[W:233]Praise The Lord

[Logician Man]

Re: Praise The Lord

Go find somebody else to try to impress.

Christ is Risen! Your boy Muhammad is still in his grave, if not in Hell.

Just admit you don't know squat about the Qu'ran or Islam. Lying about it isn't helping your already failed argument at all. But thank you for the compliment. Seems like it is you who needs to do his homework. :lol:.....:thumbs:...p.s Muhummed is YOUR boy,not mine..I am non-religious. You and Muslims are both cut from the same cloth. The religions of Abraham. (fact )

 

[Logicman]

Re: Praise The Lord

Just admit you don't know squat about the Qu'ran or Islam. Lying about it isn't helping your already failed argument at all. But thank you for the compliment. Seems like it is you who needs to do his homework. :lol:.....:thumbs:

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me." - Jesus, John 14:6

Your boy Muhammad didn't make the cut. Go waste some more time on the rummy if you want, but he doesn't mean squat to me, and neither do any of your opinions that are contrary to Christ.

 

[Logician Man]

Re: Praise The Lord

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me." - Jesus, John 14:6

Your boy Muhammad didn't make the cut. Go waste some more time on the rummy if you want, but he doesn't mean squat to me, and neither do any of your opinions that are contrary to Christ.

Nope..You and Muslims are cut from the same cloth. Abrahamic religions. ( fact )

 

[soylentgreen]

Re: Praise The Lord

And yet I still never equated intelligence with anthropomorphism. But do carry on with your straw argument.


OM

No you did not , I did on what you said.

 

[Logician Man]

Re: Praise The Lord

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me." - Jesus, John 14:6

Your boy Muhammad didn't make the cut. Go waste some more time on the rummy if you want, but he doesn't mean squat to me, and neither do any of your opinions that are contrary to Christ.

If you have a problem with your sister religion and your Muslim brethren, take it up with them. I have no dog in your fight with your sister religion.

 

[Logicman]

Re: Praise The Lord

Nope..You and Muslims are cut from the same cloth. Abrahamic religions. ( fact )

John 3:36

 

[Logician Man]

Re: Praise The Lord

John 3:36

Still waiting for you to tell us with your vast knowledge of the Qu'ran why your sister religion Islam is B.S....

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: Praise The Lord

What created the universe?


OM

Can you show that universe was 'created' rather than either formed or was eternal? Show that it was 'created'

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: Praise The Lord

Go find somebody else to try to impress.

Christ is Risen! Your boy Muhammad is still in his grave, if not in Hell.

Let's see the evidence of that which does not rely on religious dogma, biased testimony, or wishful thinking.

 

[zyzygy]

Re: Praise The Lord

Let's see the evidence of that which does not rely on religious dogma, biased testimony, or wishful thinking.

Cue a picture of a book cover.

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: Praise The Lord

Cue a picture of a book cover.

That would fall under the category of 'wishful thinking'

 

[Omega Man]

Re: Praise The Lord

No you did not , I did on what you said.

But I in fact did not say what you said I said. You are waging a false argument, attributing words to me I never said, then knocking them down. Completely illogical.


OM

 

[Omega Man]

Re: Praise The Lord

Can you show that universe was 'created' rather than either formed or was eternal? Show that it was 'created'

I don't know for certain whether or not it was created.


OM

 

[soylentgreen]

Re: Praise The Lord

But I in fact did not say what you said I said. You are waging a false argument, attributing words to me I never said, then knocking them down. Completely illogical.


OM

You implied as such. Begging that the exact words did not leave your mouth is nothing more than trying to have your cake and eat it too.

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: Praise The Lord

I don't know for certain whether or not it was created.


OM

Then, why make arguments based on it 'being created'?

 

[Logicman]

Re: Praise The Lord

Let's see the evidence of that which does not rely on religious dogma, biased testimony, or wishful thinking.

Whistle for it.

You are the place where legitimate evidences for Christ and Christianity automatically gets kicked to the curb.

 

[Omega Man]

Re: Praise The Lord

You implied as such. Begging that the exact words did not leave your mouth is nothing more than trying to have your cake and eat it too.

So now it's "implied". Meaning you chose to interpret subjectively, and then fault my argument based upon *a feeling you got* - rather than what I actually said and meant. Okay then.


OM

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: Praise The Lord

Whistle for it.

You are the place where legitimate evidences for Christ and Christianity automatically gets kicked to the curb.

That would be the exact answer I would expect if there is no objective or tangible evidence. This would be known as 'an evasion', and the conclusion that can be drawn is that the claim can not be backed up.

 

[Omega Man]

Re: Praise The Lord

Then, why make arguments based on it 'being created'?

I didn't say it was created. I merely addressed the possibility. It's possible it wasn't as well; I really don't know for certain.


OM

 

[gfm7175]

Re: Praise The Lord

What created the universe?


OM

Can you show that universe was 'created' rather than either formed or was eternal? Show that it was 'created'

RAMOSS is correct in that the universe might not have been created. It very well could be eternal, and OM agrees with that. I used to argue many months ago that the universe had to have had a beginning, but my past arguments in that area were wrong, and I've changed my position on that.

There is no way to 'show' (prove) religious matters such as any "beginning of the universe" theory. Religion is an open functional system, and as such, it does not and cannot make use of proofs. It instead makes use of supporting evidence.

 

[gfm7175]

Re: Praise The Lord

But I in fact did not say what you said I said. You are waging a false argument, attributing words to me I never said, then knocking them down. Completely illogical.


OM

He is doing what is known as the Strawman Argument Fallacy. It is an error of logic. He is known around these parts for gravitating towards this particular logical fallacy. He also makes regular use of the Argument of the Stone Fallacy, which is claiming an argument to be absurd/wrong/silly/etc. without providing any counterargument.

 

[Omega Man]

Re: Praise The Lord

RAMOSS is correct in that the universe might not have been created. It very well could be eternal, and OM agrees with that. I used to argue many months ago that the universe had to have had a beginning, but my past arguments in that area were wrong, and I've changed my position on that.

There is no way to 'show' (prove) religious matters such as any "beginning of the universe" theory. Religion is an open functional system, and as such, it does not and cannot make use of proofs. It instead makes use of supporting evidence.

Ah, I see where RAMOSS is coming from. I don't think I worded my inquiry the way I intended.


OM

 

[Omega Man]

Re: Praise The Lord

He is doing what is known as the Strawman Argument Fallacy. It is an error of logic. He is known around these parts for gravitating towards this particular logical fallacy. He also makes regular use of the Argument of the Stone Fallacy, which is claiming an argument to be absurd/wrong/silly/etc. without providing any counterargument.

I have indeed noticed that with him. Those are careworn, ineffective tactics.


OM

 

[<alt>doxygen]

Re: Praise The Lord

If one believes in Providence, then all things point to God.
And the fact is no one knows why one person's cancer is in remission and another's not.

If it's good, Praise the Lord; if it's bad, ?, but the "Lord" never gets any blame.

 

[RAMOSS]

Re: Praise The Lord

I have indeed noticed that with him. Those are careworn, ineffective tactics.


OM

It could be that you indeed did not word your argument precisely, because I was responding to your words...