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USA not 1/1000th of the way through the Pandemic.

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Even by the most generous of estimates for number who will be infected, and death-rate, America is not yet 1/1000th of the way through this Pandemic.

The WHO estimates the expected death rate to be 2%: Coronavirus Mortality Rate (COVID-19) - Worldometer

This is not at all what we are seeing in Italy, or world-wide. World-wide we have 38K dead / 167K recovered. So, the Death-rate is running around 23% so far:

Coronavirus Dashboard

But, let's be optimistic, and call it 2%.

Some sources are saying 70% of Americans will eventually get Corona, but, let's be optimistic, and say just 50% will get it.

There are 325 Million in America: Population Clock

So...

325 * 0.7 * 0.02 = 4.5 Million Dead before it is done.

So far, we only have 3180, or close to it, dead.

3180 / 4.5 M = 7.0e-4 = 0.0007 of the way to the expected outcome. IF it were 0.001 or greater, we would be 1/1000th of the way there.

It is likely to be over by Fall of next year or 18 Months. 4.5M / 18 = 250K per month = 8928 per day. Since a bunch of days have already passed with a much lower rate, it will increase to huge numbers at its peak.

When this thing gets moving, it is going to kill 10s of Thousands a day!

And that is with a very cheery, and not very realistic estimate.

Unless.... UNLESS!.... an effective and mass manufacture-able treatment can be found!

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~ We may already be at the peak of infection. The U.S. has done a good job of containment in spite of the delay caused by China withholding facts.
 
~ We may already be at the peak of infection. The U.S. has done a good job of containment in spite of the delay caused by China withholding facts.

And your evidence for "Good Containment" is...?

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During the peak of this pandemic, we can expect to have the equivalent number of dead to 911, as often as 3-4 times per day, for several months.
 
I was amazed in how people came dressed to the Grocery Store as if nothing was happening. No Gloves, No Mask and moving about as they would otherwise. One person had a small child on his shoulder, with only a diaper pants on and a baby tee shirt.

I had on a full Tyvek Suit, with 1/2 Face Mask, and Gloves. Someone made an adverse comment, but I had no concern about their comment. They don't know me, nor do I know where they have been, what they have done or if they are a carrier of the virus or not.

Many ignore very simple things, "of how long the virus lives on surfaces and in the air as people pass one another". Besides, it was far more than 10 or 20 people in the store..

I watched on woman, pick up 4 different loaf's of bread and put them back. People push their baskets right past each other without far less than 6 ft...

I do think many may have some idea that they are somehow "immune" or "it won't happen to me" attitudes. I've seen people "Go to Church", as if they think they can't get infected.

God gave mankind the ability to think, to reason, develop understanding and to use the wisdom that is connected through such things... so for me, if one is to have faith within what and how they do things, then have it for, with, by and through the usage of these gifts that are given to each person. (For those who believe) Have Faith in God, that is the first step... but step two is the things I mentioned above.... Step three... is to know it is not just about oneself, it is about each other and all of us.

"The Dare Mentality" does not give anyone an immunity to anything. One should consider the impact on others if they are themselves infected.
 
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Even by the most generous of estimates for number who will be infected, and death-rate, America is not yet 1/1000th of the way through this Pandemic.

The WHO estimates the expected death rate to be 2%: Coronavirus Mortality Rate (COVID-19) - Worldometer

This is not at all what we are seeing in Italy, or world-wide. World-wide we have 38K dead / 167K recovered. So, the Death-rate is running around 23% so far:

Coronavirus Dashboard

But, let's be optimistic, and call it 2%.

Some sources are saying 70% of Americans will eventually get Corona, but, let's be optimistic, and say just 50% will get it.

There are 325 Million in America: Population Clock

So...

325 * 0.7 * 0.02 = 4.5 Million Dead before it is done.

So far, we only have 3180, or close to it, dead.

3180 / 4.5 M = 7.0e-4 = 0.0007 of the way to the expected outcome. IF it were 0.001 or greater, we would be 1/1000th of the way there.

