[W#271][W:914] Charlie Kirk Reportedly Shot in Utah: Live Updates

[Ouroboros]

That’s bull.
He wasn’t battling “ lefty bigotry”.
When he spoke about secular Jews nor when he said people should be cautious when they see a black pilot , piloting their plane.

The assumption that Whites in the 21st century are as bigoted as those in the early 20th is a bigoted opinion, and is what informs all the current insistence from the Left that only Affirmative Action, not merit, can allow Blacks to advance.

 

[Ouroboros]

Out of context ...which you accused me of Wut?!

Not to mention how desperate you've become to pull that. I provided the links to posts and a thread. How's the "winning" going

You're still losing. Same old same old.

 

[Ouroboros]

So you don't agree with Kimmel that it was senseless?

As I've said twice before, I don't agree with Kimmel that it was senseless to the murderer. His trans lover said (paraphrasing) that TR was responding to Kirk's "hate." That's a stupid response but it's not senseless because it made sense to the assailant.

 

[Jagged]

The mother of Tyler Robinson, the suspect in Charlie Kirk'smurder, outlined how Robinson's political views had changed over the past year or so, shifting toward the left and “becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights,” according to court filings for the suspect, reported CNN.https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...life-and-family-dynamics-101758048027877.html

Moving to the left doesn't mean he was left. Just more left than he was previously.

 

[Jagged]

from the minuet after the Kirk shooting social media trolls were screaming....he was MAGA.
The VAST majority of RECENT killings and criminal violence in the USA comes from the left and has been coming from the left for a decade. It's undeniable.
MAGA had nothing to do with Charlie Kirk's assassination.

Almost no one was screaming he was maga.

 

[Jagged]

As I've said twice before, I don't agree with Kimmel that it was senseless to the murderer. His trans lover said (paraphrasing) that TR was responding to Kirk's "hate." That's a stupid response but it's not senseless because it made sense to the assailant.

Learn English. "Senseless gun violence" refers to the general publics' knowledge of a shooting, not the perpetrators'. It's a case where the general public doesn't see a reason or justification for a shooting. So clearly, Kimmel was not talking about it being senseless to Robinson.

 

[jaeger19]

The assumption that Whites in the 21st century are as bigoted as those in the early 20th is a bigoted opinion, and is what informs all the current insistence from the Left that only Affirmative Action, not merit, can allow Blacks to advance.

Oh Pooh. You MAGAs are such snowflakes.
No one is saying that ALL whites “ are as bigoted as those of early 20th century.

But SOME whites are and frankly there has been a resurgence of bigotry and really the ACCEPTANCE of bigotry that’s concerning.

For example , Charlie Kirk being comfortable enough to say “ you should be worried if you see a black pilot” .

Ir Hegseth talking about people being promoted by DEI when he has little qualifications for secretary of defense other than he was a vocal supporter of trump.

 

[Lursa]

You're still losing. Same old same old.

Imagining you won something...on the Internetz! What a pathetic pathetic line.

It explains a lot. Wow. That's pretty much all that will remain now....esp. since if you could have proven me wrong, you would have.

So you just "declare" a victory . Whatever gets you thru the day.

 

[Lursa]

Moving to the left doesn't mean he was left. Just more left than he was previously.

Pretty much what I wrote, based wholly off of what's been published. Not "speculation."

 

[Luce]

MSN

Tenured University of South Dakota Art Professor Reinstated After Being Fired Over Charlie Kirk Post​

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womp womp

 

[Questerr]

I did indeed give two examples. If you would like links, you can ask.

Amid the partisan recriminations after the [URL='http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47294.html']shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), one accusation from Democrats and liberals stood out: it’s Sarah Palin’s fault.[/url] Liberals referred time and again to Palin’s political action committee web page – since taken down – that had once posted a target list of Democrats who voted in favor of health care, one that literally put crosshairs over Giffords’ district.​

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“If Sarah Palin … does not repudiate her own part, however tangential, in amplifying violence and violent imagery in American politics, she must be dismissed from politics, she must be repudiated by the members of her party,” MSNBC’s liberal commentator Keith Olbermann said....​

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The Palin criticism started shortly after the shooting, when liberal blogger and Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas fired off a series of tweets citing the Palin website that targeted Giffords’ health reform vote. “Mission accomplished, Sarah Palin,” Kos tweeted of the website soon after word of the shooting broke.....​

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Liberal political consultant and blogger John Aravosis criticized Republican political consultant Patrick Ruffini for praising Sen. John McCain’s statement on the shooting. “Well, McCain’s running mate did put a rifle target on the woman, so not surprising McCain is forced to make nice,” Aravosis wrote...​

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Other Democrats and liberals expanded their criticism to inflammatory rhetoric of the tea party movement... New York Times columnist Paul Krugman weighed in shortly after the shooting, saying Republicans needed to be held accountable for their tone.....​

Etc. so on, and so forth. The shooter turned out to be a complete nutter who thought he was being oppressed by the existence of English Grammar, which did not at all stop the Left from continuing on this line of attack.

