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[W:2270] Does a Gun Make Your Home Safer?

Rich2018 said:
Even juvenile burglars who offer no threat to your life ?
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You make your home safe for juvenile burglars? Do you post a sign outside, advising them of that situation?
 
Bum said:
My guns make my house VERY safe.....for criminals and home invaders, not so much. 😉
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You're the kind of guy who's going to make a mistake one day...

Your guns aren't the first thing you should turn to.
 
Rich2018 said:
You're the kind of guy who's going to make a mistake one day...

Your guns aren't the first thing you should turn to.
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What should the first thing he should turn to in the event of a home invasion?
 
Rucker61 said:
What should the first thing he should turn to in the event of a home invasion?
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Your brain, to determine it actually ***IS*** a home invasion

Or it ***IS*** a burglar that presents a threat to your life, and not some adolescent looking for spare cash and food.
 
Rich2018 said:
Your brain, to determine it actually ***IS*** a home invasion

Or it ***IS*** a burglar that presents a threat to your life, and not some adolescent looking for spare cash and food.
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Or the guy from Publisher's Clearinghouse with a million dollar check.

Rather ridiculous attempt at rebuttal, Rich.
 
RF667799 said:
Or the guy from Publisher's Clearinghouse with a million dollar check.

Rather ridiculous attempt at rebuttal, Rich.
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He is getting annoyed that I will not play his "what if" game , and keeps quoting my posts to try and get a response...ignore him, and eventually he fades into the woodwork.
 
Bum said:
He is getting annoyed that I will not play his "what if" game , and keeps quoting my posts to try and get a response...ignore him, and eventually he fades into the woodwork.
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I keep hoping against hop that ignoring a certain poster will make him go away.
 
Bum said:
He is getting annoyed that I will not play his "what if" game , and keeps quoting my posts to try and get a response...ignore him, and eventually he fades into the woodwork.
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He claims he ignores me, but obviously doesn't. I don't ignore his posts, because they're too easy.
 
Rich2018 said:
You're the kind of guy who's going to make a mistake one day...

Your guns aren't the first thing you should turn to.
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statistically, he is less likely to make a mistake, then you are to be brutalized by a home invader
 
Rucker61 said:
"Thats how these things ALWAYS go down"

Define "how".

Define "these things". I presume that "ALWAYS" means "no exceptions".

The denominator that you're ignoring is 100 million gun owners x 365 days a year for not committing mass shootings. So put your number of madmen for any particular year over 36.5 billion and tell us what that ratio is.
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Dont forget that there are now an estimated 10 million or more NEW gun owners since covid.......
 
Rich2018 said:
What "statistics" ?

And doesn't that assume that all armed homeowners display equal behavioral tendencies ?
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doesnt the anti gun argument assume the same? when gun banners or restrictionists claim if you have a gun you are more likely to do this or that?
 
Rich2018 said:
Still waiting for those statistics Btw

Yes, having a gun actually makes your home less safe to live in.

But the gun control lobby admits that for many (the great majority in fact) their guns will never be abused. However it's the minority we fear.
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^^^Rich vs Rich
 
TurtleDude said:
doesnt the anti gun argument assume the same? when gun banners or restrictionists claim if you have a gun you are more likely to do this or that?
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In a way

But the GC lobby admits that the vast majority of gun owners will never abuse their guns

However thee isn't a way to disarm the ones that will and leave those who won't unaffected.
 
Rich2018 said:
In a way

But the GC lobby admits that the vast majority of gun owners will never abuse their guns

However thee isn't a way to disarm the ones that will and leave those who won't unaffected.
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If you admit that, then it's worthless quoting statistics and pretending they're universally applicable. Tell all your friends.
 
mrjurrs said:
Ask Amir Locke...
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From the very beginning, this thread was based on an idea that these guns in the home "statistics" are the be all-end all for all gun owners. Not taken into consideration is: A. Where the home is located and the crime statistics in that area. B. Does the homeowner have a criminal history. C. Does the homeowner have criminal acquaintances. D. If there is a couple in the home is their relationship healthy and loving. E. Are there kids in the home, and are any firearms completely out of their reach or have they been taught firearms safety? There are all sorts of mitigating circumstances that CAN increase the chances a firearm can result in the death of someone in the house. But for most of us gun owners who dont have troubled lives or troubled kids, and are responsible, that will never happen.
 
Maidenrules29 said:
From the very beginning, this thread was based on an idea that these guns in the home "statistics" are the be all-end all for all gun owners. Not taken into consideration is: A. Where the home is located and the crime statistics in that area. B. Does the homeowner have a criminal history. C. Does the homeowner have criminal acquaintances. D. If there is a couple in the home is their relationship healthy and loving. E. Are there kids in the home, and are any firearms completely out of their reach or have they been taught firearms safety? There are all sorts of mitigating circumstances that CAN increase the chances a firearm can result in the death of someone in the house. But for most of us gun owners who dont have troubled lives or troubled kids, and are responsible, that will never happen.
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Plus some armed home owners will turn to their guns as a first resort.
 
Maidenrules29 said:
From the very beginning, this thread was based on an idea that these guns in the home "statistics" are the be all-end all for all gun owners. Not taken into consideration is: A. Where the home is located and the crime statistics in that area. B. Does the homeowner have a criminal history. C. Does the homeowner have criminal acquaintances. D. If there is a couple in the home is their relationship healthy and loving. E. Are there kids in the home, and are any firearms completely out of their reach or have they been taught firearms safety? There are all sorts of mitigating circumstances that CAN increase the chances a firearm can result in the death of someone in the house. But for most of us gun owners who dont have troubled lives or troubled kids, and are responsible, that will never happen.
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That doesn't change the fact that having firearms in your house increases your odds of dying by gunshot.

Most gun owners that commit suicide probably don't have suicide on their mind when they buy the weapon.
 
Chillfolks said:
Safe and safer are relative to the individual and can be different from person to person, so it’s up to each individual to determine what is safe for themselves.
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Of course it is, just that people don't make the best decisions for themselves

And that wouldn't bother me, but those poor decisions adversely affect others too.
 
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mrjurrs said:
That doesn't change the fact that having firearms in your house increases your odds of dying by gunshot.
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It increases the odds for SOME. Not for the responsible gun owners and non criminals and friends of criminals....... .
 
Rich2018 said:
All gun owners are "responsible" until they have an "accident".
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This is such a stupid thing to say.

It's worth as much as saying "no Brit expat is a child molester until they are".
 
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