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[W:1127] Justice Department says classified documents at Mar-a-Lago were likely ‘concealed and removed’ to block investigation

No I have not. I did not watch the video you posted. I stick to the news, not the personalities. I

So you don't think Tucker is news? Or any of the other Pub politicians who scream "Fascists" at the Dems?

You are probably right, but they do indeed claim to be news.

Anyway, what about Trump, when he called Democrats "fascists"? Do you condemn that twice as much as you condemn Biden for his "semi-Fascist" remark?


When you duck a question or a point, try to do it with some kind of pretend answer, is my advice. If you want to be taken seriously as a debater, I mean.

As I say, no one of CNN ever called the Pubs fascists, as so many on Fox have done. Not to my knowledge. Don't accept what your handlers tell you. Investigate.

You don't remember the catholic kids who were harrased by the indian activist who were slandered by CNN? And now Kyle Rittenhouse is suing them. And he will win or CNN will settle.

Sure I remember that fake nuisance lawsuit. What about it?

Pubs are always doing that... filing a suit to great public fanfare and then quietly dropping it. It's SOP for propagandists, that sort of thing.
 
So you don't think Tucker is news? Or any of the other Pub politicians who scream "Fascists" at the Dems?
It's a show more about commentary. It's for night ratings, much like many of the idiotic CNN shows.
Anyway, what about Trump, when he called Democrats "fascists"? Do you condemn that twice as much as you condemn Biden for his "semi-Nazi" remark?
I condemn Trump's use of the term as well, however I consider Biden's statement worse as it was specific to Trump supporters and was not part of a campaign speech.
As I say, no one of CNN ever called the Pubs fascists, as so many on Fox have done. Not to my knowledge. Don't accept what your handlers tell you. Investigate.
However CXNN once compared Trump to Hitler and Goebbels
Sure I remember that fake nuisance lawsuit. What about it?
Fake nusiosance lawsuit? CNN settled with the kid for somewhere in the millions.
Pubs are always doing that... filing a suit to great public fanfare and then quietly dropping it. It's SOP for propagandists, that sort of thing.
And democrats don't do that? You are naive.
 
Spoken like a cofused librul.
well when I am watching the Comedy network and I really need a laugh I turn on FOX and their BS makes me laugh so hard my stomach starts to ache
have a nice day
 
well when I am watching the Comedy network and I really need a laugh I turn on FOX and their BS makes me laugh so hard my stomach starts to ache
have a nice day
B.S. The truth is that you are just butthurt over Fox beating every other 24 hr news network in the ratings consistently.
 
It's a show more about commentary. It's for night ratings, much like many of the idiotic CNN shows.

I've never seen anything on CNN to approach the disgusting lying hatred expressed by Carlson. And, yeah, I've watched Don Lemon a couple of times. Not even in the same ugly universe as Carlson.

I condemn Trump's use of the term as well, however I consider Biden's statement worse as it was specific to Trump supporters and was not part of a campaign speech.

But it is specific to Trump supporters. Very specific to them. You'd rather he called all Pubs fascists?

Some of my best friends are Republicans. But I consider all current Trump supporters either too stupid to see the man or else, well... people who support the violent overthrow of our government in favor of installing a dictator.

Definitely fascist-minded folk.

However CXNN once compared Trump to Hitler and Goebbels

Uh... didn't you just call Biden "Adolph Biden"?

So you are as despicable as CNN??

(And, of course, the rise of Trump is very much like the rise of Hitler. Read some history.)

But quote what they said and I'll comment on it.

Fake nusiosance lawsuit? CNN settled with the kid for somewhere in the millions.

Jeez. You don't mind telling the Big One, do you.

The kid got a job in CNN's mailroom, but only for one summer and only at half-salary, is what I heard.

What did you hear?

And democrats don't do that? You are naive.

I don't pay much attention to Dems. I don't consider them an existential threat to my country and the planet.
 
B.S. The truth is that you are just butthurt over Fox beating every other 24 hr news network in the ratings consistently.

Why would any normal person care about that?

Fox has higher ratings because -- let's face it -- sheep are easily led.

Dems watch a dozen major news sources. Trumpers? Just one.
 
