Veritas caught Ballot Harvester: Omar Connected Harvester SEEN Exchanging $200 for General Election Ballot.

[Aunt Antifa]

It has not been debunked. You have chosen to discount it because of the source, but that does not debunk anything.


The video is evidence.

It is evidence of how badly you’re losing this election that you keep pleading with everyone to let you throw out our votes.

 

[Jay59]

It is evidence of how badly you’re losing this election that you keep pleading with everyone to let you throw out our votes.

I understand you have a major denial problem where the President is involved, but facts are still facts.

If you actually believe in one person = one vote, you will reexamine this. Otherwise you are endorsing cheating.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

I understand you have a major denial problem where the President is involved, but facts are still facts.

Citation needed.

 

[Kurmugeon]

That statement has to be the single greatest example of someone disconnected from reality that I've ever seen. LMAO

Here are just a few of the results from their sting operations:

ACORN - Half a dozen employees were fired... Both the Census Bureau and IRS cut ties with ACORN and Congress defunded them.

Teachers Union investigation - Hamilton Township Education Association President admitting that they cover up Child Abuse, Protect Drug-Using and Shoplifting Teachers. Union City NJEA President Admits to Protecting “Teacher Who Had Sex With” Teenage Girl. Michigan AFT Union Representative admitting they protected a teacher after accusations of sexual misconduct with a seven- or eight-year-old girl. Ohio Teachers Union Presidents Defend “physical, sexual, verbal” Abuse of Children and 3 other current or former teachers union presidents admitting that they have protected and defended union members that have abused students. This led to multiple investigations in multiple states.

Common Core expose' - 3 execs fired. West Coast Accounts Manager & Strategic Account Manager Houghton-Mifflin Harcourt, executive for National Geographic.

Anti-Trump DisruptJ20 - Led to several investigations by the FBI and LE... Three members of the group arrested and charged with Conspiracy to Commit an Assault.

Obama's shovel ready jobs scam - Exposed "Green Jobs, Green New York" for ripping off tax payers with phony green jobs. Caught on tape labor bosses, a NY Legislator, and a former NY Assemblyman, who tell them how to secure funding for "bullshit" Green Jobs.

Here are a few video's you will avoid like the plague:

You've absolutely nailed it in this post, but few on the Leftie side will even take the time to scan over it, much less actually READ it.

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[Aunt Antifa]

You've absolutely nailed it in this post, but few on the Leftie side will even take the time to scan over it, much less actually READ it.

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Do you think Bill Barr is lying on behalf of Joe Biden when he insists there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud?

 

[ultmd]

That statement has to be the single greatest example of someone disconnected from reality that I've ever seen. LMAO

If someone had asked me for odds on who would be most likely to take that bait, I would have had you near the top of my list, Grim. You are certainly among the most consistently delusional and misinformed fake-newsers on this forum. No doubt about it.

James O'Keefe is a convicted criminal and con-artist, who is a "journalist" in the eyes of the fake-news universe. In other words, he is the embodiment of the mentality of the entire alt-right/white nationalist movement that speaks to/for people like you, Grim.

Here are just a few of the results from their sting operations:

1. ACORN - Half a dozen employees were fired... Both the Census Bureau and IRS cut ties with ACORN and Congress defunded them.
2. Teachers Union investigation - Hamilton Township Education Association President admitting that they cover up Child Abuse, Protect Drug-Using and Shoplifting Teachers. Union City NJEA President Admits to Protecting “Teacher Who Had Sex With” Teenage Girl. Michigan AFT Union Representative admitting they protected a teacher after accusations of sexual misconduct with a seven- or eight-year-old girl. Ohio Teachers Union Presidents Defend “physical, sexual, verbal” Abuse of Children and 3 other current or former teachers union presidents admitting that they have protected and defended union members that have abused students. This led to multiple investigations in multiple states.
3. Common Core expose' - 3 execs fired. West Coast Accounts Manager & Strategic Account Manager Houghton-Mifflin Harcourt, executive for National Geographic.
4. Anti-Trump DisruptJ20 - Led to several investigations by the FBI and LE... Three members of the group arrested and charged with Conspiracy to Commit an Assault.
5. Obama's shovel ready jobs scam- Exposed "Green Jobs, Green New York" for ripping off tax payers with phony green jobs. Caught on tape labor bosses, a NY Legislator, and a former NY Assemblyman, who tell them how to secure funding for "bullshit" Green Jobs.

