Bs! It should be in a place that is easily accessible, as time may be essential.Sanctity of a bedroom? interesting idea.....
A gun should not be in a nightstand drawer...
Bs! It should be in a place that is easily accessible, as time may be essential.
That he had a right to do it and it was ok because it would make his school and friends safer. NOT.
How about gun safety in a violent video game. XD
It would have to hidden somehow to keep the fun factor, but I would laugh at the sight of it.
The thought to protect others is noble. Do you deny that?Noble, really.
Go for it. Get yourself infracted. I don't mind.Noble to threaten other children with it. I have to stop myself from being infracted here! :rofl
Guns can be dangerous in anybodies hands. But some eleven year olds are more than capable of handling them properly. Better than some adults even.You and I will continue to disagree. I won't change your mind, but I have certainly cemented my own thinking. And, your position reminds me that some gun owners are completely out of touch with the reality that guns are dangerous weapons in the hands of children.
Gee, just as we were getting along spectacularly, you want to go and make me feel insulted.Edit: Oh! And my children are not allowed to play at your house.
doesn't that also make it easily accessible to children, as may have been the circumstance in instant case
Shouldn't matter if it is.
The kid should know to stay out of their parents bedroom and not touch stuff that he isn't allowed to.
That should be sufficient.
The kid is applying an adult concept when it is inappropriate for a kid. He should know the difference.
It's the powerranger concept... should those teenagers start shooting and killing bad guys even though it's the right thing to do and they have the power to do so? No... but they do it anyway, even though it's inappropriate for a random group of teenagers to do such things.
It's not appropriate for children to do this, because of obvious lack of maturity/skill/discipline.
You mean like in Australia where homicide rates are at all time lows?
So basically the argument is that we should restrict the availability of guns so people can't as easily make a decision with their own life. Yeah, that argument is horrible. The argument of impulse suicide while interesting doesn't really change that you are making an argument meant to solely make them make a decision you want when its their life we are dealing with.
••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••Not really. If someone kicks the door down, at least we'll have a fighting chance. I'm not interested in delegating my family's safety to others. That is my job.
Biometric controls especially if the intruder is familier with the system used can be bipassed fairly easy. I dont use them because of that. I use electronic security in combination with mechanical security.
They are either locked or on my hip. My heavy artillery is locked up seprate from power supplies that take some time to install. Anything I have to deal with that requires their use I will know about with advanced warning, and any idiot wont be able to assemble it and use it. My rifles and personal arms are locked in a gun safes with the munitions stored in a blast rated safes. My pistols are with me or near me with rare exception and there is a safe for them on the rare occasion I am without them.
Shouldn't matter if it is.
The kid should know to stay out of their parents bedroom and not touch stuff that he isn't allowed to.
That should be sufficient.
So you are arguing that preventing a disturbed young adult from committing suicide is infringing on his right to bear arms?
You live in another world and one I wouldn't want to even visit.
No. I'm saying your argument is basically people kill themselves and we have the duty to stop them from doing with their life as they see fit. You never establish how or why this duty exists, but instead its just a given and because of this unexplained duty you have given yourself you think it's best to take away their tools for doing it.
Because it saves lives. Something that is apparently not a good thing in your mind.
The lie that guns make you safe must be debunked and owners need to lock up their weapons or else. There is no excuse for allowing a minor to use your gun without your knowledge and supervision EVER. Anything a child does with their parents guns should be treated the same as if the gun owner did it all by himself.
this is assuming that all life is precious..... the people who made today's paper in Phoenix for killing a childBecause it saves lives. Something that is apparently not a good thing in your mind. The lie that guns make you safe must be debunked and owners need to lock up their weapons or else. There is no excuse for allowing a minor to use your gun without your knowledge and supervision EVER. Anything a child does with their parents guns should be treated the same as if the gun owner did it all by himself.
I hope I have the right when my time comes. But it won't be done with a gun, too messy. Stage 5 Parkinson's isn't my idea of living.Do we not have a right to end our own life? I would say yes we do, but apparently you disagree.
That has nothing to do with our talk we are having.
I tell ya, all of these nut jobs are coming out of the woodwork.
His parents should do some time for this if the gun was found to come from the home.
Ohh, and this doesnt surprise me coming from "UTAH".
I don't think he's a "nut job". I think he's an 11-year old child who is very scared.
A sixth-grade Utah boy was in police custody late Monday after bringing a handgun to school, reportedly so that he could defend himself in the event of an attack, Granite School District officials said.
"He has alluded in his defense that he brought it as a way to defend himself and his friends if there was a Connecticut-style incident at the school," district spokesman Ben Horsley said.
Chart means nothing with no numeric information at all.
Do we not have a right to end our own life? I would say yes we do, but apparently you disagree.
That has nothing to do with our talk we are having.
this is assuming that all life is precious..... the people who made today's paper in Phoenix for killing a child
that was in their daycare don't deserve to live. The other couple that scalded a child with hot water for wetting her pants don't deserve to live. The child was burned so bad she needs skin grafts.
Not all life is worth protecting. These people deserve hard time in the general population of some prison where there are plenty of lifers with nothing to lose.
I hope I have the right when my time comes. But it won't be done with a gun, too messy. Stage 5 Parkinson's isn't my idea of living.
Do you think a sane person would end his own life?
What does that have to do with disturbed young kids who have the impulse to shoot themselves? 75% of child/young adult suicides are committed with the parents guns.
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