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[W:32] Elon Musk says he’ll fix the government under Trump. His track record paints a different picture

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Elon Musk says he’ll fix the government under Trump. His track record paints a different picture

iu

10.22.24
Elon Musk is making some big promises while campaigning for former President Donald Trump. But his business record calls into question whether he can deliver. Musk and Trump have publicly discussed some kind of government role for the Tesla and SpaceX CEO if Trump wins the presidency. Trump on Fox News last week said Musk may serve as the “Secretary of Cost-Cutting,” a government agency that also doesn’t currently exist. Trump, in his interview with Musk in August and in subsequent public discussions about a possible government role for Musk, has praised the CEO for his ruthlessness with layoffs. When discussing what he might do for the government, Musk said in a Pittsburgh town hall Sunday that major cuts to government spending would be necessary. At X, Musk has made significant layoffs, slashing roughly 80% of the company’s staff. That has led to a janky, unstable product, as evidenced by his disastrous technology failures there. Musk has also eliminated X’s trust and safety teams, leading to an escalation in hate speech and unchecked misinformation — and an advertiser exodus from the platform. X is worth 80% less than what Musk bought it for in October 2022.

Regulations have bugged Musk for years, who has railed against what he has called unnecessary bureaucracy and red tape. What is different is Musk’s approach to skirting or bending of rules, which have at times led to disastrous results. At Tesla, Musk has pushed forward ambitiously in deploying “full self-driving” technology, despite multiple accidents and government warnings and investigations. America’s top safety regulator on Friday announced yet another investigation into Tesla after a fatal accident involving a pedestrian hit by a car using Tesla’s full self-driving features. And at SpaceX, skirting California government regulators has led to notoriously unhappy residents and lawsuits in a Texas town where the company set up shop to launch and test its massive rockets. Musk suggested offering ousted government employees two years’ severance, according to the Wall Street Journal, which attended several of Musk’s rallies for Trump. “The point is not to be cruel or to have people not be able to pay the mortgage,” Musk said Friday. But Musk at X was sued repeatedly for failing to make good on his promise to honor laid-off employees’ severance packages. Before Musk’s purchase of Twitter — now X — in 2022, the company’s severance plan dictated that employees who remained after the acquisition and were subsequently fired would take home up to six months of pay, plus one week of pay for each year they worked for the company. But the lawsuits against Musk and the company claim the company refused that payout.
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Musk is anti-union and anti-worker. Like Trump, Musk does not honor his contractural obligations. Musk is actively supporting Donald Trump because:

1) Trump has promised new tax cuts for the wealthy and Musk is ultra-wealthy.
2) Trump has promised new tax cuts for corporations. Musk owns numerous corporations. Among these are SpaceX, Tesla, and X (formally Twitter)
3) Trump has promisedf to significantly remove government regulations on corporations. This would increase corporate profits while increasing the dangers to the Americvan consumer.
4) Trump has said he would impose a significant tariff (200%) on Chinese products. This would remove Musk's biggest competitor in the field of electric vehicles. He could thus increase prices for his vehicles.
5) Trump has promised Musk a position in any new Trump administration.

www.newsweek.com

Elon Musk faces investigation calls from Republican DOJ veterans

Former Republican officials call for an investigation into Musk's America PAC cash rewards for registered voters who sign a petition.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
 
The goverment really needs smart innovative hardworking people like Musk. The guy is willing to tilt over the apple cart and do everything over. Our current goverment can't get out of it's own way. We need that kind of risk taking to break down the status quo.
 
The United States Government is in way way WAY too far with SpaceX and with Musk in general.
And the bizarre thing about it is, his engineers, his scientists, his technical staff are all generally first rate people for the most part...these products are THEIR ideas, not his.
He just knows to hire the best.

But when the CEO of this kind is leveraging their personal power to levels where it can exert undue influence on official policy, that's dangerous.
He is attempting to MAKE himself INTO "a large part OF the government" by simply annexing it.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Elon Musk says he’ll fix the government under Trump. His track record paints a different picture

iu



Musk is anti-union and anti-worker. Like Trump, Musk does not honor his contractural obligations. Musk is actively supporting Donald Trump because:

1) Trump has promised new tax cuts for the wealthy and Musk is ultra-wealthy.
2) Trump has promised new tax cuts for corporations. Musk owns numerous corporations. Among these are SpaceX, Tesla, and X (formally Twitter)
3) Trump has promisedf to significantly remove government regulations on corporations. This would increase corporate profits while increasing the dangers to the Americvan consumer.
4) Trump has said he would impose a significant tariff (200%) on Chinese products. This would remove Musk's biggest competitor in the field of electric vehicles. He could thus increase prices for his vehicles.
5) Trump has promised Musk a position in any new Trump administration.

www.newsweek.com

Elon Musk faces investigation calls from Republican DOJ veterans

Former Republican officials call for an investigation into Musk's America PAC cash rewards for registered voters who sign a petition.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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I mean he'll "fix" it alright....for himself and other billionaires.
 