1. ACORN: The ACORN takedown was fully exposed as a scam (that worked, unfortunately). O'Keefe's heavily doctored videos were discredited. ACORN actually did NOTHING wrong. Records revealed there was no voter registration fraud at all. ACORN followed the rules, in every way. And O'Keefe was forced to accept a 6-figure settlement (he was only paid $65K by Breitbart for his efforts) to at least one of the ACORN employees when courts revealed that his videos were edited to grossly misrepresent what the employees actually did.
2. Teachers' Union Investigations: First, you're lying. And that doesn't have a thing to do with O'Keefe. But O'Keefe's videos and "expose's" were also exposed for their selective editing...as they always are.

• The HTEA President NEVER admitted to any sort of cover up. He said it was his JOB to provide defense for union members accused of misbehavior...regardless of the accusation. And the incident in question never happened. The Veritas employee posed as a mother of a fictitious middle schooler, who had been beaten by a teacher. It never happened. All the union person said was that his job required him to defend ANY union member, regardless of the accusation.
• The Michigan AFT and Ohio situations were almost the exact same thing. In every instance, the Veritas videos were proved to be highly edited and have no resulted in a single indictment. In some of them, Veritas has been forced by the courts to disclose all of it's internal documents and communications as part of the legal discovery process, and has had several interim rulings go AGAINST it by the courts. As things stand now, both Veritas and O'Keefe look to be poised to lose every case.

---continued---

 

[ultmd]

---Part 2----

3. Common Cause: This one is not even remotely a scandal. It was actually one "executive" and one employee, both of whom insist that their remarks were heavily edited by the Veritas videos. The employee, Barrow, never once even mentions the words "Common Core" in the entire highly-edited 7 minute video released by Veritas. But Veritas, of course, refuses to release the entire recordings. And given their track record of lies and misrepresentation in their videos, this is certainly the case here as well. One of these cases in currently in the courts right now, so we'll soon see. If past is prologue, we can rest assured that this is about as credible as every other Veritas project in history: A LIE and a FAKE-NEWS SMEAR JOB.
4. Anti-Trump DisruptJ20: 200+ protesters charged by Trump's DOJ for simply protesting during the 2020 inauguration. Charges against ALL were dropped (some with prejudice) in the courts. Not one charge stuck. The Trump DOJ was discredited again. Even worse, this group (Disrupt J20) managed to flip the script on Veritas, by catching O'Keefe and his people ON TAPE planning political hit jobs for Trump.

Too FUNNY!
5. Obama's shovel ready jobs scam: This was just a man's personal opinion. It was never a scandal. Again, there's a reason why none of these stories make real news.

But you seem to have "conveniently" omitted a LOT of O'Keefes most scandalous failures, Grim. Why is that, huh? What about these:
6. WaPo catches Veritas/O'Keefe trying to peddle a fake pedophilia story about Roy Moore. O'Keefe was hoping to get the WaPo to publish the lie, and then expose it himself. in order to help the pedophile Roy Moore in his Senate campaign (which he lost). Of course, WaPo did what REAL journalists do, and investigated the fake story given them by an O'Keefe employee, and quickly published O'Keefe's attempted scam.
7. O'Keefe's own former EXECTIVE DIRECTOR at Veritas turned on him and warned a CNN reporter that O'Keefe was planning to run a sting on her to portray her (falsely) as involved in (or complicit with) a yacht-based sex ring.
8. O'Keefe is caught, arrested and convicted for impersonating a public utility worker, tresspassing and attempting to illegally tap the phones of a U.S. Senatory (Mary Landrieu, La.). He was given 3 years probation, 100 hours of community service and a 4-figure fine (in yet another classic example of the privilege of being white in our legal system).
9. In the 2014 midterms in Colorado O'Keefe, wearing in a fake mustache and pretending to be a 45 year old, kept approaching Democratic field staffers and tempting them to commit or endorse voter fraud by asking them if he could if out and mail in ballots for college students who had moved away. He was quickly busted for this, too.
10. Also in 2014, O'Keefe released another heavily edited video alleging that Hollywood film directors, including one named Josh Fox, were accepting money for an anti-fracking movie from Middle Eastern oil interests. Unfortunately for O'Keefe, Fox also secretly recorded his full conversations with the Project Veritas employees. This failure was so obvious and embarrassing for him that it almost cost O'Keefe all of his funding.

