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[W#271][W:914] Charlie Kirk Reportedly Shot in Utah: Live Updates

Pyrite said:
New York Times, a credible source.

Kirk's own words that the Leviticus passage is part of "God's perfect plan about sexual matters".
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Show us a statement where he said contemporary gays should be stoned.

In contrast to Kimmel, who said that the unvaccinated should not be treated in hospitals because they were taking resources from the noble Libs who were vaccinated-- even though the latter were still spreading the disease despite being given the jab. That too was not a "joke" on his part, but red meat to his salivating base.
 
Ouroboros said:
Show us a statement where he said contemporary gays should be stoned.

In contrast to Kimmel, who said that the unvaccinated should not be treated in hospitals because they were taking resources from the noble Libs who were vaccinated-- even though the latter were still spreading the disease despite being given the jab. That too was not a "joke" on his part, but red meat to his salivating base.
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You do realize that Kimmel is a comedian and political satirist, right?

You're always willing to water-down every stupid thing Donald Trump says, but you never extend the same latitude to anyone else.

Especially anyone in the center or the left-of-center. That's known as dissemination, hyperbole, and partisanship.
 
Paradoxical said:
Yes. When it is as rampant as the MSM does today, and they have been getting away with it for years. A comedy show is used to denigrate the president and Conservatives, and that is all the station does? The View never has on a conservative guest? This is a TV station engaging in electioneering through the use of venues that aren't labeled as news but continually put forward stories that are twisted and lies, such as Jimmy Kimmel, who made it seem that the shooter was a right-winger.

I think that this is what this is all about.

Let's say I'm a billionaire. I but up various stations and hire radical left-wingers to go after those I disagree with politically and call them comedy or entertainment.

Oh, WAIT! This is real life. It's not a "Let's say."
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Great. It’s called freedom my friend and it’s healthy. Critiquing government in America is not just a right, it’s a DUTY.

And by the way so what if jimmy kimmel said it was a right winger? So friggin what???
“ a conservative guest”? WTF?

Do you even THINK before you write?

Would you want Obama and the Obama administration to censor media they felt was politically biased? Is that the role of government?
 
Ouroboros said:
Only in Mad Lib land.

Mad Libs stink with the guilt of years of cancel culture, which is why they couldn't stand to let even one of their members be correctly labeled as a Lib.
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Ask Liz Cheney and mitt Romney about cancel culture.
Oh I forgot , that would require objective reasoning .
Never mind.
 
Ouroboros said:
Because he said that they were doing so falsely, implying that the shooter was Maga, for which there was no proof.
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Well no, he was pointing out they were doing so without any proof at that point.
 
Hamish Howl said:
I wouldn't want someone who hates the first amendment teaching kids.

I'm just silly that way.
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I wouldn't want someone who hates half of her class and their parents teaching kids. 🤷‍♀️

We also don't let the kids say whatever they want to say either.
 
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Plasmaball said:
Actually it mostly does. Are there limits? Yes but saying you are glad someone is dead is still protected free speech.
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Not from consequences at work.

Plasmaball said:
Getting fired over it from a private business is not the same as the governemt arresting you..
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? I never said they were. One of those is appropriate, the other isn't.

Plasmaball said:
This is why trumps freedom of speech was never violated on tweeter.
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And why people getting canned at their jobs for being total lunatic assholes on social media isn't a violation of free speech either.
 
jaeger19 said:
Great. It’s called freedom my friend and it’s healthy. Critiquing government in America is not just a right, it’s a DUTY.

And by the way so what if jimmy kimmel said it was a right winger? So friggin what???
“ a conservative guest”? WTF?

Do you even THINK before you write?

Would you want Obama and the Obama administration to censor media they felt was politically biased? Is that the role of government?
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See post #8036.
 
jaeger19 said:
Well no, he was pointing out they were doing so without any proof at that point.
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Your side (left wingers) are ready to jump when a white person shoots someone of color and immediately charge racism without a stitch of evidence and when someone who has a trans boyfriend and has spewed hatred kills someone it's, "Oh, we can't say that was the reason. "Love" was."
 
rahl said:
Why should anyone care about your imaginary friend and its opinion?
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Why do you feel it's necessary to denigrate other people's religious beliefs? Do you think the Constitution's guarantee of free religious exercise is just ornamentation?
 
