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Voter fraud = right wing myth.

Balderdash, rubbish, and may I say poppycock. You need an ID to function in society. Get it or stay home

So what do you say when a state, North Carolina is only one of several, that is refusing to accept various IDs that are accepted for other legal purposes? Then, as in Texas, Wisconsin and other Republican states, North Carolina reduces the offices that may issue the specific ID required to vote, cuts back office hours and in Texas, end up with offices allowed to issue 'approved' ID that require 100 mile roundtrips for many rural voters.

Now add that to the actual statements of various Republican state officials who have admitted the increased restrictions are purposely aimed at the demographic groups which tend to vote Democrat.
 
So what do you say when a state, North Carolina is only one of several, that is refusing to accept various IDs that are accepted for other legal purposes? Then, as in Texas, Wisconsin and other Republican states, North Carolina reduces the offices that may issue the specific ID required to vote, cuts back office hours and in Texas, end up with offices allowed to issue 'approved' ID that require 100 mile roundtrips for many rural voters.

Now add that to the actual statements of various Republican state officials who have admitted the increased restrictions are purposely aimed at the demographic groups which tend to vote Democrat.


I'd say it will take more than because you said so to convince me of the narrative you're trying to present. I would say you'd have to demonstrate a correlation of events. I would say if the rural areas are so under populated, than with states facing economic struggles wouldn't the least used offices be the first to be closed and consolidated? Thereby making for more efficient government? I'd also say if these areas are traditionally filled with people who shun obtaining their ID, does it not make further sense that the government would shut down those offices? Or do you think that government offices should be staffed and open when no one is there to use them?

Please show me actual statements of various GOP state officials who have admitted the increased restrictions are purposely aimed at the demographic groups which tend to vote democrat.
 
I know that you will refuse to accept any items I post but for other readers:

Government to sue NC over voter law :: WRAL.com

The U.S. Justice Department will sue the state of North Carolina for alleged racial discrimination over tough new voting rules, the latest effort by the Obama administration to fight back against a Supreme Court decision that struck down the most powerful part of the landmark Voting Rights Act and freed Southern states from strict federal oversight of their elections.

Justice Department sues Texas over voter ID law - Washington Post

The Justice Department on Thursday redoubled its efforts to challenge state voting laws, suing Texas over its new voter ID measure as part of a growing political showdown over electoral rights.

Former Florida GOP leaders say voter suppression was reason they pushed new election law
Former GOP chair, governor - both on outs with party - say voter fraud wasn’t a concern, but reducing Democratic votes was.

PA GOP leader admits Voter ID is for Democratic vote suppression
Rachel Maddow shares video of Pennsylvania Republican Party chairman, Rob Gleason, boasting about the effectiveness of voter I.D. at reducing the margin of victory for President Obama in that state in the 2012 election.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...ight-over-poll-hours-isnt-just-political.html

“I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine,” said Doug Preisse, chairman of the county Republican Party and elections board member who voted against weekend hours, in an email to The Dispatch. “Let’s be fair and reasonable.”<snip>
A study by the Franklin County Board of Elections shows that 48 percent of early, in-person votes in 2008 were cast after hours on weekdays, on weekends or on the Monday before the election — almost none of which is available to 2012 voters.

And those late ballots came predominantly from blacks and Democrats, the research shows. In all, 8 percent of whites cast early in-person ballots, while 13.3 percent of blacks did, said the study, which used census data to estimate the racial breakdown of voters.

Turzai: Voter ID Law Means Romney Can Win in PA | PoliticsPA

House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R-Allegheny) suggested that the House’s end game in passing the Voter ID law was to benefit the GOP politically.
 
Believe and vote as you choose. So will we.
We choose voter IDs.
And THAT is just the START of TAKING our country back.
You think that is only rhetoric.
You are watching us in ACTION, TAKING back our country from the socialists.
And you should hope we ARE successful.
Because the FINAL option, one we ALL hope to avoid, is civil war!
But our hope doesn't include "at ALL costs"!
 
Believe and vote as you choose. So will we.
We choose voter IDs.
And THAT is just the START of TAKING our country back.
You think that is only rhetoric.
You are watching us in ACTION, TAKING back our country from the socialists.
And you should hope we ARE successful.
Because the FINAL option, one we ALL hope to avoid, is civil war!
But our hope doesn't include "at ALL costs"!

So, should voter ID laws kick in and the Republicans still don't dominate the "socialists" like you obviously anticipate, you are advocating armed insurrection.

Adorable.
 
I have to show ID every time I enter base, i have to show ID when I purchase something at the px/shopette, i have to show ID if I get pulled over, i have to show ID to log into my computer and check e-mail, i have to have ID to drive my car, I have to have ID to carry my glock concealed, i have to show ID when I go to the bank, I have to show ID when I buy alcohol.

I have to show ID every single day, am I being disenfranchised? No, this is the dumbest argument that I have ever heard.
 
I have to show ID every time I enter base, i have to show ID when I purchase something at the px/shopette, i have to show ID if I get pulled over, i have to show ID to log into my computer and check e-mail, i have to have ID to drive my car, I have to have ID to carry my glock concealed, i have to show ID when I go to the bank, I have to show ID when I buy alcohol.

I have to show ID every single day, am I being disenfranchised? No, this is the dumbest argument that I have ever heard.

You should have to provide ID for necro posting a two month old thread if you're posting something that already was said.
 
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