 

[JMR]

No. I did not fulfill the potential for corruption that others seem eager to fulfill.

Which other?

 

[Grim17]

1. ACORN: The ACORN takedown was fully exposed as a scam (that worked, unfortunately). O'Keefe's heavily doctored videos were discredited. ACORN actually did NOTHING wrong. Records revealed there was no voter registration fraud at all. ACORN followed the rules, in every way. And O'Keefe was forced to accept a 6-figure settlement (he was only paid $65K by Breitbart for his efforts) to at least one of the ACORN employees when courts revealed that his videos were edited to grossly misrepresent what the employees actually did.

Both parts I highlighted are 100% false.

Not one the ACORN videos was ever discredited. They accurately portrayed the words and sentiments of every single ACORN employee featured on every one of the videos.

No court ANYWHERE has ever said, ruled, or voiced the opinion, that any of the ACORN videos were edited to misrepresent in any way what those employees said on those tapes. O'Keefe paid one employee from the San Diego office $100k because recording the man without his consent violated California privacy laws. The settlement was not about the content of the video, and nowhere in the court papers does it say or even imply that Mr. Vera was taken out of context or misrepresented in any way.

Those are stone cold FACTS... If you disagree, then back up your BS. Present any one of those videos you claim was discredited or edited to misrepresent an ACORN employee.

If they were discredited as you claim, then there must be dozens of websites that have demonstrated this.... But there aren't... There isn't as much as one because those videos were legit.

 

[code1211]

Know how hard it is to get a ballot application in Arizona? Here you go...

https://azsos.gov/sites/default/files/20-AZS0S-0958_PEVL_Registration_Form_r09.pdf

That pretty much tells the whole story, doesn't it.

It's easier to get that than it is to get a beer ticket at the average Octoberfest.

What's wrong with this picture?

 

[Aunt Antifa]

That pretty much tells the whole story, doesn't it.

It's easier to get that than it is to get a beer ticket at the average Octoberfest.

What's wrong with this picture?

That you guys cannot produce any evidence of widespread voter fraud; and thus you know TRump is gonna loose in a landslide.

 

[BlueTex]

That pretty much tells the whole story, doesn't it.

It's easier to get that than it is to get a beer ticket at the average Octoberfest.

What's wrong with this picture?

Why should it be hard to get an absentee ballot application?

 

[code1211]

Which other?

There are a few examples of extreme violation of election integrity. Here's one.

New Project Veritas Video: Voter Fraud in Ilhan Omar’s District | National Review

A Somali American whistleblower working in the sheriff’s office helped O’Keefe record evidence of a cash-for-votes scheme.

www.nationalreview.com

<snip>
A“ballot broker” boasts about keeping hundreds of absentee ballots in his car trunk. He brags about them being filled in by people other than the voters.
<snip>
Common sense and election observers argue against any sudden shift. “Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud,” concluded the bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform, co-chaired by former President Jimmy Carter. Allowing such ballots “increases the risks of fraud and of contested elections.”
<snip>

 

[ultmd]

Both parts I highlighted are 100% false.

Not one the ACORN videos was ever discredited. They accurately portrayed the words and sentiments of every single ACORN employee featured on every one of the videos.

No court ANYWHERE has ever said, ruled, or voiced the opinion, that any of the ACORN videos were edited to misrepresent in any way what those employees said on those tapes. O'Keefe paid one employee from the San Diego office $100k because recording the man without his consent violated California privacy laws. The settlement was not about the content of the video, and nowhere in the court papers does it say or even imply that Mr. Vera was taken out of context or misrepresented in any way.

