[W: #1682, 1830]Texas Says It Can Enforce Immigration Restrictions. Texas Is Right

[MTAtech]

I propose Texas build the wall on the northern border, to keep Texans away from the United States.

 

[CLAX1911]

You need to read the constitution.
The 10th Amendment says:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Immigration and borders are powers delegated to the United States, so the Tenth Amendment doesn’t apply.

Then, there is the supremacy clause.

Article VI​

para 2:
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

So, no, Texas has no authority in immigration policy.

This has nothing to do with immigration policy.

Stopping foreign actors from crossing into the state has nothing to do with immigration once they're here then immigration laws take over but they have to get here first. And if you can prevent that by simply placing an obstacle in their way you don't need to consult the federal government they have no jurisdiction there.

 

[CLAX1911]

I propose Texas build the wall on the northern border, to keep Texans away from the United States.

I support this more to keep Northern Invaders out as hundreds of thousands of people have moved to Texas from Blue State shitholes over the past year.

 

[ClaraD]

This has nothing to do with immigration policy.

Stopping foreign actors from crossing into the state has nothing to do with immigration once they're here then immigration laws take over but they have to get here first. And if you can prevent that by simply placing an obstacle in their way you don't need to consult the federal government they have no jurisdiction there.

you do, if that property isn't yours...can I go build a fence on your property? No, of course not..the property does not belong to Texas....maybe you will donate your home to the Texas Rangers?

 

[calamity]

I support this more to keep Northern Invaders out as hundreds of thousands of people have moved to Texas from Blue State shitholes over the past year.

All I know is Texans will be one of the first in the US to suffer the brunt of the climate change they've denied even existed all these years. Karma, Baby!

 

[CLAX1911]

you do, if that property isn't yours...can I go build a fence on your property? No, of course not..the property does not belong to Texas....maybe you will donate your home to the Texas Rangers?

My point was this has nothing to do with immigration.

You're not arguing that it does so what is your point that you have to buy land or at least set up an easement for public works?

It's not as complicated as you want it to be.

 

[ClaraD]

My point was this has nothing to do with immigration.

You're not arguing that it does so what is your point that you have to buy land or at least set up an easement for public works?

It's not as complicated as you want it to be.

it is, if most of that land is federally owned...and yes, we are discussing immigration and a border wall and the false claim that Abbott is making.

 

[CLAX1911]

it is, if most of that land is federally owned...and yes, we are discussing immigration and a border wall and the false claim that Abbott is making.

You only need to consult immigration if they're already here if you stop them from coming here there's no immigration so therefore immigration doesn't need to be involved.

If they aren't immigrants or illegal aliens to our country then they're outside of federal jurisdiction.

They built stuff on Federal Land all the time.

 

[rahl]

Unicorns don't exist.

Unicorns don't exist.

address what I posted, or I can just accept your concession.

illegal immigration/border crossings are solely under federal jurisdiction. The state has exactly zero jurisdiction over illegal entry.

 

[rahl]

This has nothing to do with immigration policy.

Stopping foreign actors from crossing into the state has nothing to do with immigration once they're here then immigration laws take over but they have to get here first

a state has no authority to prevent anyone from crossing their border. Texas has no authority to build a fence/wall on the US border, or anywhere else to bar entry. Abbot knows this.

. And if you can prevent that by simply placing an obstacle in their way you don't need to consult the federal government they have no jurisdiction there.

The federal govn't has jurisdiction everywhere inside US borders, to include the state of texas. What a strangely ignorant thing for you to claim. No state can prevent entry to anyone into their state.

 

[rahl]

You only need to consult immigration if they're already here if you stop them from coming here there's no immigration so therefore immigration doesn't need to be involved.

A state can not prevent entry into their state.

If they aren't immigrants or illegal aliens to our country then they're outside of federal jurisdiction.

everyone on US soil, to include illegal aliens is subject to federal jurisdiction.

They built stuff on Federal Land all the time.

no they don't.

 

[MauiMan]

Texas Says It Can Enforce Immigration Restrictions. Texas Is Right | Mises Institute

However one may feel about immigrants, both historical experience and an honest reading of the US Constitution makes it clear that the federal government is

mises.org

The Constitution of the United States specifically requires that the U.S. Gov't PROVIDE for the common defense. Biden/Harris are shirking their responsibilities therefore TX is doing what the federal gov't should be doing. Thank you TX!

