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US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti


Hell. I got no beef with the Israelis. They've always been tops in my book. Unlike some countries, who constantly piss and moan about how crappy the US is...
 
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well it has impressed this elitist European **** for one, thank you Mr Obama, we will remember you and your peoples noble deed.

You're not any of the following:

a. An elitist.
b. A ****.
c. Part of a cabal.
 

Whatever Petey. Then don't debate me. Like I said, I could care less about your opinion. It means absolutely nothing to me. I hope the rest of America feels the same way.
 
Newsflash! "Right-wingers" are Americans, too, and, no, I'm not a right-winger.

Newsflash you are. You claim to be a libertarian.. they are right wing.

And yes right wingers are Americans too, but they are not all Americans and far from it.

I'm an agnostic pro-choicer who favors drug and prostitution legalization and gay marriage. What do you think?

And you call yourself a Libertarian? :rofl

Actually, you're right. There's nothing funny about how little aid the EU sent. It's just sad.

And you have no clue on how the EU aid system works.

There's these things, they're called boats and planes. I think France has some...

yea and? How you think the 400 French you claim got there? And what is this crazy focus on the French always.. gezz. Russia is larger than France and they sent less.. how about China? Why not go after them?

There was a devastating earthquake that destroyed Haiti's capital city and killed multiple thousands of people. They are largely without shelter, food, medicine, and clean water.

Is that clear enough for you?

And where do you send the money? Who should get priority.. red cross, UN? What is needed? Money, men or materials? Where is it needed? The money donated by the UN is in the system.. it is gone poof.. given to the UN.

Is that clear enough for you?

Don't forget to fill it up with air.

Eh? what on earth are you babbling about? You do know what it is right?

Got a link?

http://ocha.unog.ch/fts/reports/daily/ocha_R10_E15797_asof___1001161249.pdf

Look for Denmark.

And as you can see there is still 45million dollars of the US 100 million that has not been allocated.


then stop acting like one by defending the few undefendable heartless morons on the right.
 
Whatever Petey. Then don't debate me. Like I said, I could care less about your opinion. It means absolutely nothing to me. I hope the rest of America feels the same way.

I would gladly debate you if you stuck to the topic and facts, but you dont. You use half truths and falsehoods to attack those in the world that you genetically hate.. aka France and the EU. Then you attack me for pointing out the obvious about the hypocrisy and heartlessness of parts of right wing America. That can only mean you agree fully with what Rush and Pat Roberston said on this.. and that sir is pathetic attitude.

You have also used the classic trick of claiming that if someone attacks one American then one is attacking all Americans. It is usually used by right wingers to derail a thread.. it was used under Bush and it is being used today when the left or others attack certain personalities on the right.. Palin, Rush and so on. And it only helps that the person being critical is not American.. i am just waiting for American to come in and start saying I have no right to discuss things involving America.. oh wait you have already done that.. another classic move when right on these boards are loosing a debate.

It is funny how even when you agree with me that the US is to be commended in its response then you cant stop being the arrogant nationalist chest thumping right winger you are by taking a swipe at others and claiming your own superiority over others.. pathetic attitude.

Have a good day.
 
Was America in the best position to bear the overwhelming burden over Bosnia and Kosovo? Being in the best "position" has had absolutely nothing to do with anything in the past, but the convenience of it now is suppose to comfort who?

Firstly hats off to all involved (even the IDF )but I but i don't think its fair to say America bore a disproportionate burden in Bosnia and Kosovo. Look at who was actually putting troops on the ground (and thus in harms way). The N.A.T.O bombing campaign helped as far as Bosnia was concerned but it came at very little cost. The same goes for Darfur etc. Its normally Scandinavia Ireland, and the Low Countries that send a disproportionate amount of troops.
 
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Where are the troops from Europe?
 
Where are the troops from Europe?

Europe cant really work like that at the moment.The european union is a bureucracy its impotent to act in emergencies.That doesent mean Europeans dont care.Its the same reason europe was unable to deal with kosovo.
 
I think we could help save a few lives over there to.
 
Europe cant really work like that at the moment.The european union is a bureucracy its impotent to act in emergencies.That doesent mean Europeans dont care.Its the same reason europe was unable to deal with kosovo.

What a load of utter bull****.