Those are stone cold FACTS... If you disagree, then back up your BS. Present any one of those videos you claim was discredited or edited to misrepresent an ACORN employee.

If they were discredited as you claim, then there must be dozens of websites that have demonstrated this.... But there aren't... There isn't as much as one because those videos were legit.

So, clearly...you're either lying, or just clueless due to the fakenews bubble that so many people like you live in.

Regardless, you're WRONG. Your "stone cold facts" are lies that you KNOW you can't back up.

• The ACORN videos were confirmed, by multiple news sources, to be "highly edited" and "misleading". I'll post links, below...but let me see you prove otherwise.
• The "sentiments" were accurate? Says whom? You? Who cares what you think? What a dumb thing to say. The FACT is that the ACORN employee report O'Keefe to the police as soon as he left the office...and was TOLD by the police to keep talking to O'Keefe to gain as much information as possible to share with the police (who were preparing to investigate the fake pimp, O'Keefe on human trafficking, himself). Those are the REAL "stone cold facts".

Now, as for the CLEAR RECORD that the videos were found to be edited and misleading, here are just a few sources:

• The Brooklyn DA's investigation ruled there was ZERO evidence of criminality, and that "They edited the tape to meet their agenda".
• The Kings County DA (NY) investigated and found that "That investigation is now concluded and no criminality has been found.”
• The California A.G. investigated the O'Keefe sting in that state. O'Keefe asked for (and received) criminal (but not civil) immunity in order to avoid prosecution, in exchange for turning over the complete, unedited tapes of his sting. The Cali. A.G. found that " The video releases were heavily edited to feature only the worst or most inappropriate statements of the various ACORN employees and to omit some of the most salient statements by O'Keefe and Giles. Each of the ACORN employees recorded in California was a low level employee whose job was to help the needy individuals who walked in the door seeking assistance. Giles and O'Keefe lied to engender compassion, but then edited their statements from the released videos".
• I could go on (Maryland, etc.) but that's enough to prove my general point (i.e. that the videos were determined to be edited and misleading). Now it's YOUR turn to post ANY evidence of ANY legal authority who reviewed the O'Keefe tapes and did NOT conclude that they were heavily edited and/or misleading. So again, it is now YOUR TURN to back up YOUR BS, Grim. Let's see if you run. I'm betting you do.

--part 1--

 

[ultmd]

--part 2--

So, let's be clear, the lawsuit against O'Keefe was for both defamation (his highly-edited videos implicated the ACORN employee in a human trafficking scheme), which resulted in the firing of the ACORN employee, and for illegally recording him without consent. That is simply not arguable. O'Keefe was forced to settle and issue a public apology. The settlement fee exceeded (by about $35K) the amount O'Keefe was paid by Breitbart for conducting the scam. Again, this is all simply not arguable.

Lastly, to summarize:

• In EVERY case in which ACORN was investigated, the findings were consistent:
• ZERO evidence of misuse of funds or illegal activity, including sex trafficking or prostitution, which was (let's not forget) the LIE that O'Keefe was peddling in his fake videos.
• ZERO evidence of misuse of public funds (even the GAO investigation cleared ACORN completely: "no sign the group or related organizations mishandled the $40 million in federal money they received in recent years")
• Another LIE that is overlooked by some (like you) is that O'Keefe appeared on FoxNews claiming that he actually presented himself at ACORN offices in his "pimp suit". That, too, was a LIE.

And you need to address my previous questions. Why did you OMIT so many of the other failed O'Keefe stings? I listed at least 5 in my remarks. You seem to be avoiding them. Why? Might the reason be that you realize now that your argument has fallen apart? If you think you have the "STONE COLD FACTS" on your side, why can't you post ANY links to back up your beliefs, huh?

LOL.

 

[Grim17]

So, clearly...you're either lying, or just clueless due to the fakenews bubble that so many people like you live in.

Regardless, you're WRONG. Your "stone cold facts" are lies that you KNOW you can't back up.