Paradoxical said:
Your side (left wingers) are ready to jump when a white person shoots someone of color and immediately charge racism without a stitch of evidence and when someone who has a trans boyfriend and has spewed hatred kills someone it's, "Oh, we can't say that was the reason. "Love" was."
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Well generally as a conservative and a former leo I tend to side with the police.
However again that does nothing for the fact that right wingers were falling all over themselves to portray the killer as a liberal trans etc without any proof.

Frankly you will have to explain to me how it’s “ okay because but but but the left does it too”.
It’s seems to me it’s wrong when the left or the right jumps to conclusions on social media.

Do you agree. Or do you only care when the left does it?
 
AZRWinger said:
Why do you feel it's necessary to denigrate other people's religious beliefs? Do you think the Constitution's guarantee of free religious exercise is just ornamentation?
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I am non religious but Charlie Kirk rationally and reasonably and calmly had discussions with others about politics and religion. FWIW, I happen to believe that Christianity and Islam have many detrimental beliefs and flat out wrong, bordering on irrational such as miracles, resurrections, Adam and Eve, etc. But with Charlie Kirk, he wasn't "in your face". He was a sharp debater and a very close friend of mine didn't even know he was a Christian because he debated politics very skillfully.

He was a TRUE Christian and didn't pick and choose what was convenient for people to believe of the Old Testament or New Testament. This is/was my main problem with Christians where you point out bible verses to them, and they lie and say the verse doesn't mean what it says but COULD mean this or that, or the translation from Greek is wrong or that another verse countermands that. Charlie didn't play that game. He was against the trans culture which is now running amok and being forced down everyone's throats, and he proved that in many cases the individual is mentally imbalanced and that the suicide rate among them is off the charts. But he was talking about exposing children to that culture and giving them free sex changes at a time when they haven't reached the ability to reason.

Are we now to kill all Christians who believe in a literal bible interpretation?
 
Ouroboros said:
But by Monday there was real evidence that the shooter was a Leftie, so the reasonable early assumption by everyone but Mad Libs was that the shooter killed Kirk because Kirk's words offended his delicate Lib feelings. Kimmel didn't care about whatever facts were available to him; he cared about licking the boots of his Lib masters and finding some way, any way, to put the blame on his masters' enemies.
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<laughing>

You're literally calling "assumptions," "facts."

That bit of nonsense aside, what "facts" were available to Kimmel last Monday?
 
Ouroboros said:
I don't have to prove anything about Kimmel's beliefs. He told a lie that contradicted the available evidence, so that shows that the only thing he "believed" was "I better help my fellow Libs divert from this crisis that makes us look bad by association." His ham-fisted falsehood just made all the people he sought to protect look worse, again by association. Oh, except that he did manage to generate a new controversy to divert from the real one.
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<laughing>

You claim Kimmel lied but now assert you don't have to prove it. If you want your claims to be considered, you need be able to back your claims. If you can't, which appears to be the case, then they're dismissed as the baseless opinions they were meant to be. You make a claim, the burden to corroborate that claim is yours.
 
jaeger19 said:
wtf? So you want the government to curtail free speech?
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You had no complaints when the vegetable in chief was there and he used the FBI to do that. Remember, masks, pronouns, lockdowns, forced vaccines. It was perfectly fine when Jimmy Kimmel gloated about it and your side (liberals) denied a conservtaives rights.
 
jaeger19 said:
Well generally as a conservative and a former leo I tend to side with the police.
However again that does nothing for the fact that right wingers were falling all over themselves to portray the killer as a liberal trans etc without any proof.

Frankly you will have to explain to me how it’s “ okay because but but but the left does it too”.
It’s seems to me it’s wrong when the left or the right jumps to conclusions on social media.

Do you agree. Or do you only care when the left does it?
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No proof? I bet you think OJ was innocent too.
 
Paradoxical said:
Yes. When it is as rampant as the MSM does today, and they have been getting away with it for years. A comedy show is used to denigrate the president and Conservatives, and that is all the station does? The View never has on a conservative guest? This is a TV station engaging in electioneering through the use of venues that aren't labeled as news but continually put forward stories that are twisted and lies, such as Jimmy Kimmel, who made it seem that the shooter was a right-winger.

I think that this is what this is all about.

Let's say I'm a billionaire. I but up various stations and hire radical left-wingers to go after those I disagree with politically and call them comedy or entertainment.

Oh, WAIT! This is real life. It's not a "Let's say."
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I'm glad to see you're on board with the next Democratic administration shutting down all political shows on AM radio since they're virtually all conservative, and Fox, gone will be Hannity and all other conservative shows. Nice, all political commentary will be swept away.
 
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