It is likely to be over by Fall of next year or 18 Months. 4.5M / 18 = 250K per month = 8928 per day. Since a bunch of days have already passed with a much lower rate, it will increase to huge numbers at its peak.

When this thing gets moving, it is going to kill 10s of Thousands a day!

And that is with a very cheery, and not very realistic estimate.

Unless.... UNLESS!.... an effective and mass manufacture-able treatment can be found!

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WHO is a Chinese lacky! They haven't held China accountable for ****! **** the WHO.
 
WHO is a Chinese lacky! They haven't held China accountable for ****! **** the WHO.
WHO is a health organization. They have no desire nor responsibility to hold anyone accountable for a disease. They are there to research and provide information on diseases, give assistance to all countries affected, and do their best to prevent or control or to help countries do so.

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I was amazed in how people came dressed to the Grocery Store as if nothing was happening. No Gloves, No Mask and moving about as they would otherwise. One person had a small child on his shoulder, with only a diaper pants on and a baby tee shirt.

I had on a full Tyvek Suit, with 1/2 Face Mask, and Gloves. Someone made an adverse comment, but I had no concern about their comment. They don't know me, nor do I know where they have been, what they have done or if they are a carrier of the virus or not.

Many ignore very simple things, "of how long the virus lives on surfaces and in the air as people pass one another". Besides, it was far more than 10 or 20 people in the store..

I watched on woman, pick up 4 different loaf's of bread and put them back. People push their baskets right past each other without far less than 6 ft...

I do think many may have some idea that they are somehow "immune" or "it won't happen to me" attitudes. I've seen people "Go to Church", as if they think they can't get infected.

God gave mankind the ability to think, to reason, develop understanding and to use the wisdom that is connected through such things... so for me, if one is to have faith within what and how they do things, then have it for, with, by and through the usage of these gifts that are given to each person. (For those who believe) Have Faith in God, that is the first step... but step two is the things I mentioned above.... Step three... is to know it is not just about oneself, it is about each other and all of us.

"The Dare Mentality" does not give anyone an immunity to anything. One should consider the impact on others if they are themselves infected.

If you are going to the trouble of wearing a Tyvek suit go whole hog and wear a full respirator.
 
WHO is a health organization. They have no desire nor responsibility to hold anyone accountable for a disease. They are there to research and provide information on diseases, give assistance to all countries affected, and do their best to prevent or control or to help countries do so.

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Well thats a sic burn without even trying :)
 
WHO is a Chinese lacky! They haven't held China accountable for ****! **** the WHO.

~ I sure looks like you are correct. For more evidence just read about the guy that's in charge. Scary ...
UN & EU are no better .
 
If you are going to the trouble of wearing a Tyvek suit go whole hog and wear a full respirator.

I do what works for me. For me, its no trouble because the moments it takes to prepare myself, is far better than the situations that result in hospitalization or death. I have no denials about the severity of this virus. It's not my expectations for anyone else to protect me, if I have failed to do the best of what I can, based on what I'm capable and able to provide for myself.
I also, make sure our employees and my family stays focus and I share Information.

Anyone else can choose their options... I would hope they are careful to invest in getting what they feel works best for them.

I also have N95 Mask which I use when I go in "small businesses" or such.
 
Even by the most generous of estimates for number who will be infected, and death-rate, America is not yet 1/1000th of the way through this Pandemic.

The WHO estimates the expected death rate to be 2%: Coronavirus Mortality Rate (COVID-19) - Worldometer

This is not at all what we are seeing in Italy, or world-wide. World-wide we have 38K dead / 167K recovered. So, the Death-rate is running around 23% so far:

Coronavirus Dashboard

But, let's be optimistic, and call it 2%.

Some sources are saying 70% of Americans will eventually get Corona, but, let's be optimistic, and say just 50% will get it.

There are 325 Million in America: Population Clock

So...

325 * 0.7 * 0.02 = 4.5 Million Dead before it is done.

So far, we only have 3180, or close to it, dead.

3180 / 4.5 M = 7.0e-4 = 0.0007 of the way to the expected outcome. IF it were 0.001 or greater, we would be 1/1000th of the way there.