• The ACORN videos were confirmed, by multiple news sources, to be "highly edited" and "misleading". I'll post links, below...but let me see you prove otherwise.
• The "sentiments" were accurate? Says whom? You? Who cares what you think? What a dumb thing to say. The FACT is that the ACORN employee report O'Keefe to the police as soon as he left the office...and was TOLD by the police to keep talking to O'Keefe to gain as much information as possible to share with the police (who were preparing to investigate the fake pimp, O'Keefe on human trafficking, himself). Those are the REAL "stone cold facts".

1. Talk is cheap... Please post a link from any news source that shows any video where an ACORN employee's words were misrepresented due to editing.

2. What those tapes presented as being said by those employees, was exactly what those employees actually said and in context... Nothing was pieced together or manipulated in any way to falsely portray what those workers said and advocated for. Every single ACORN worker's words were presented accurately, which explains why there isn't one example in this entire post that to the contrary.

Now, as for the CLEAR RECORD that the videos were found to be edited and misleading, here are just a few sources:

• The Brooklyn DA's investigation ruled there was ZERO evidence of criminality, and that "They edited the tape to meet their agenda".
• The Kings County DA (NY) investigated and found that "That investigation is now concluded and no criminality has been found.”
• The California A.G. investigated the O'Keefe sting in that state. O'Keefe asked for (and received) criminal (but not civil) immunity in order to avoid prosecution, in exchange for turning over the complete, unedited tapes of his sting. The Cali. A.G. found that " The video releases were heavily edited to feature only the worst or most inappropriate statements of the various ACORN employees and to omit some of the most salient statements by O'Keefe and Giles. Each of the ACORN employees recorded in California was a low level employee whose job was to help the needy individuals who walked in the door seeking assistance. Giles and O'Keefe lied to engender compassion, but then edited their statements from the released videos".
• I could go on (Maryland, etc.) but that's enough to prove my general point (i.e. that the videos were determined to be edited and misleading). Now it's YOUR turn to post ANY evidence of ANY legal authority who reviewed the O'Keefe tapes and did NOT conclude that they were heavily edited and/or misleading. So again, it is now YOUR TURN to back up YOUR BS, Grim. Let's see if you run. I'm betting you do.

--part 1--

1. The Brooklyn DA did not determine that those tapes were deceptively edited to misrepresent what those employees said. Which is why they never cite as much as one example of this taking place.... Just like you can't cite one example of this because it never happened. Prove your BS... Post an example

2. The Kings County DA said nothing about the videos being deceptively edited.

3. Jerry Brown did NOT say that the videos were deceptively edited and misrepresented those employees. He said that they were "edited to feature only the worst or most inappropriate statements of the various ACORN employees".

Once again, Not one the ACORN videos was ever discredited. They accurately portrayed the words and sentiments of every single ACORN employee featured on every one of the videos.

 

[Integrityrespec]

If you promote James O'Keefe, how do you keep his stench off of you? This is at least the third recent thread in reaction to the discredited O'Keefe's latest bomb throwing.

What Project Veritas Is Claiming About Ilhan Omar

Project Veritas has accused Rep. Ilhan Omar's team of engaging in an illegal cash-for-ballots scheme in Minneapolis.

www.newsweek.com

" Newsweek originally reported that Mohamed was an Omar campaign worker. However, a spokesperson for Omar clarified that he does not work for the congresswoman.
.....
An anonymous person, identified as a former Minneapolis political worker, told Project Veritas that Omar's campaign deputy district director Ali Isse Gainey was coordinating ballot harvesting from elderly people in Charles Horn Towers, a housing complex in the city, before the Minnesota primary on August 8.

The same person claimed that women and young people were paid for their ballots during the primary. The cash-for-ballots accusation is unsubstantiated at this time.

Ballot harvesting is not illegal in Minnesota, however. A district court in the state denied a Republican motion to stay a temporary injunction against a law that made it illegal for anyone to help more than three people vote."


A woman approached The Post with dramatic — and false ...
www.washingtonpost.com › investigations › 2017/11/27
A woman who falsely claimed to The Washington Post that Roy Moore, ... James O'Keefe, the Project ...
Nov 27, 2017
Woman's effort to infiltrate The Washington Post dated back ...
www.washingtonpost.com › investigations › 2017/11/29

Nov 29, 2017 - Project Veritas and O'Keefe have declined to say whether she is an employee. But after The Post published its story on Monday, O'Keefe ...

