Vaccine Mandates for Welfare, Social Security and Government Pensions?

[VySky]

I can see them trying. As we know, the unvaccinated states if you will have a large draw on welfare.

Want to get veterans to take the jab?

Would tying VA disability checks and government pensions to vaccine status move the needle? Or would it be the last nail in the coffin for the much maligned last act of defiance?

 

[redbeer]

I can see them trying. As we know, the unvaccinated states if you will have a large draw on welfare.

Want to get veterans to take the jab?

Would tying VA disability checks and government pensions to vaccine status move the needle? Or would it be the last nail in the coffin for the much maligned last act of defiance?

Covid 19 has been a political weapon for the left, for they weaponized it to defeat Trump and brainwashed/indoctrinated large portions of America....proof is in the pudding for look at what this Biden administration is doing, dividing it's citizens into groups.....vaccinated vs. unvaccinated.....liberal vs conservative.....left vs right.....and everything else is plain ole racist.

Can't believe Biden is getting away with mandating the vaccine for federal employees, but the scary part is corporate america enforcing the same mandates without a presidential mandate. The media and now corporate america lining up to be political arms of the left is extremely dangerous to the freedom of Americans, point blank.

The left, similar to criminals without the police around are becoming emboldened through all this divisiveness brought to us by Biden. 2022, here we come.....vote these lowlifes out of office.

 

[VySky]

Covid 19 has been a political weapon for the left, for they weaponized it to defeat Trump and brainwashed/indoctrinated large portions of America....proof is in the pudding for look at what this Biden administration is doing, dividing it's citizens into groups.....vaccinated vs. unvaccinated.....liberal vs conservative.....left vs right.....and everything else is plain ole racist.

Can't believe Biden is getting away with mandating the vaccine for federal employees, but the scary part is corporate america enforcing the same mandates without a presidential mandate. The media and now corporate america lining up to be political arms of the left is extremely dangerous to the freedom of Americans, point blank.

The left, similar to criminals without the police around are becoming emboldened through all this divisiveness brought to us by Biden. 2022, here we come.....vote these lowlifes out of office.

Nice ^^^^

 

[The Stars Tremble]

Opposed. Structure it as a fine (say 20% of each check) and I would agree. The difference is that cases of financial need would get protection from a court. Oh, and when it does apply, it's not all at once.

 

[Airyaman]

I can see them trying. As we know, the unvaccinated states if you will have a large draw on welfare.

Want to get veterans to take the jab?

Would tying VA disability checks and government pensions to vaccine status move the needle? Or would it be the last nail in the coffin for the much maligned last act of defiance?

You've got this so much on your brain that now you're creating straw man scenarios to argue against.

Time for you to find some other meaningful hobby. This one is unhealthy.

 

[The Stars Tremble]

You've got this so much on your brain that now you're creating straw man scenarios to argue against.

Time for you to find some other meaningful hobby. This one is unhealthy.

Patronizing advice seems to a recurrent theme on this site. I take it nobody every follows it ..?

 

[Airyaman]

Patronizing advice seems to a recurrent theme on this site. I take it nobody every follows it ..?

This isn't a self help site, no.

 

[Mycroft]

You've got this so much on your brain that now you're creating straw man scenarios to argue against.

Time for you to find some other meaningful hobby. This one is unhealthy.

It's not that much of a strawman when you have people like Fauci saying stuff like this:



Right up there with Obama’s,”You didn’t build that” and Hillary's “It takes a village”. It's classic Fabian Socialism using Alinsky's tactics.

The Fabian Society is a British socialist organisation whose purpose is to advance the principles of social democracy and democratic socialism via gradualist and reformist effort in democracies, rather than by revolutionary overthrow.​

Fabian Society - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be.​

Rules for Radicals - Saul Alinsky

Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky

citizenshandbook.org

​

 

[Port & Starboard]

You've got this so much on your brain that now you're creating straw man scenarios to argue against.

Time for you to find some other meaningful hobby. This one is unhealthy.

The first page of new threads are strawman scenarios.

