honor to be compared to the GOAT.

 

[Daddyo]

How many time do we need to explain this to you.
If virus particles traveled alone you would be right. But none of the Covid virions do that. They all need to hitch a ride on an aerosol which is easily filtered by a good mask.

If you were right there would be no more covid. Masks mandates in place and in force and covid went nuts anyway.

If you were right then mask efficacy would be higher than 40 percent.

I won't take your word. You a doctor? An epidemiologist? I will go with the CDC the liberal holy grail for all things covid. They say 40 percent effective. So drops are getting through it would seem lol.

 

[Daddyo]

Masks were probably an important placebo for those easily frightened by covid.

They made me feel better in the very early stages when the virus was unknown. Once the stats started to come out it became clear that I was in a very low risk group. So I only wore a mask and worried for others in confined areas. Once the vaccine came out and all the old farts could get the vaccine i only wear it when forced.

Like today visiting my wife in the hospital. You gotta wear it when walking in and when staff are in the room. Sucked.

 

[Daddyo]

It's not a huge risk for most people in terms of likelihood of dying, but pretty much everyone has friends and family that are at very high risk due to covid. If you have covid and you socialize with them, you are putting their health at great risk. And even for people with a slim chance of dying, their is a much greater risk of hospitalization or some long term complication. And there's the risk of overloading our healthcare system which leads to shutdowns when the number of covid cases is not controlled. So yes, even if you are young and healthy there are risks even if you yourself are unlikely to die.

And prudent people addressed those concerns. My parents, both very old, wouldn't allow visitation from us kids.

 

[Ethel2]

Masks forever for you buddy or you are the worst kind of hypocrite there is. Just remember that when you get caught like Pelosi exposing your fellow America's to sickness. It will expose you as a lying hypocrite who wears a mask for theater.

Enjoy your life looking like a muslim woman.

I am vaccinated “buddy”. There is almost no chance that I will get particularly sick from Covid or give it to anyone else. If I do give it to someone else it would be to an unvaccinated covidiot-and I really don’t care about them.
If I am around kids under 12 I will do the responsible thing and mask up.

 

[noonereal]

Enjoy your life looking like a muslim woman.

This made me smile. Laugh.

You could not even dream of dating a women as beautiful as the Muslim women I have know.

LOL

You have no clue.

 

[Ethel2]

If you were right there would be no more covid. Masks mandates in place and in force and covid went nuts anyway.

If you were right then mask efficacy would be higher than 40 percent.

I won't take your word. You a doctor? An epidemiologist? I will go with the CDC the liberal holy grail for all things covid. They say 40 percent effective. So drops are getting through it would seem lol.

As a matter of fact I am a licensed doctor. I will be giving 12-15 year olds Covid shots next week.
You said you have signed death certificates-only doctors, NPs, and funeral directors casign those. Which are you? Or did you lie about that.

Infections persist for a variety of reasons, some of which are that the covidiots won’t wear masks even if there is a mandate; people don’t wear them properly; and masks don’t work 100% of the time, especially poor masks. Masks probably only reduce transmission by about 70%.
Like seatbelts which reduce injuries in auto accidents masks reduce the risk of infection to others.

 

[AGENT J]

The dems and fauci made it political.

 

[AJG]

And prudent people addressed those concerns. My parents, both very old, wouldn't allow visitation from us kids.

That's good! I just wanted to mention the other concerns because not everyone knows them. Covid is probably spread in large part by people who act imprudently because they're not aware of all the risks involved.

 

[Daddyo]

How many become infected per year?

Enough that doctor pay thru the nose for liability insurance.

 

[Paradoxical]

Asymptomatic transmission doesn't change mask efficacy! It would have zero bearing on if a mask works or not. Fauci said they don't and gave reasons.

Please explain how Asymptomatic transmission causes masks that Fauci said only stop a droplet or two to suddenly stop more?

Ordinarily as things evolve changes are made to reflect the new discoveries. That is not the case with masks. They knew they don't stop the virus from passing thru. That hasn't changed. They knew masks trap virus and that hasn't changed. They knew it causes more hands to the face, bad with viruses, and that hasn't changed.

Its bad! The man lied to you! He's a political hack and guilty of perjury and funding the research that birthed this pandemic. Now check out his email chain. You won't see it on CNN lol. Emails from fauci suggesting that he knew.

Fausti was against masks before he was for masks. Then he said two masks. Then even if you are vaccinated.

