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Voter Fraud

NO on national ID cards. We already have something close to that - it's called a Social Security card.
 
chuckiechan said:
NO on national ID cards. We already have something close to that - it's called a Social Security card.
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Actually what we need to do is assign encryption keys to every citizen for identification, this along with a finger print would exclude any and all fraud.

But then how would the Democrats win elections :lamo
 
chuckiechan said:
NO on national ID cards. We already have something close to that - it's called a Social Security card.
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Okay. Back in the day, I remember going to the SSA office and presenting my birth certificate to get a SSN. Are you opposed to doing the same thing for a voter ID card? I'm curious.
 
DamnYankee said:
Okay. Back in the day, I remember going to the SSA office and presenting my birth certificate to get a SSN. Are you opposed to doing the same thing for a voter ID card? I'm curious.
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Apparently requiring anyone to do anything to prove they have the right to vote (They are legal citizens) is racist.
 
blaxshep said:
Actually what we need to do is assign encryption keys to every citizen for identification, this along with a finger print would exclude any and all fraud.

But then how would the Democrats win elections :lamo
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With a card, and a national voter registration, just swipe your card showing you voted. So, couldn't the encryption thingy you talked about be on the card? I'm not all computer savvy so I really don't know what that stuff is.
 
blaxshep said:
Actually what we need to do is assign encryption keys to every citizen for identification, this along with a finger print would exclude any and all fraud.

But then how would the Democrats win elections :lamo
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You seem to have a really hard time with the concept that a lot of people don't agree with you politically.
 
https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/debunking-voter-fraud-myth


...The Truth About Voter Fraud, found that most reported incidents of voter fraud are actually traceable to other sources, such as clerical errors or bad data matching practices. The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.00004 percent and 0.0009 percent. Given this tiny incident rate for voter impersonation fraud, it is more likely, the report noted, that an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.
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And if you don't like that article, there are dozens more that show the same thing over and over again. And it's always conservatives who are coming up with ideas on how to make it more difficult to vote. Why is that?
 
DamnYankee said:
With a card, and a national voter registration, just swipe your card showing you voted. So, couldn't the encryption thingy you talked about be on the card? I'm not all computer savvy so I really don't know what that stuff is.
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Yes, in fact the new cards you probably goy from the bank that have that little chip embedded on them, that's got an encryption key in it.
 
I wish the FBI would offer immunity to the people that delivered "missing" trunk fulls of ballots in Al Frankin's election sometime back. We should learn from the pro's.
 
blaxshep said:
Yes, in fact the new cards you probably goy from the bank that have that little chip embedded on them, that's got an encryption key in it.
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So as long as you can prove citizenship, and obtain the card, you would be good to go. Are those card easily forged?
 
chuckiechan said:
I wish the FBI would offer immunity to the people that delivered "missing" trunk fulls of ballots in Al Frankin's election sometime back. We should learn from the pro's.
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Voter fraud seems to be perpetrated more so by the left I would agree. They seem to have a difficult time with honesty more so than others. But something akin to a national voter card may seriously reduce these crimes and somewhat eliminate the need for endless recounts. I would think.
 
Opopanax said:
https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/debunking-voter-fraud-myth




And if you don't like that article, there are dozens more that show the same thing over and over again. And it's always conservatives who are coming up with ideas on how to make it more difficult to vote. Why is that?
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Well, conservatives discovered the gravity of the problem. The light dawned for them in 2008, by sheer coincidence right after the election of a black President. For two hundred years Presidential elections took place without anyone noticing. This was because the known impact of voter fraud was infinitesimal. But...BUT, what about the unknown impact. What if there are thousands, tens of thousands, of impersonators corrupting our elections. Who would ever know? Election officials quickly would, but let's not get into that. Let's imagine the worst which you do by not really thinking about the practical impossibility of flooding or even trickling the voting lines or mail ins with phonies. Instead of considering the matter intelligently let's just make voting harder for people, especially the kind of people responsible for ending our sacrosanct white Presidential line.
 
JackA said:
Well, conservatives discovered the gravity of the problem. The light dawned for them in 2008, by sheer coincidence right after the election of a black President. For two hundred years Presidential elections took place without anyone noticing. This was because the known impact of voter fraud was infinitesimal. But...BUT, what about the unknown impact. What if there are thousands, tens of thousands, of impersonators corrupting our elections. Who would ever know? Election officials quickly would, but let's not get into that. Let's imagine the worst which you do by not really thinking about the practical impossibility of flooding or even trickling the voting lines or mail ins with phonies. Instead of considering the matter intelligently let's just make voting harder for people, especially the kind of people responsible for ending our sacrosanct white Presidential line.
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"Instead of considering the matter intelligently let's just make voting harder for people, especially the kind of people responsible for ending our sacrosanct white Presidential line."

I have a guess what you mean by that quote. But I need clarity. Please flesh that out for me. Maybe I need more context. Where you're coming from. Thanks.
 
bluesmoke said:
You assume a "fix" is needed. Show me the problem that needs to be fixed. Show the irrefutable evidence.
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How much voter fraud is acceptable to you people? Is Harrisonburg not enough? How about 10 jurisdictions, is that enough? Or maybe 20? When is enough, enough?
 
bluesmoke said:
"Instead of considering the matter intelligently let's just make voting harder for people, especially the kind of people responsible for ending our sacrosanct white Presidential line."

I have a guess what you mean by that quote. But I need clarity. Please flesh that out for me. Maybe I need more context. Where you're coming from. Thanks.
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I mean the claims of voter fraud are fraudulent themselves, made for the purpose of holding back the rising tide of minority voting. We know which party feels threatened by that rising tide. Many studies exist of supposed voter fraud. In the vast majority cases where something was amiss the cause was clerical error by election workers, not deliberate misconduct, and when misconduct has occurred it was usually by party workers at the polls, not by voters. In person voting fraud is very rare, for obvious reasons. The person doing it takes a real risk at getting caught and being charged with a crime. How would you recruit a meaningful number of impostors in the first place? One study of more than 2,000 actual claims of voter fraud found that only ten involved in person voter fraud, which is the only kind of fraud that requiring photo identification addresses.

Here is one link. You can google for others:

https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/voter-fraud
 
DamnYankee said:
How much voter fraud is acceptable to you people? Is Harrisonburg not enough? How about 10 jurisdictions, is that enough? Or maybe 20? When is enough, enough?
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You've not produced irrefutable evidence of what you've claimed. Show us your evidence.
 
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