Shortly after the Oklahoma Federal building was bombed in 1995, President Clinton, with support from many media commentators, blamed the incendiary rhetoric of politically conservative talk-show hosts for instigating this terrorist act...​

Flashback: How Clinton exploited Oklahoma City for political gain.... In the days after Oklahoma City, Clinton and Morris devised a plan to use the bombing to discredit and outmaneuver the new Republican majority in Congress.​

Clinton was in deep political trouble in April 1995. Six months earlier, voters had resoundingly rejected Democrats in the 1994 mid-term elections, giving the GOP control of both House and Senate. Polls showed the public viewed Clinton as weak, incompetent and ineffective. House Speaker Newt Gingrich and his GOP forces seized the initiative on virtually every significant issue, while Clinton appeared to be politically dead. The worst moment may have come on April 18, the day before the bombing, when Clinton plaintively told reporters, “The president is still relevant here.”​

And then came the explosion at the Murrah Federal Building. In addition to seeing a criminal act and human loss, Clinton and Morris saw opportunity. If the White House could tie Gingrich, congressional Republicans and conservative voices like Rush Limbaugh to the attack, then Clinton might gain the edge in the fight against the GOP.....​

Etc. so on and so forth. The bomber turned out not to be a militia group, but an environmentalist nutter.



There are plenty of comparisons. For example, both are increasingly giving way to justifying violence against the other, but the Left is (currently and recently) worse about this than the Right is.

It's wild that you would lie that blatantly. Timothy McVey was a far right Neo-Nazi.

 

[Jagged]

Etc. so on and so forth. The bomber turned out not to be a militia group, but an environmentalist nutter.

None of your links say that. So how did you come up with that?

 

[nukem]

Almost no one was screaming he was maga.

denial is futile. We know what we see and hear.

 

[Jagged]

denial is futile. We know what we see and hear.

Maybe you see and hearing things.

Try links next time.

 

[Ƶ∅𝒹i͎αꞓ]

Almost no one was screaming he was maga.

No MAGA,

Mormon conservative yes. Though really just a speculation based on his immediate upbringing that would have been a rather natural take, and died immediately when new information was learned. Now it is MAGA's turn to speculate anything and everything to bridge him to liberal propaganda and not 4chan memes as evidence by his 4chan memes on the ****ing bullets.

 

[Jagged]

No MAGA,

Mormon conservative yes. Though really just a speculation based on his immediate upbringing that would have been a rather natural take, and died immediately when new information was learned. Now it is MAGA's turn to speculate anything and everything to bridge him to liberal propaganda and not 4chan memes as evidence by his 4chan memes on the ****ing bullets.

Exactly, and Groypers. But not maga. That's not to say there weren't a few lunatics out there pointing at maga, but almost no one was. That's why @nukem couldn't prove his claim.

 

[hecatmoggie]

and the hate continues to pour in from the left

Washington, D.C. police say they arrested a New Jersey man with hundreds of homemade explosives and a manifesto containing "significant animosity" toward Catholics, Jews, the U.S. Supreme Court and Immigration and Customs Enforcement outside a cathedral hours before it was supposed to host an annual event that some justices were expected to attend.

Man faces hate crime charges over 'hundred plus' explosives, threats outside cathedral ahead of SCOTUS event

Washington police allegedly found a man camped outside a cathedral with homemade explosives and writings showing animosity toward Catholics, Jews, and ICE officials.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Ouroboros]

Learn English. "Senseless gun violence" refers to the general publics' knowledge of a shooting, not the perpetrators'. It's a case where the general public doesn't see a reason or justification for a shooting. So clearly, Kimmel was not talking about it being senseless to Robinson.

Of course that's the complexion you want to put on it, as with Jimmy Bootlicker, because it deflects from his Leftie purpose. The many Mad Libs who cheered the killing also didn't think Kirk's death was senseless, so the Bootlicker lied about them too.

 

[Ouroboros]

Oh Pooh. You MAGAs are such snowflakes.
No one is saying that ALL whites “ are as bigoted as those of early 20th century.

But SOME whites are and frankly there has been a resurgence of bigotry and really the ACCEPTANCE of bigotry that’s concerning.

For example , Charlie Kirk being comfortable enough to say “ you should be worried if you see a black pilot” .

Ir Hegseth talking about people being promoted by DEI when he has little qualifications for secretary of defense other than he was a vocal supporter of trump.

Just keep misquoting Kirk in order to show your own bigotry, it's entertaining.

 

[Ouroboros]

Imagining you won something...on the Internetz! What a pathetic pathetic line.

It explains a lot. Wow. That's pretty much all that will remain now....esp. since if you could have proven me wrong, you would have.

So you just "declare" a victory . Whatever gets you thru the day.

If you're really happy to see me getting through the day, why do you need to keep denying my win?

 

[Jagged]

Of course that's the complexion you want to put on it, as with Jimmy Bootlicker, because it deflects from his Leftie purpose. The many Mad Libs who cheered the killing also didn't think Kirk's death was senseless, so the Bootlicker lied about them too.

Too bad you still can't define this supposed "leftie purpose."

Also too bad you can't show Kimmel was wrong when he called the shooting, "senseless gun violence."

 

[Jagged]

If you're really happy to see me getting through the day, why do you need to keep denying my win?

What did you win?

 

[Ouroboros]

Too bad you still can't define this supposed "leftie purpose."

Also too bad you can't show Kimmel was wrong when he called the shooting, "senseless gun violence."

(1) Already showed TR's purpose, to eliminate a prominent anti-trans voice. (2) And if it wasn't senseless to the shooter, it's still a convenient fiction to call it senseless.

 

[Ouroboros]

What did you win?

Same thing anyone wins here, bragging rights.

Not that defeating you guys is much to brag about.

 

[Jagged]

(1) Already showed TR's purpose, to eliminate a prominent anti-trans voice.

Showing Robinson's purpose failed to show he is a "leftie." Again, too bad.

(2) And if it wasn't senseless to the shooter, it's still a convenient fiction to call it senseless.

And again, your inability to comprehend the term, "senseless gun violence," applies to the general publics' lack of understanding the reason or justification for such violence, not the perpetrator, is your problem, no one else's.