I've never seen anything on CNN to approach the disgusting lying hatred expressed by Carlson.
Dishonesty.
But it is specific to Trump supporters. Very specific to them. You'd rather he called all Pubs fascists?
I would rather that Dementia Joey talked presidential.
Some of my best friends are Republicans. But I consider all current Trump supporters either too stupid to see the man or else, well... people who support the violent overthrow of our government in favor of installing a dictator.
Sounds like an acute case of TDS.
Uh... didn't you just call Biden "Adolph Biden"?
Yes I did.
So you are as despicable as CNN??
I am not a national news network or anchor. I am just chatting on a political talkboard. Libruls on this board have called Trump and Trump supporters worse.
But quote what they said and I'll comment on it.

Jeez. You don't mind telling the Big One, do you.

The kid got a job in CNN's mailroom, but only for one summer and only at half-salary, is what I heard.

What did you hear?
Not sure we are talking about the same individual:

I don't pay much attention to Dems. I don't consider them an existential threat to my country and the planet.
Neither do you consider Trump a threat to anything other then status quo DC establishment politics. A threat to the good ole boy system of politics.
 
Dishonesty.
No idea what you're trying to say. Why not write clearly whatever you believe?

I would rather that Dementia Joey talked presidential.'

Very presidential to warn the country about the danger of a group which tried to steal an election and then tried to violently overthrow the US government, don't you think?

Sounds like an acute case of TDS.

Yeah, that's what Nazi Party members said about those who opposed Hitler in 1933.

HDS!! HDS!! You all just hate him!!

(Yeah, they were right to hate him, as it turns out. He tried to violently overthrow the German government just a few years earlier, after all.)

About CNN comparing Trump to Hitler, you now admit you were mistaken? It was just an opinion piece they ran?

Not sure we are talking about the same individual:

Yes. That individual. You said he settled for millions. I said he got a job in their mailroom at half salary, as his payoff for dropping the nuisance suit.

So you are retracting your millions-of-dollars claim now?

Neither do you consider Trump a threat to anything other then status quo DC establishment politics. A threat to the good ole boy system of politics.

Well, only if you call a violent attempt to overthrow the US government 'a threat to the good-old-boy system'.

If that's what you're saying, then you're right. I consider Trump a threat to the good-old-boy system (which the rest of us call 'democracy'.)
 
I see, so Jan 6 and the violent rioting mob of Trump supporters, bent on attempting to overthrow an entirely legitimate election and murdering elected government officials, is not dangerous to your country-and democracy? You need to reorder your priorities mate. Seriously.
Quite the imagination there. No one has been charged with attempted murder. The only one murdered was a woman that was randomly executed by the CPD. No one tried or was able to "overthrow" the unsecure election, whoever actually one remains unknown. Maybe it was aliens, you forgot to throw them in there.
 
Quite the imagination there. No one has been charged with attempted murder. The only one murdered was a woman that was randomly executed by the CPD. No one tried or was able to "overthrow" the unsecure election, whoever actually one remains unknown. Maybe it was aliens, you forgot to throw them in there.
Dude.

The woman who was killed was climbing through a broken window at the head of a violent mob......the shooting was, in fact, fully justified.

The lies need to stop.
 
If you don't hate Democrats, I've never met anyone who hates Democrats.
You seem to be the one that is unhappy. You have a dogmatic view of others, and just assign hatred of Democrats to anyone as a tool to get you out of making a stronger argument. For Christ's sake, how damn stupid is it to think that I, or anyone else on here, would hate a person because they are a Democrat?

That really explains a lot about your posts, your insane opinions on Trump, and your general demeanor. Good luck sorting that mess out. And I mean it.
 
You assume that the only reason for the raid was political bias. That view is analogous to John Gotti complaining that the only reason he was arrested was because the authorities are biased against Italians. Both are false. Gotti was arrested for overwhelming evidence that he committed crimes. The raid on Trump's home was for the same reason. In fact, Garland weighed whether it was proper to raid a former president's home and concluded there was no choice. Allowing Trump to keep these documents harms the national interest.

Had you or I been suspected of taking government documents -- especially top secret documents, the FBI would have bashed down our doors at 5AM on day one. Trump got nearly two years to comply with repeated requests to return them and he refused. He did allow some documents, after a year, to be returned but then denied that he had any more. The FBI knew, probably through an informant, that he had many more. That's when the GO order was given because of the national security nature of the docs and the deceit on Trump's part.

