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Von der Leyen offers Trump 'zero-for-zero' tariffs deal on all industrial goods (1 Viewer)

please not - I don´t wanna eat chlorine chicken.

I even went on demonstrations against ttip in Berlin because of that.

...in luckier times with luxury problems ;)
I mean, it just depends on how much you like salmonella.


According to a report from the Adam Smith Institute (which argues in favour of allowing PRTs), "immersing poultry meat in chlorine dioxide solution of the strength used in the United States reduces prevalence of salmonella from 14% in controls to 2%. EU chicken samples typically have 15-20%.
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US regulators are unequivocal: yes, it's safe. The USDA has approved several antimicrobial rinses for use in poultry processing, including chlorine dioxide, acidified sodium chlorite, trisodium phosphate and peroxyacids, and meat treated with such rinses is considered safe for consumers to eat.

And, in fact, their EU colleagues agree. The European food safety regulator EFSA looked at the issue of chlorine treatment and found "chemical substances in poultry are unlikely to pose an immediate or acute health risk for consumers."

What's more, the US National Chicken Council estimates that only 10% of the processing plants in the US actually use chlorine washes.

A lot of the "food safety" stuff in the EU is just protectionism against foreign markets who might be able to bring their product to market at lower prices.
 
I have traveled quite a bit and met many, many Americans, some interesting and fun, some not so much but never, ever have I ever had anyone ask such a question. I'm left to question your veracity.

Your Right. Cannot do anything against that. But it hurts ;P
 
A lot of the "food safety" stuff in the EU is just protectionism against foreign markets who might be able to bring their product to market at lower prices.

I think you are wrong. That is not government or economy made. Thats more from the people. They are much more aware on what they eat here.

And I know the Salmonalla argument - but we don´t have more cases here than you have. ;)
 
please not - I don´t wanna eat chlorine chicken.
You do know chlorine doesn't remain on the chicken after it's done dealing with microbes?

And that even if it did, *cooking* the chicken removes it nicely.

Don't eat raw chicken.
 
You can as a non-EU citizen/resident. All ports of entry and online have that ability.
It seemed like a paperwork hassle at the port of disembarkation, the few times we have thought about it.
 
You do know chlorine doesn't remain on the chicken after it's done dealing with microbes?

And that even if it did, *cooking* the chicken removes it nicely.

Don't eat raw chicken.

To be honest - I don´t eat chicken if not from a neighboring farm anyway. I am a farmer myself, I know how they are grown. ;) - But that´s a personal thing, everybody shall eat as he wants
 
I have traveled quite a bit and met many, many Americans, some interesting and fun, some not so much but never, ever have I ever had anyone ask such a question. I'm left to question your veracity.

I'm glad to hear of your good experiences. I too have traveled around a lot and have met hundreds of wonderful people in all countries. Only once have I met a rude person...in England.
 
I mean, it just depends on how much you like salmonella.




A lot of the "food safety" stuff in the EU is just protectionism against foreign markets who might be able to bring their product to market at lower prices.
The Adam Smith Institute.. a right wing think tank that also happens to advocate flat tax and fully free trade.. of course they would be against anything that would prevent the lowest price possible and screw the consequences for health.

Also the price difference is minimal between US and European produced chicken and usually in European favour. By the time the US produced chicken gets to Europe it will be way more expensive due to transportation. And forget fresh chicken..
 
To be honest - I don´t eat chicken if not from a neighboring farm anyway. I am a farmer myself, I know how they are grown. ;) - But that´s a personal thing, everybody shall eat as he wants
I remember stopping with my brother at a travel center near Hanau where you can still get authentic German food before setting out for Heidelburg Castle.

While I loved every trip to Germany and I feel it is in almost all ways a model society, I will NOT be lectured on food by a culture that thinks a fried egg balanced on top of what tasted like the sole of a shut is FOOD.

Also jugged hare. What the hell?

Fortunately, the restaurants were serving Italian food cooked by people that fled Italy in the 2006-2009 collapse. Proper Italian food with proper German beer is as European as it gets and it's awesome, but "traditional" German food tastes like the fall of Rome and a thousand years of darkness. So just eat the damn chicken.

Luce,
Traveling food critic.
 
I remember stopping with my brother at a travel center near Hanau where you can still get authentic German food before setting out for Heidelburg Castle.

While I loved every trip to Germany and I feel it is in almost all ways a model society, I will NOT be lectured on food by a culture that thinks a fried egg balanced on top of what tasted like the sole of a shut is FOOD.

Also jugged hare. What the hell?

Fortunately, the restaurants were serving Italian food cooked by people that fled Italy in the 2006-2009 collapse. Proper Italian food with proper German beer is as European as it gets and it's awesome, but "traditional" German food tastes like the fall of Rome and a thousand years of darkness. So just eat the damn chicken.

Luce,
Traveling food critic.
I am half German and love the beer, bread and sausage, but I draw the line at blutwurst! I’ll eat scrapple, but I have standards…
 
I am half German and love the beer, bread and sausage, but I draw the line at blutwurst! I’ll eat scrapple, but I have standards…
Scrapple is one thing I've avoided all my life. It's like haggis, I just can't imagine eating it.
 
Scrapple is one thing I've avoided all my life. It's like haggis, I just can't imagine eating it.
I missed my chance when in Scotland.

Scrapple with a well done crust is delicious.
 
It might very well be, but I'm never going to give it a trry.
There is very little if anything that I could ever imagine agreeing with you on......but on this one you are right.
 
I remember stopping with my brother at a travel center near Hanau where you can still get authentic German food before setting out for Heidelburg Castle.

While I loved every trip to Germany and I feel it is in almost all ways a model society, I will NOT be lectured on food by a culture that thinks a fried egg balanced on top of what tasted like the sole of a shut is FOOD.

Also jugged hare. What the hell?

Fortunately, the restaurants were serving Italian food cooked by people that fled Italy in the 2006-2009 collapse. Proper Italian food with proper German beer is as European as it gets and it's awesome, but "traditional" German food tastes like the fall of Rome and a thousand years of darkness. So just eat the damn chicken.

Luce,
Traveling food critic.

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I´m used to that stuff, pardon me. It can get worse... some eat Haggis ;)

I really would like to try new Olrleans food, I just saw a documentry about food there and it looked delicious
 
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Betcha the orange dumbass says yes to this and calls it a victory... It will be for Europe, especially if the US gets rid of the 25% tariff on trucks and other "industrial" machines and goods.
I think Trump will say no. I don't think he is looking for a deal. He has decided he really wants the tariffs.
 
I think Trump will say no. I don't think he is looking for a deal. He has decided he really wants the tariffs.
Yeah, I think Trump is counting on the tariff revenue to make his tax policy possible.
 
Huh? I was told Trump was using tariffs as a way to get manufacturing back to the US.

MAGA needs to make up it's mind.
1. Who says you cant have 2 mutually exclusive goals?
2. You need a mind first before you can make up yoru mind
 
BS. Name one thing he has successfully negotiated as President? He has you bamboozled. He is a deal breaker not a deal maker.
The USMCA which is the greatest trade deal in the history of the world and also apparently the worst deal ever negoctiated but that he was suckered into signing by evil aides who were clearly under the mind control of mutant beavers
 

Trump says EU must buy $350B of US energy to get tariff relief...​


Hate to say it but I told you so... . Trump will win this, he's playing divide and conquer and it works.
And if you think it will end there, forget it. If you give into the demands of a bully, all that will happen is that you will pay more and more.
 

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