It is likely to be over by Fall of next year or 18 Months. 4.5M / 18 = 250K per month = 8928 per day. Since a bunch of days have already passed with a much lower rate, it will increase to huge numbers at its peak.

When this thing gets moving, it is going to kill 10s of Thousands a day!

And that is with a very cheery, and not very realistic estimate.

Unless.... UNLESS!.... an effective and mass manufacture-able treatment can be found!

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Don't worry, I'm on the job!

I ran some numbers yesterday and at the rate deaths in the US are increasing we should see the death of the last American on April 13th or 14th and the death of the last person on earth by the 29th or 30th.
 
Don't worry, I'm on the job!

I ran some numbers yesterday and at the rate deaths in the US are increasing we should see the death of the last American on April 13th or 14th and the death of the last person on earth by the 29th or 30th.

That's not the number's I'm getting.

Anything can happen, with the advent of a vaccine, or a cheap, mass manufactured medication.

And Anything can happen, like it did in 1918, with the virus mutating in a much more deadly form.

... Or Both!

But, right now, it is looking like the U.S. will lose between 4-12 Million people.

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~ I sure looks like you are correct. For more evidence just read about the guy that's in charge. Scary ...
UN & EU are no better .

Hey, you know who pays their bills? China and the US; they need to be our lacky. :lol:
 
WHO is a health organization. They have no desire nor responsibility to hold anyone accountable for a disease. They are there to research and provide information on diseases, give assistance to all countries affected, and do their best to prevent or control or to help countries do so.

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They didn't question any of China's questionable data nor their projections. China has be lying; 81,000 cases/3300 dead out of 1.5B people.........yeah sure. :roll: And they're hoarding 2B N95 masks and other supplies.
 
They didn't question any of China's questionable data nor their projections. China has be lying; 81,000 cases/3300 dead out of 1.5B people.........yeah sure. :roll: And they're hoarding 2B N95 masks and other supplies.
They've been selling masks to us and others this whole time. They certainly shouldn't sell all theirs if they are lying and their numbers are much higher.

It isnt like our government doesn't lie and bend the truth even about this. We really dont know how many have the virus in our country because we haven't been able to test "anybody who wants a test" until maybe recently, and even that is in only certain places. And we know he has focused on the numbers rather than actually helping people, giving people real confidence. He is not just the President of those who worship him.

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They've been selling masks to us and others this whole time. They certainly shouldn't sell all theirs if they are lying and their numbers are much higher.

It isnt like our government doesn't lie and bend the truth even about this. We really dont know how many have the virus in our country because we haven't been able to test "anybody who wants a test" until maybe recently, and even that is in only certain places. And we know he has focused on the numbers rather than actually helping people, giving people real confidence. He is not just the President of those who worship him.

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They got those masks from all over the world, they didn't make them. There's a reason they're doing that.
 
They got those masks from all over the world, they didn't make them. There's a reason they're doing that.
Because 3 weeks ago plus the rest of the world put pressure on them to sell those masks they were hoarding.

The World Needs Masks. China Makes Them, but Has Been Hoarding Them. - The New York Times

And both Obama and Trump were warned of the potential for this very situation.

Face Masks: Not Enough Are Made In America To Deal With Coronavirus : Shots - Health News : NPR

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Because 3 weeks ago plus the rest of the world put pressure on them to sell those masks they were hoarding.

The World Needs Masks. China Makes Them, but Has Been Hoarding Them. - The New York Times

And both Obama and Trump were warned of the potential for this very situation.

Face Masks: Not Enough Are Made In America To Deal With Coronavirus : Shots - Health News : NPR

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They bought a bunch from Australia, I just read an article yesterday that they are shipping masks to China. There's a reason, but you're apologizing for them. Would you like to go ahead and tell us how the virus is good, or not China's fault? FFS when are you lefties going to stand up for US? Trump is trying to bring manufacturing back, maybe you should get off your ass and help him, instead of trying to impeach him during a pandemic? Trump was warned? Is that all you have to say after the obstructionist **** show that's gone on by the Democrats for 3 years? I just can't take it anymore. SMH
 
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