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[W:241] A Question For Anti Choice

Liberal7360

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Why write laws that force a woman to nearly die and lose her fertility?

I'm not asking about your anti choice beliefs.

I'm asking why write laws that force a woman to nearly die and lose her fertility?

That's not pro life.

Why don't the anti choice laws include exceptions that don't force women to suffer, nearly die and lose her fertility?

Exception for her life isn't enough. It forces women to nearly die and are left infertile so she can never get pregnant again.

Why are you doing that to women?

Why not include an exceptions that prevent this from happening? That will put a stop to the suffering you are putting women through for the only reason that her pregnancy went wrong.

I honestly want to know. I have never understood this and no anti choice person has ever explained it to me when I've asked so I'm left to find the answer myself and the only one I have ever come up with that makes any sense is that it's not about "life." It's about inflicting as much harm and control as possible on women.

I don't want to believe that yet in all my years of asking that question, no anti choice person has ever given me a reply.

Maybe this time will be different.
 
Gordy327 said:
What insult? He seems to be asking hard questions which deserve an answer from those staunchly opposed to abortion.
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I didn't insult anyone. I was polite and didn't attack anyone.

The reply from the anti choice person is typical of the replies I've always gotten when I ask that question.

I expect more replies like that and would be very surprised if I ever get an answer to my question.
 
Gordy327 said:
What insult? He seems to be asking hard questions which deserve an answer from those staunchly opposed to abortion.
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Good grief, the entitlement. “We’re owed an answer!” No you’re not, any more than I’m owed an explanation of why you like abortion so much and don’t give me that crap about how nobody likes abortion. If that were true, you’d have, at least, some understanding of why we oppose it which none of you do.
 
Liberal7360 said:
I didn't insult anyone. I was polite and didn't attack anyone.
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I didn't see any insult either. So I wonder how asking questions can be viewed as an insult?
Liberal7360 said:
The reply from the anti choice person is typical of the replies I've always gotten when I ask that question.

I expect more replies like that and would be very surprised if I ever get an answer to my question.
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Which in itself says a lot.
 
Liberal7360 said:
I didn't insult anyone. I was polite and didn't attack anyone.

The reply from the anti choice person is typical of the replies I've always gotten when I ask that question.

I expect more replies like that and would be very surprised if I ever get an answer to my question.
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Right, the problem must always someone else.
 
X Factor said:
Good grief, the entitlement. “We’re owed an answer!” No you’re not, any more than I’m owed an explanation of why you like abortion so much and don’t give me that crap about how nobody likes abortion. If that were true, you’d have, at least, some understanding of why we oppose it which none of you do.
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That might be true if I was forcing you to get one but I'm not.
 
BirdinHand said:
What question was the insult, in your opinion?
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Calling someone “anti choice” is intended to inflame, just as if I called someone anti life. Hell choicers don’t even like to be called pro abortion even though it’s accurate.
 
X Factor said:
Good grief, the entitlement. “We’re owed an answer!” No you’re not, any more than I’m owed an explanation of why you like abortion so much and don’t give me that crap about how nobody likes abortion. If that were true, you’d have, at least, some understanding of why we oppose it which none of you do.
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Defensive much? If one is opposed to abortion, it's only fair to be questioned about it. You oppose abortion, but then take offense when questioned about it? That makes no sense. The evasiveness to such questions also speaks volumes in itself and does not lend any credibility to the opposition's position or rationality.
 
X Factor said:
Calling someone “anti choice” is intended to inflame, just as if I called someone anti life. Hell choicers don’t even like to be called pro abortion even though it’s accurate.
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No, it's not accurate. Pro choice does not equate with pro abortion. It's simply ignorant and/or disingenuous. If one is offended by "anti choice," then perhaps it hits close to home?
 
Gordy327 said:
Defensive much? If one is opposed to abortion, it's only fair to be questioned about it. You oppose abortion, but then take offense when questioned about it? That makes no sense. The evasiveness to such questions also speaks volumes in itself and does not lend any credibility to the opposition's position or rationality.
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It's the typical reply I get.

Anti choice people will never answer my question.

I've been asking that question since the 80s when they started their crusade against choice.
 
X Factor said:
Calling someone “anti choice” is intended to inflame, just as if I called someone anti life. Hell choicers don’t even like to be called pro abortion even though it’s accurate.
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Isn't that what they are? How can calling someone what they advocate for be considered inflammatory?

They are against women having the choice to obtain an abortion.

Pro-choice people aren't necessarily "pro-abortion" - they are advocating for women to have the CHOICE to have an abortion.
 
Liberal7360 said:
It's the typical reply I get.

Anti choice people will never answer my question.

I've been asking that question since the 80s when they started their crusade against choice.
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Any reply you do get is likely emotionally based and irrational. I have yet to see a logical and rational answer to your questions or why abortion should be restricted.
 
This really isn't about abortion.

This question is about the unnecessary and cruel fact that women are being forced to be about to die before a doctor can save their life. With the results being the woman is left infertile.

This is about doctors forcing women to nearly die when they could have prevented the whole thing when the miscarriage or life threatening condition first was found. Before she is forced to suffer for weeks until she is about to die then being left infertile.

This isn't about abortion.

This is about laws that were written without any protections for women that result in women suffering and losing their fertility.

They can write laws that prohibit abortions without forcing women to suffer, nearly die and lose her fertility.

But they don't do that. They specifically write laws that cause it.

And I want to know why.

It's only a matter of time before a woman dies.
 
X Factor said:
Why do you want unborn babies killed so much?
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I believe it is NO ONE else's business what medical decisions women make in regard to their bodies.

That decision rests solely with the woman and her medical provider.

There is zero chance that any politician, government entity, uninvolved party, etc. knows better about a woman's situation than the woman does.

Why do you think that the government, politicians or uninvolved persons should have a say about a woman's private medical decisions?
 
Gordy327 said:
Defensive much? If one is opposed to abortion, it's only fair to be questioned about it. You oppose abortion, but then take offense when questioned about it? That makes no sense. The evasiveness to such questions also speaks volumes in itself and does not lend any credibility to the opposition's position or rationality.
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Oh, I’ve long ago given up trying to explain my position to extreme pro abortionists. Pro lifers often make the mistake of thinking if we can show extremists that it’s a baby, of course it is, it would make some sort of difference. Nobody would support killing a baby, right? Turns out, extremists don’t give a shit.
 
FreeStorm84 said:
Oh here we go again. You are going to be told this for the zillionth time: the unborn are NOT babies.
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Only because it's true. It's funny how X Factor complains the term "anti choice" is inflammatory, but also uses emotionally manipulative/appealing and inaccurate terms like "unborn babies." It seems almost hypocritical. Or just willfully ignorant.
 
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