The only reason this is in the news is because Trump made an announcement of the raid, not the FBI.
Firstly, neither of us is FPOTUS, so there is no comparison to us, or any other citizen.
Otherwise, why did Garland go ahead with the raid, as never done before? As far as we know at this time, there was zero urgency and he could have followed the standard path of negotiating with the Trump team as to what Trump could keep, and what had to go back.

Of course, if he did that, his allies in the media couldn't run stories about "classified documents", "nuclear codes at risk", and "operatives" in danger. All complete speculation, a bunch of "what if" bullshit reported as if it were fact.

Now, since there is so much potential political gain to be had in going forward with a raid, can you understand why anyone, anyone at all, might get the idea that politics was involved?
 
The only one murdered was a woman that was randomly executed by the CPD

Boy, you Republicans really hate law enforcement, don't you.

Hey, what else can you do with a leader like Trump.
 
You seem to be the one that is unhappy. You have a dogmatic view of others, and just assign hatred of Democrats to anyone as a tool to get you out of making a stronger argument. For Christ's sake, how damn stupid is it to think that I, or anyone else on here, would hate a person because they are a Democrat?

That really explains a lot about your posts, your insane opinions on Trump, and your general demeanor. Good luck sorting that mess out. And I mean it.

Didn't mean to frighten you off.

But if it slows down your hatred, hard to be unhappy about it.
 
Otherwise, why did Garland go ahead with the raid, as never done before? As far as we know at this time, there was zero urgency and he could have followed the standard path of negotiating with the Trump team as to what Trump could keep, and what had to go back.

Trump got busted with stolen property, some of it dangerous top secret documents.

Get over it.
 
Now, since there is so much potential political gain to be had in going forward with a raid, can you understand why anyone, anyone at all, might get the idea that politics was involved?

There's lots of gain for the country to bust a guy with stolen secret documents.

Sorry he's your guy, but there it is. Maybe you should make better choices in your leadership?
 
Dude.

The woman who was killed was climbing through a broken window at the head of a violent mob......the shooting was, in fact, fully justified.

The lies need to stop.
There was zero justification. Moments prior to that, there were two CPD officers standing at the door. If she was such a danger, why didn't they stop her? Instead, she was shot and killed.
 
There was zero justification. Moments prior to that, there were two CPD officers standing at the door. If she was such a danger, why didn't they stop her? Instead, she was shot and killed.

She earned her bullet fair and square and created another American hero for us -- a brave member of law enforcement who stood between the mob and civilized society.

I'm amazed that the cops didn't open fire there at the main opening, when one of them was dragged into the crowd. I'm glad they didn't, but damn, how hard that must have been.
 
Holy shit! I sure hit a nerve! Thanks for confirming I was right on target.

Haters are never brave, especially in debate. Almost never. That's my experience, anyway.
 
There was zero justification. Moments prior to that, there were two CPD officers standing at the door. If she was such a danger, why didn't they stop her? Instead, she was shot and killed.
So climbing through a broken window at the head of a violent mob in the midst of an attack on the Capitol of the USA is not justification?



Lol.

Ridiculous!
 
There was zero justification. Moments prior to that, there were two CPD officers standing at the door. If she was such a danger, why didn't they stop her? Instead, she was shot and killed.

Perfectly justified. She could've stayed home that day. She didn't have to violently attack our seat of government and try to kill our leaders.
 
So climbing through a broken window at the head of a violent mob in the midst of an attack on the Capitol of the USA is not justification?

Within seconds of clearing the barricade and unlocking the door for the crowd that wanted to capture some legislators (or a VP)... giving Trump the excuse he needed to declare martial law and keep the Oval Office.

That officer may have saved American democracy with that bullet. Who knows.

He's an American hero no matter which way you cut it.
 
She earned her bullet fair and square and created another American hero for us -- a brave member of law enforcement who stood between the mob and civilized society.

I'm amazed that the cops didn't open fire there at the main opening, when one of them was dragged into the crowd. I'm glad they didn't, but damn, how hard that must have been.
Of course, you provide no reason for her being shot, other than a bizarre "She earned her bullet" response. And then you call the shooter "brave" for killing her as she was being held up in the air. Wow, what courage, shooting a defenseless woman.
 
So climbing through a broken window at the head of a violent mob in the midst of an attack on the Capitol of the USA is not justification?
Not as you described, and no justification for her murder. What did that accomplish, exactly?
 
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