If this is true is needs to be prosecuted. IF there is evidence then the government, led by the FBI should do a thourough in vestication. I fear judging from what we saw from the Obama era FBI and Justice dept that there is a large number of career government employees protecting themselves and their political leanings or at least leaning to a particular candidate that might keep the truth from being pursued.

 

[Grim17]

--part 2--

So, let's be clear, the lawsuit against O'Keefe was for both defamation (his highly-edited videos implicated the ACORN employee in a human trafficking scheme), which resulted in the firing of the ACORN employee, and for illegally recording him without consent. That is simply not arguable. O'Keefe was forced to settle and issue a public apology. The settlement fee exceeded (by about $35K) the amount O'Keefe was paid by Breitbart for conducting the scam. Again, this is all simply not arguable.

Wrong... O'Keefe cites the court documents and other things you've mentioned in the following video:



Watch it and if you disagree than say so... Not watching it means you have no interest in the truth.

Lastly, to summarize:

• In EVERY case in which ACORN was investigated, the findings were consistent:
• ZERO evidence of misuse of funds or illegal activity, including sex trafficking or prostitution, which was (let's not forget) the LIE that O'Keefe was peddling in his fake videos.
• ZERO evidence of misuse of public funds (even the GAO investigation cleared ACORN completely: "no sign the group or related organizations mishandled the $40 million in federal money they received in recent years")
• Another LIE that is overlooked by some (like you) is that O'Keefe appeared on FoxNews claiming that he actually presented himself at ACORN offices in his "pimp suit". That, too, was a LIE.

And you need to address my previous questions. Why did you OMIT so many of the other failed O'Keefe stings? I listed at least 5 in my remarks. You seem to be avoiding them. Why? Might the reason be that you realize now that your argument has fallen apart? If you think you have the "STONE COLD FACTS" on your side, why can't you post ANY links to back up your beliefs, huh?

LOL.

1. Irrelevant... That has nothing to do with what those employees said on those tapes, which you claim were edited and misrepresented them.

2. Irrelevant... That has nothing to do with what those employees said on those tapes, which you claim were edited and misrepresented them.

3. What he wore is the only thing that was deceptive, but had nothing to do with what those employees said on those videotapes. He still presented himself as a pimp and those employees said exactly the things that were depicted on those videos.

Now I'll summarize:

You claimed the ACORN tapes were discredited and had been deceptively edited to misrepresented those employees and their words... That is patently false. The reason I know without a shadow of a doubt that your claims are false, is because you can't produce one example that supports your assertions, or provide one link to any website that had shown any of the deceptive editing you claim took place.

You claim that every one of those ACORN videos was discredited is laughable considering you can't find any example anywhere to support that even one of them had been.

 

[ultmd]

1. Talk is cheap... Please post a link from any news source that shows any video where an ACORN employee's words were misrepresented due to editing.

I've already posted links to various legal entities (DA's, AG's, etc.). Rebut them and then get back to me. You don't dictate any terms of discussion, here. You'll understand that, at some point.

The facts are clear. Your goal here is to obfuscate, clearly. You'll lose. I'll keep bringing you back to the FACTS, which you cannot rebut.

2. What those tapes presented as being said by those employees, was exactly what those employees actually said and in context... Nothing was pieced together or manipulated in any way to falsely portray what those workers said and advocated for. Every single ACORN worker's words were presented accurately, which explains why there isn't one example in this entire post that to the contrary.

"exactly...in context? "Nothing was...manipulated in any way falsely"? WTF do you know about any of that, huh?

You keep saying things you KNOW you can't back up...and the running away when challenged to back them up.

What an utterly moronic thing to say...unless you have direct access to the unedited O'Keefe videos. To my knowledge, the ONLY outside entity that has seen one is the state of California, and their AG dismissed them as "highly edited and misleading". The other organizations that have evaluated various edited O'Keefe ACORN videos are news organizations and networks, whose experts have also noted them to be heavily edited.

