Nor am I arguing that anyone is trying to protect themselves by being stupid with a gun. The argument is about storing a gun. Tell me, are you in the habit of locking your gun in a safe box every time you need a gun?
Lie number one-we keep guns for defensive use because "crime is so rampant you can never put your gun down"
You really are a poor debater. I suggest you look up what an appeal to authority fallacy argument is. because that is what you are doing now.
I have no need to lock my home defensive weapons in a box. Now I do keep almost every firearm I own in safes but not the ones I keep for home defense. sitting right next to my desk is a SIG MCX semi automatic rifle with a flashlight on it and four fully loaded 30 round LANCER magazines stacked next to it. downstairs, in my bedroom, I have a CZ handgun and a FAXON arms 9mm AR 15 / not locked up either. I don't have any children in my home and we have a state of the art alarm system with the PD less than 4 minutes away
I am destroying your dishonest argument. And I argue honestly, I don't engage in the sort of nonsense your posts do where you are hiding behind arguments about "safety" when we all can see what your real complaint about American gun rights is
Then I guess we're justified in keeping our firearms handy. Thanks.
They dont have to be prevalent. How prevalent are drownings, house fires, child kidnappings? About the same or more. And yet, people take precautions for all those things.
I see the data and the incidents in the media. I assess my personal risks and circumstances...are you saying I shouldnt have the right to do so?
Of course *I* do...you dont seem to. You claimed that my house gun is unsafe because it's sitting ready on my nightstand shelf. It's not...it's perfectly safe for the only one that matters: me.
That is a ridiculous response. Guns are not toys that anyone can use as they please. They are tools that can be lethal in hands of stupidity. And that is what not following safety protocols with a gun is , stupidity.
Yet you brought up my country, not me. Of course you doubt. That is all you can do. Attack the player because you lack even one good response to the actual argument.
Statistics don't apply to individuals.
you pretend that your silly arguments about a subject you clearly know nothing of, are telling. I am laughing at how desperate your arguments are as you attempt to attack our second amendment rights obliquely. You are in no position to tell our citizens how they should store their firearms since you haven't a clue of each person's environment
Again you demonstrate just how desperate you are to change the subject. The argument I need to remind you is about storage of guns, not using a gun.
So really all you have is a belief in your own paranoid fantasies about being attacked.
Never wrote otherwise. There are consequences...never denied that. People have to weigh them.
Dont project lies on me. That's just you resorting to attempts at insult instead of discussion.
Now that's a safety 'feature?' That's not a feature. Look at you with a failed attempt at moving the goal posts.
You just appealed to your own authority. That apparently is all you have . Again you debate your case poorly
again, unless you know each person's environment, your harping about safe storage is WORTHLESS
your debating tactics suck because you cannot even honestly admit what your real positions are. we all wonder why your posts fixate on "storage" when accidental gun injuries are decreasing each year. it really is a non-issue
Are you justified. Can you provide a link to support that or should we just accept your word for it?Then I guess we're justified in keeping our firearms handy. Thanks.
They dont have to be prevalent. How prevalent are drownings, house fires, child kidnappings? About the same or more. And yet, people take precautions for all those things.
It's called being prudent, being prepared. Each person/family decides for themselves, based on their risks and circumstances. What kind of world do you live in that finds that kind of personal liberty and respect wrong?
I see the data and the incidents in the media. I assess my personal risks and circumstances...are you saying I shouldnt have the right to do so?
Of course *I* do...you dont seem to. You claimed that my house gun is unsafe because it's sitting ready on my nightstand shelf. It's not...it's perfectly safe for the only one that matters: me.
And I follow the instructions for use in the manual, it's not a Bible you know, however you pretend it is to make one, silly point that is not remotely black and white. Why am I wrong when I follow the safety recommendations in the 'instructions for use?'
Your argument fails
where has she ever even hinted she is stupid with a gun (whatever that means)? a loaded gun is never safe? what absolutely idiotic bullshit.
Unless you are arguing that america is a criminal paradise then you do not have a case.
wrong, I am arguing that free people have the right to decide what is best for their own safety and they need not pay heed to the silly nonsense coming from foreigners who haven't a clue about these gun owners' individual situations
By the very fact that she leaves a loaded gun unattended.
No what you are doing is pushing a propaganda of fear. There is no need to leave loaded guns about.
the only fear we see on this thread is your fear of our rights to be armed. you continually lie about what motivates us free citizens to be armed.
how is that unsafe unless you know there are untrained people who can access the weapon easily> you do not. thus your comment is moronic
Yes, freedumb rings loud on the gunner side of the equation.