This is not surprising.

Elon Musk’s Twist On Tech Libertarianism Is Blowing Up On Twitter​

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Musk also just created a new company, United States of America Inc.
A possible replacement of the current US government with Musk at the head of power?
www.forbesmiddleeast.com

Did Elon Musk Create A Mysterious Corporation Called ‘United States Of America Inc’?

While the company’s purpose is unknown, it shares its name with a widely debunked conspiracy theory, and follows Trump’s claim that Musk will lead a proposed government efficiency commission.
www.forbesmiddleeast.com www.forbesmiddleeast.com

Musk is a fan of Curtis Yarvin who preaches his radical corporate autocracy as a replacement to the current US
government.
 
Huge scandal. The Biden administration, Adam Schiff and Media Matters are involved.


 
Musk is looking to buy the government of America and if Trump wins he will sell it to him. Both men are transactional in nature and this will be of personal benefit to both of them and not the American people. This is a very dangerous partnership.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Elon Musk says he’ll fix the government under Trump. His track record paints a different picture

iu



Musk is anti-union and anti-worker. Like Trump, Musk does not honor his contractural obligations. Musk is actively supporting Donald Trump because:

1) Trump has promised new tax cuts for the wealthy and Musk is ultra-wealthy.
2) Trump has promised new tax cuts for corporations. Musk owns numerous corporations. Among these are SpaceX, Tesla, and X (formally Twitter)
3) Trump has promisedf to significantly remove government regulations on corporations. This would increase corporate profits while increasing the dangers to the Americvan consumer.
4) Trump has said he would impose a significant tariff (200%) on Chinese products. This would remove Musk's biggest competitor in the field of electric vehicles. He could thus increase prices for his vehicles.
5) Trump has promised Musk a position in any new Trump administration.

www.newsweek.com

Elon Musk faces investigation calls from Republican DOJ veterans

Former Republican officials call for an investigation into Musk's America PAC cash rewards for registered voters who sign a petition.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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Like he fixed twitter. 😆
 
Jezcoe said:
Imagine that a President Donald Trump appoints Musk to some bullshit government position... then any conversation that they have is "official"

Not great.
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Musk has had $ 15B dollars government contracts in the last 10 years. .....he is looking to maximize that and Trump has no doubt made promises.
 
dmpi said:
The goverment really needs smart innovative hardworking people like Musk. The guy is willing to tilt over the apple cart and do everything over. Our current goverment can't get out of it's own way. We need that kind of risk taking to break down the status quo.
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God bless you.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Elon Musk says he’ll fix the government under Trump. His track record paints a different picture

iu



Musk is anti-union and anti-worker. Like Trump, Musk does not honor his contractural obligations. Musk is actively supporting Donald Trump because:

1) Trump has promised new tax cuts for the wealthy and Musk is ultra-wealthy.
2) Trump has promised new tax cuts for corporations. Musk owns numerous corporations. Among these are SpaceX, Tesla, and X (formally Twitter)
3) Trump has promisedf to significantly remove government regulations on corporations. This would increase corporate profits while increasing the dangers to the Americvan consumer.
4) Trump has said he would impose a significant tariff (200%) on Chinese products. This would remove Musk's biggest competitor in the field of electric vehicles. He could thus increase prices for his vehicles.
5) Trump has promised Musk a position in any new Trump administration.

www.newsweek.com

Elon Musk faces investigation calls from Republican DOJ veterans

Former Republican officials call for an investigation into Musk's America PAC cash rewards for registered voters who sign a petition.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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Yeah, letting Elon Musk into your governmental affairs is the best example of letting the fox into the chicken coup that has ever been.

It sure would be comforting to get a show of hands from conservatives indicating they realize this...
 
Musk's employees at Telsa and X do not like the man.

He'll kneecap anyone and will not tolerate any organized labor.

And Trump thinks it's a plus that Musk will "lay them all off".
 
dmpi said:
The goverment really needs smart innovative hardworking people like Musk. The guy is willing to tilt over the apple cart and do everything over. Our current goverment can't get out of it's own way. We need that kind of risk taking to break down the status quo.
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Do you know how many apples get destroyed when you tip over an apple cart?

But even if I agree with you about your government not being able to get out of it's own way, Musk ain't the guy. As much as I dislike Trump, Musk is far more scary, because he's actually very smart. History teaches us that one should always be very concerned when they see a smart person getting dumb people worked up.
 
OlNate said:
Aaaand more stuff that nobody cares about, and has nothing to do with the thread topic. :)

We got a live one here....lol
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Democrats do love censorship under the guise of stopping misinformation. Why would the Biden administration be involved with that?

Musk us the subject of this thread.
 
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