First off the European emergency aid goes through the individual countries not the EU. There are many reasons for this but the primary is that it is much faster for individual countries to donate what they can than call a meeting to agree on what the EU should do. This is by design btw not some bureaucratic excuse. The individual countries have always wanted to be in full control of what emergency aid they can give.

Secondly .. Europe was unable to deal with Kosovo? How so? Explain.
 
They have been there since 2004. I could ask where are the American Troops in Darfur.
Good call.
 

Exactly.

It was NATO who bombed Serbia in both situations. It was US, and British, and French and other nations air-forces that did the bombing.

When the Serbians finally gave in, the peacekeeping (yes there was very little combat) forces on the ground first were in both cases the Europeans. The British and French were the first in Kosovo and Bosnia leading the "charge" to take on peacekeeping operations.
 
we're going to see horrible human suffering in haiti in the next months and years due to its total lack of infrastructure and its political chaos

we're going to get sucked in like an oreck, we're essentially going to occupy the country

and our economy simply cannot handle the strain

there's no way out

so much sadness, all around
 
Oh look the fool who opened with a broadly ignorant and generalized stereotype is of a sudden wanting to be taken seriously. Problem is that as you try to be taken seriously you are lying out yer arse, but by all means post the words "I say again" as you say something for the first time. I was responding to the juvenile moronic stereotyping that is by now a trademark of the PeteEU pose, you're trying to spin out of that idiocy and guess what? It ain't working for you, as the last few pages of posing and spinning have displayed. Act like a hack and guess what? You get recognized as such.

Seriously, why do you bother to breathe?
 
Newsflash you are. You claim to be a libertarian.. they are right wing.

Sorry, but "right-winger" does not mean, "Anyone who disagrees with PeteEU."

Libertarians are socially liberal or leftist, which means they are not right-wingers. Anyone with a cursory understanding of Americans politics should know this.

And you call yourself a Libertarian? :rofl

Yes, I call myself a libertarian. Maybe you just don't know what a libertarian is.


Excuses are like assholes...
 

Nice speech. Too bad it has no credibility with any American on this board, right-wing or otherwise.

I also find it telling that anyone who disagrees with your politics must be a "right-winger" who supports Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson. Your infantile insistence on labeling anyone who is critical of your beloved EU is an indication of your partisan narrow-mindedness, something we here at DP have come to expect from you.
 
I think it's great that we are sending troops. It's a hell of a lot better than using them for war. I believe that from every bad there comes some good. The country has been in shambles for years due to corruption and enviremental diasasters. Only two per cent of it's forests were left because the people used the trees for heat and cooking. Also, the rest of the world could care less about the Haitain people.

The good that will come from this is that maybe the disaster killed some of the despots. With all of the attention and international aid they may be able to start over and turn their country into a more prosperous place.

I must say, by watching videos of the disaster, that the Hatian people are behaving better than our own people during Katrina.

Here are some interesting videos of the calamity done by an alternate media group.

Raw Video, Earthquake Aftermath Haiti: Raw Video of Haiti Victims | NowPublic News Coverage
 
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Where are the troops from Europe?

The leader from Haiti has not requested any troops from Europe.

There are a lot of aid and rescue workers from other countries besides us.

Iceland was there from the first day I believe and even china is sending aid.

I think they ought to send a bill to France, though for their former imperialism.:roll:
 
Sorry, but to the people that are making this in to a political shot they need to get a heart.

This is tragic disaster, that many have died in not only is it wrong but it completely uncalled for. Thanks to the IDF, for sending the much need supplies over there.


People, from all over are helping not just the americans. I am glad that we are sending troops over their to help.
 
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Sorry, but to the people that are making this in to a political shot they need to get a heart.

What do you mean by this? This is a political forum, after all, and foreign aid is a political issue. Just because some people are hurt or suffering doesn't mean we're obligated to help them (just look at Darfur if you don't believe me). It's an ideological stance, and I feel like it needs to be discussed. The expectations and double-standards in regards to the United States are detrimental to the security and prosperity of our country.
 

Turkey too if you want to count it as European.
 

I can and will be pissed at people for taking a political stance on something like this. However, I can call out the hypocrisy on all sides on this. In other words, your being a bit of a partisan saying we're taking all the burden when everyone is help as best they can.
 
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