This one just happened to catch your eye?

 

[Grim17]

Remember, the entire covid19 vaccination crap from democrats is 100% political, so there's no way in hell they would ever do anything to piss off folks on welfare... they're a huge voting block for them.

Why do you think they keep bussing 10's of thousands of illegals all across the country without vaccinating them, and without giving two hoots whether they have covid or not?

Why do you think they don't warn the people who are most at risk from covid19 (the obese, diabetic and elderly) and instead pretend that it's a deadly threat to every man, woman and child in America?

Why do you think they have never suggested simple, inexpensive things, or for that matter anything at all that people can do that might help prevent serious illness should they contract the virus?

Why do you think they pretend that it's the unvaccinated who are responsible for infecting and killing everyone who dies from the virus, when the vaccinated also spread the virus?

Why do you think that before the election democrats like VP Harris said on national TV that they did not trust, and would not take the vaccine, but changed their tune after Biden won election and now demand everyone to take it?

Why do you think Biden said in the same speech, that the chances of a person vaccinated being hospitalized is 1 in 165,000, and also said he was mandating vaccinations for big companies because the vaccinated needed to be protected from the threat posed by the unvaccinated?

It's because it's all pure, partisan politics and has nothing to do with public health. They are using the virus as a means to control the public and the vaccine as a way to dehumanize and discriminate against conservatives, republicans and anyone who doesn't march in lock step with their agenda. They are purposely dividing the nation and they won't stop until the country is dissolved and split into 2 separate nations. At this point I think it's inevitable and states need to start banding together and get this show on the road before things get violent and totally out of hand.

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[Airyaman]

It's not that much of a strawman when you have people like Fauci saying stuff like this:



Right up there with Obama’s,”You didn’t build that” and Hillary's “It takes a village”. It's classic Fabian Socialism using Alinsky's tactics.

The Fabian Society is a British socialist organisation whose purpose is to advance the principles of social democracy and democratic socialism via gradualist and reformist effort in democracies, rather than by revolutionary overthrow.​

Fabian Society - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be.​

Rules for Radicals - Saul Alinsky

Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky

citizenshandbook.org

​

Do you wear a seatbelt? Do you smoke in non-smoking areas? Do you go shirtless and/or shoeless into places that say "shirt and shoes required"? Do you have auto insurance only because most states call for it?

Or do you ignore all of those things because of your own personal "rights"?

 

[Grim17]

Do you wear a seatbelt?

I oppose seat belt laws for adults, but wear a seatbelt for personal safety.

Do you smoke in non-smoking areas?

No, I don't want to pay a hefty fine.

Do you go shirtless and/or shoeless into places that say "shirt and shoes required"?

That applies to businesses and government offices and doesn't mandate that people can't go shoeless and shirtless in public.

Do you have auto insurance only because most states call for it?

Yup, for the most part... Driving is a risk and anyone who can't afford to replace their car or pay for a hospital stay should someone's negligence destroys their car and injures them, should take out a policy to protect themselves.


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[Port & Starboard]

Do you wear a seatbelt? Do you smoke in non-smoking areas? Do you go shirtless and/or shoeless into places that say "shirt and shoes required"? Do you have auto insurance only because most states call for it?

Or do you ignore all of those things because of your own personal "rights"?

Do you ship illegals all around the country without testing and vaccinations?

Do you hand out Covid exemptions to those who claim religion, or political connections?

 

[Mycroft]

Do you wear a seatbelt?

I wore seatbelts before the federal government used the threat of withholding money to force the states to comply with their demands.

Do you smoke in non-smoking areas?

I don't smoke and I don't hang around people who do.

Do you go shirtless and/or shoeless into places that say "shirt and shoes required"?

Believe me...you do NOT want to see my old body shirtless or shoeless.

Do you have auto insurance only because most states call for it?

I buy auto insurance for the same reason I have health insurance: Cost/Benefit.

Or do you ignore all of those things because of your own personal "rights"?

I make all of these decisions because I believe in the right to make personal decisions and I accept the consequences of my decisions.