I hope Texas secedes. Then they can build a wall around the whole state, and we won‘t have to listen to their nonsense anymore.

 

[Conservative]

I hope Texas secedes. Then they can build a wall around the whole state, and we won‘t have to listen to their nonsense anymore.

I really had no idea how miserable I was and am so happy that you are spreading yours equally to everyone else. It is stunning just how poorly informed I was believing all the homeless, povert, class envy and jealous, thank you so much

 

[rahl]

I know it's been said jokingly, but I think there are actually righties who think that a state can actually secede. So to set the record straight, states can not secede from the union. Texas v White.

 

[MauiMan]

I really had no idea how miserable I was and am so happy that you are spreading yours equally to everyone else. It is stunning just how poorly informed I was believing all the homeless, povert, class envy and jealous, thank you so much

More Texas blather. Go to a rodeo and smell the joy.

 

[Conservative]

More Texas blather. Go to a rodeo and smell the joy.

No, going to the basement and feel the misery of my new found liberalism, thanks for sharing

 

[MauiMan]

No, going to the basement and feel the misery of my new found liberalism, thanks for sharing

My pleasure. Smile.

 

[Conservative]

My pleasure. Smile.

Been in TX 29 years and never realized how miserable I was, low wages, poor education, high pollution, no insurance. cannot believe I survived that many years. Thanks for bringing me back to reality. My kids and grandkids are going to be shocked at how miserable they really are and never knew it

 

[CLAX1911]

address what I posted,

I did it's cognitive dissonance.

Do whatever you have to do.

 

[CLAX1911]

a state has no authority to prevent anyone from crossing their border. Texas has no authority to build a fence/wall on the US border, or anywhere else to bar entry. Abbot knows this.

but they can build a fence anywhere they like.

The federal govn't has jurisdiction everywhere inside US borders, to include the state of texas.

but they only have Federal jurisdiction. The police that have the most jurisdiction in Texas are game wardens not US Marshals. Truancy officers have the more jurisdiction in Texas than Marshalls.

What a strangely ignorant thing for you to claim. No state can prevent entry to anyone into their state.

Sure they can if they're not a citizen they don't have any right to cross into the US.

 

[Conservative]

All I know is Texans will be one of the first in the US to suffer the brunt of the climate change they've denied even existed all these years. Karma, Baby!

When I see posts like yours and liberals talking about education levels and how bad Red states are it leads me to believe that you either were not part of the study showing education superiority of blue states over red or really got the reports reversed as Red States are better than blue in education results. Posts like yours are an embarrassment to the education system that taught you

 

[ClaraD]

so with your citations in mind, is there an existing federal immigration law that forbids a state or local government from erecting a wall to prevent unauthorized crossing?

This would pretty much outlaw it...since the land in question is federally owned and others private owned...there were large tracts of land along the border, several miles in that were confiscated for Trump's border wall...making it federal property....the suspension of the project doesn't change the fact that it remains federally owned property.

Public Lands: Federal and State Power Thereover

, of the US Constitution: Analysis and Interpretation

law.justia.com

 

[ClaraD]

but they can build a fence anywhere they like.


but they only have Federal jurisdiction. The police that have the most jurisdiction in Texas are game wardens not US Marshals. Truancy officers have the more jurisdiction in Texas than Marshalls.
Sure they can if they're not a citizen they don't have any right to cross into the US.

No, they cannot fence on property that does not belong to the state....up to 100 miles inside the Texas/Mexico border federal officers such as CBP hold exclusive jurisdiction...not state police.

 

[ClaraD]

In Texas can make a law that you can't cross the border into another country. That's what the 10th amendment is about.

Texas cannot regulate any type of immigration period...you fail on what the 10th amendment is about...

 

[calamity]

Been in TX 29 years and never realized how miserable I was, low wages, poor education, high pollution, no insurance. cannot believe I survived that many years. Thanks for bringing me back to reality. My kids and grandkids are going to be shocked at how miserable they really are and never knew it

No water and low wattage would about be all I needed to know not to live somewhere. Oh well, no worries.

I’m glad everyone is leaving all those big blue lakes up by that better border for us to enjoy, drink and water green lawns with....if by chance it ever stops raining for more than a week and requires sprinkling.