But since YOU have declared them to be complete and "in context", it is YOUR duty to back that up....or (at the least) not whine and complain about being called out for LYING when you can't.

1. The Brooklyn DA did not determine that those tapes were deceptively edited to misrepresent what those employees said. Which is why they never cite as much as one example of this taking place.... Just like you can't cite one example of this because it never happened. Prove your BS... Post an example

READ the link and/or stop lying.

Why do you rigtwingers HATE to read? You ask for links, and then you're too lazy to read them when posted. It's like dealing with an 8th grader.

2. The Kings County DA said nothing about the videos being deceptively edited.

More stupidity.

READ the freaking link, and then READ what I posted. I said the Kings County DA concluded there was NOTHING illegal about anything ACORN did. In that case, for example, that means there was NO evidence that ANY employee condoned sex trafficking (which would have been a crime that the DA would prosecute). I quoted the DA's release thusly: "That investigation is now concluded and no criminality has been found.”

3. Jerry Brown did NOT say that the videos were deceptively edited and misrepresented those employees. He said that they were "edited to feature only the worst or most inappropriate statements of the various ACORN employees".

You are LITERALLY cherry picking from the QUOTE I posted in my previous remarks. That ENTIRE quote from the AG report (which I posted for you) is: "The video releases were heavily edited to feature only the worst or most inappropriate statements of the various ACORN employees and to omit some of the most salient statements by O'Keefe and Giles. Each of the ACORN employees recorded in California was a low level employee whose job was to help the needy individuals who walked in the door seeking assistance. Giles and O'Keefe lied to engender compassion, but then edited their statements from the released videos"

Now, I'm sorry, but if that FULL and IN CONTEXT quote doesn't equate with my original summation that the videos were deemed "deceptively edited and misrepresented"...in the minds of extreme, blind-right-wingers like you....you're either not very bright, or not very honest. Those are the only possible conclusions.

--part 1--

 

[ultmd]

--part 2--

Once again, [EVERY ONE OF THE] ACORN videos was ever discredited.

FIFY. You're welcome.

They accurately portrayed the words and sentiments of every single ACORN employee featured on every one of the videos.

Again, just a moronic thing to say, unless you have seen (and are prepared to post) the ENTIRE unedited videos for us here.

Unless you are a James O'Keefe employee...and have direct access to the ENTIRE videos in question... you're just making stuff up and hoping to get away with it.

Clearly, that is not happening for you, here. You people ALWAYS seem to trip yourselves up by confusing the difference between FACTS, and your hardcore emotions and beliefs. This is clearly another such case.

You lose.

And we are STILL waiting for you to address (and debunk) the other FIVE examples of failed O'Keefe fake videos. I haven't forgotten that, either.

 

[joko104]

You're trying to claim that paying $200 for a blank ballot, to be later filled out and turned in, by the purchaser, is "LEGAL"?

Really? It is Legal? That's your claim?

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Yes, it is illegal. It is a crime to sell a ballot. A crime to buy a ballot. That's a no-brainer.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Do you guys think that O'Keefe will go through his entire life earning a living doing this kind of stuff?

Do you think he will earn more doing so than the average Republican?

 

[ultmd]

Wrong... O'Keefe cites the court documents and other things you've mentioned in the following video:

O'Keefe lies in his videos.

You can't post an O'Keefe video to "prove" your opinion about another O'Keefe video. That's just DUMB!

I've quoted the direct words of multiple prosecutors and investigators who have ALL concluded the same thing: that O'Keefe's videos edited and misleading. Your ONLY rebuttal is to post another O'Keefe video in which he exonerates himself???!!!

Watch it and if you disagree than say so... Not watching it means you have no interest in the truth.

Correction. Posting that video means YOU have no interest in the truth.

In fact, posting almost ANYTHING from a conservative media source these days is virtually PROOF that the poster has no interest in the truth.

1. Irrelevant... That has nothing to do with what those employees said on those tapes, which you claim were edited and misrepresented them.
2. Irrelevant... That has nothing to do with what those employees said on those tapes, which you claim were edited and misrepresented them.