 

[Airyaman]

Do you ship illegals all around the country without testing and vaccinations?

Do you hand out Covid exemptions to those who claim religion, or political connections?

Dis you?

 

[Airyaman]

I wore seatbelts before the federal government used the threat of withholding money to force the states to comply with their demands.


I don't smoke and I don't hang around people who do.


Believe me...you do NOT want to see my old body shirtless or shoeless.


I buy auto insurance for the same reason I have health insurance: Cost/Benefit.


I make all of these decisions because I believe in the right to make personal decisions and I accept the consequences of my decisions.

OK, name me something you don't want to abide by (because it is not your personal choice) but do it anyway because of rules or laws.

 

[Mycroft]

OK, name me something you don't want to abide by (because it is not your personal choice) but do it anyway because of rules or laws.

Federal tax withholding.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Remember, the entire covid19 vaccination crap from democrats is 100% political

Statewide, Texas students in kindergarten-12th grade are required to be vaccinated against:

• Diphtheria/tetanus/pertussis
• Polio
• Measles/mumps/rubella
• Hepatitis A and B and
• Varicella
• After a student turns 11, they are required to be vaccinated against meningococcal meningitis.

 

[Airyaman]

Federal tax withholding.

That's not really in your control. Got another one? Something you have some control over.

 

[Mycroft]

That's not really in your control. Got another one? Something you have some control over.

Oh. Now you are talking about "control". That's what I was talking about, too, when I was disputing your contention to the OP about "straw man".

 

[The AntiDonald]

Covid 19 has been a political weapon for the left, for they weaponized it to defeat Trump and brainwashed/indoctrinated large portions of America....proof is in the pudding for look at what this Biden administration is doing, dividing it's citizens into groups.....vaccinated vs. unvaccinated.....liberal vs conservative.....left vs right.....and everything else is plain ole racist.

Can't believe Biden is getting away with mandating the vaccine for federal employees, but the scary part is corporate america enforcing the same mandates without a presidential mandate. The media and now corporate america lining up to be political arms of the left is extremely dangerous to the freedom of Americans, point blank.

The left, similar to criminals without the police around are becoming emboldened through all this divisiveness brought to us by Biden. 2022, here we come.....vote these lowlifes out of office.

I would argue that dead Americans are more dangerous to the freedoms of Americans. Just for the record, I am vaccinated and have not lost any freedoms. I have, however, gained an advantage to living the rest of my life over the unvaccinated people. These right wing arguments about freedumbs just don't fly.

 

[TheParser]

Oh, YES!

That is one reason that I got vaccinated in August.

I would not put it past them to do anything to force 100% vaccination.

I am sure that those 80,000,000 Americans who voted for the Democrats last year are thrilled by the possibility of such a mandate.

 

[Grim17]

Statewide, Texas students in kindergarten-12th grade are required to be vaccinated against:

• Diphtheria/tetanus/pertussis
• Polio
• Measles/mumps/rubella
• Hepatitis A and B and
• Varicella
• After a student turns 11, they are required to be vaccinated against meningococcal meningitis.

What do those fully tested, safe and fully effective vaccines have to do with anything?

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[CaughtInThe]

What do those fully tested, safe and fully effective vaccines have to do with anything?

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They are mandated by Texas to save the lives of Texans AND Americans.

 

[redbeer]

I would argue that dead Americans are more dangerous to the freedoms of Americans. Just for the record, I am vaccinated and have not lost any freedoms. I have, however, gained an advantage to living the rest of my life over the unvaccinated people. These right wing arguments about freedumbs just don't fly.

Yeah right.......Dr. Fauci says illegal immigrants crossing our borders are not bringing Covid virus, and the democrats voted to not pass a law which would make all migrants to be tested.....wtf is this bs? If it was done across the board faithfully, it would be different, but we all know why the left are bringing the illegal migrants into this country, for now they are wanting to pass a law which would let all illegal migrants have the right to vote......these are some of the most corrupt people ever witnessed.