What he never said was how masks don't stop the flu virus from going through when the flu virus is the same size as the Covid virus.

What I don't understand is how these sheep believe a known liar.

 

[Daddyo]

The bottom line is that two year old children don't like being told what they have to do even if its good for them or for their family.

I don't much care if the covidiots here don't like it or if they don't think masks work. The ONLY thing that is important is that they follow local mandates and rules for proper behavior within businesses. They are in some instances REQUIRED to wear a mask. After that they can all go home and have a tantrum.

Just know that when given the option I will never wear a mask. No matter how many names you call me or how uncaring you claim I am. And I'm going to go somewhere that I'm supposed to wear a mask, without a mask until told to put it on, just as a protest to being called a covidiot.

Keep them coming and put more people in danger lol.

 

[Ethel2]

Just know that when given the option I will never wear a mask. No matter how many names you call me or how uncaring you claim I am. And I'm going to go somewhere that I'm supposed to wear a mask, without a mask until told to put it on, just as a protest to being called a covidiot.

Keep them coming and put more people in danger lol.

You are what you are.

How many death certificates have you signed again?

 

[AJG]

Horse crap! They admitted to counting all people who died with covid as dying from covid. The number is much less.

I'm assuming you're referring to the CDC's data which shows that 94% of those that died from covid had other conditions aside from covid listed on their death certificate? I believe what you're saying is actually a misunderstanding of their data:

While it’s true that in 6% of COVID-19-related deaths, COVID-19 was the only diagnosis listed on the death certificate, that’s only part of the picture.

“Many clinicians will list the physiologic process which caused death,” says Dr. Braunstein. “For example, 55,000 of the death certificates had ‘respiratory failure’ listed as cause of death—we know that this is one of the most common mechanisms by which COVID-19 leads to death. We also know that in over 160,000 of the 180,000-plus deaths caused by COVID-19 in the US, COVID-19 was one of the diagnoses that was listed on the death certificate, and was felt to be the trigger for mortality.”

The CDC has never hidden the fact that pre-existing health conditions can cause people to experience serious complications from COVID-19.

If you look beyond the 6%, you’ll learn that as of August 22, there were 161,392 death certificates that listed COVID-19 as a cause of death. And if you do the math, you’ll see that in 94% of deaths with COVID-19, other conditions are listed in addition to COVID-19, including chronic conditions like diabetes or hypertension as well as acute conditions that occurred as a result of COVID-19, such as pneumonia or respiratory failure.

People Think the CDC Said 94% of COVID-19 Deaths Were Actually Caused by Something Else—but That's Not Accurate at All

The CDC said 6% of people who died from COVID-19 did not have the disease on their death certificate. Find out why people on social media are misinterpreting the stat and what the facts are.

www.health.com

So the other causes listed on the death certificates were often pre-existing conditions which weren't the main trigger for death, or causes that happened as a direct result of covid, such as pneumonia or respiratory failure.

Also the flu is non existent this season! Impossible for covid to spread but flu not to spread. There are studies on the big 3 viruses covid, influenza, and rino. All beat the masks and flu was the fastest in cycle rate. Something isn't right here. Even with 10 million more flu shots there are plenty of hosts waiting for the bug to infect. At best the extra vaccinated for flu would reduce the infected not eliminate them.

In closing the flu is equally contagious and in the same way as covid. With all the masks, distancing, and hygiene covid is still spreading but flu is not. Thats not possible.

It is actually possible, and the reason behind that is the reproductive rates, or R0 for short. The R0 of a virus tells us on average how many people an infected person will pass on the virus to other people. When the R0 is less than 1, then overall cases will decline:

What Is R0? Gauging Contagious Infections

R0 indicates how contagious a disease is. Learn how it works and the R0 values for various diseases.

www.healthline.com

Above graph B shows the number of cases reported over time, and graph C shows the R0 over time. Notice how when R0 is below 1, reported number of cases decline over time. If the R0 value remains below 1 for a long enough period, covid could completely disappear.

What does this have to do with the flu? Well the flu also has an R0 value, and when the R0 value is above 1, then the number of case reported rises. During flu season, typically the R0 would be above 1 since that's when the flu spreads and cases increase. However, if the R0 hovers around 1 or less, then the number of cases won't increase. That's what happened this flu season. The number cases were low to begin with before flu season began as they usually are, and the reproductive rate wasn't high enough for the number of cases to increase.