LOL, of course they are both relevant facts. They both speak to what I've been saying from step 1....that EVERYTHING O'Keefe does is dishonest and misleading. He is a scam artist, and nothg more. Con artists like him only exist (and thrive) on the Right, where fakenews is king. You may not understand it, but that's not my problem. Honestly, I think you're just a stubborn ideologue, and these kinds of fakenews lies are an essential part of how you justify your politics.

3. What he wore is the only thing that was deceptive, but had nothing to do with what those employees said on those videotapes. He still presented himself as a pimp and those employees said exactly the things that were depicted on those videos.

Well this is progress. You admit that O'Keefe is a scam artist. That's progress!

The fact of the matter is that nothing said in those videos was illegal. Nothing. When reviewed in total, EVERY legal authority reached the same conclusion: that the videos were heavily edited to present a message that was out of context. And the FACT that those employees notified the police IMMEDIATELY after speaking with O'Keefe...proves that point.

But the big point here is that you have FINALLY admitted that O'Keefe is a scam/con artist and a liar. Congrats!

Now I'll summarize:

You claimed the ACORN tapes were discredited and had been deceptively edited to misrepresented those employees and their words... That is patently false. The reason I know without a shadow of a doubt that your claims are false, is because you can't produce one example that supports your assertions, or provide one link to any website that had shown any of the deceptive editing you claim took place.

You claim that every one of those ACORN videos was discredited is laughable considering you can't find any example anywhere to support that even one of them had been.

Now I'll provide the REAL summary:

• EVERY new organization and legal authority that has investigated the entire ACORN scam has concluded that the O'Keefe videos were highly edited and misleading. EVERY ONE.
• I have posted multiple direct links, and quoted directly from them.
• You, on the other hand, have posted ZERO evidence in support of your hardcore, but baseless and discredited OPINIONS.
• Your ONLY "proof" is another O'Keefe video, in which he exonerates himself. And that is just absolutely HILARIOUSLY revealing!
• I have asked you to post ANY such entity (news or legal) that has reached a different conclusions...and you will NOT do it. You won't, because you can't...because you KNOW you're wrong. It's really as simple as that.
• So the only remaining unanswered questions here are:
  • those that I asked previously, and which you've been dodging for the last couple of days (because you know your "facts" are little more than fakenews and opinions, neither or which you can defend, and
  • whether your problem here is one of dishonesty, blind partisanship, or just ignorance.

You're perfectly entitled to your personal opinions, but the above is the REAL summary of this exchange. And until you figure out how to ANSWER my questions and post some LEGITIMATE links from LEGITIMATE news organizations and/or documents....this reality will remain unchanged.

 

[JMR]

There are a few examples of extreme violation of election integrity. Here's one.

New Project Veritas Video: Voter Fraud in Ilhan Omar’s District | National Review

A Somali American whistleblower working in the sheriff’s office helped O’Keefe record evidence of a cash-for-votes scheme.

www.nationalreview.com

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A“ballot broker” boasts about keeping hundreds of absentee ballots in his car trunk. He brags about them being filled in by people other than the voters.
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Common sense and election observers argue against any sudden shift. “Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud,” concluded the bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform, co-chaired by former President Jimmy Carter. Allowing such ballots “increases the risks of fraud and of contested elections.”
<snip>

There is absolutely no reason to think anything from these people is true.

 

[Grim17]

O'Keefe lies in his videos.

etc... etc... etc...

It's very simple....

You said that all the ACORN videos were discredited... That's a lie.
You said that they were edited to misrepresent what the workers said... That's a lie.
You said that the misrepresenting of those workers was established by a court... That's a lie.

Every single one of the ACORN undercover videos are located here, yet you can't point to one instance, on any one of those videos, where through "deceptive editing" a worker's words were misrepresented and they were falsely portrayed. If you can't manage that, then there's nothing left here to discuss.

I am curious though... Don't you feel foolish making claims based on evidence you've never even seen? It's obvious and quite frankly sad, that you have to rely on others to feed you talking points and tell you what to believe... There's a lot of truth out there to be discovered and maybe one day you'll get lucky and figure out how to do your own thinking and find some for yourself.


Good luck to you.