DeeJayH
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i am sorry but i know you are not ignorant of the sonic weapons designed for a variety of reasons including boat defenseIn some cases, they are carrying highly explosive or flammable cargo (like oil)...it wouldn't be good to have gunfire around that. But in the cases where they aren't, I think a lot of the ships do carry weapons.
Isn't the more pressing problem - Is it legal for any army to enter the territorial waters of another without prior permission from the governing body of a country? [Somalia has a recognised President remember]
Does the Somali government have any real control outside of Mogadishu? Somalia's situation today is not that unlike China's in the late 1910s and early 1920s. Warlords in control of the country and a "recognized" government in control of little more than the capital.
Those pirates are terrorists who work for a profit.
Quit defending them.
Oh come on don't be absurd. That guy who robs your house is a "terrorist" with a crow-bar, is he?:roll:
Seriously French women? You've never been to France have you. French women are hot!
You Americans and your stereotypes lol. I suppose everyone in Britain have bad teeth as well?
In other words, you're more interested in killing the pirates than in actually rescuing the hostage. :roll:
And what about the 99.9% of the pirates who don't frequent that particular part of the coast and/or don't see the bodies before the locals remove them? :roll:
That's like saying 1 in 3 Americans are obese....o **** that's true
Paul
Life is a little bit more complicated then a ****ty 1990s movie.
Rescued merchant ship captain grateful to US Navy
"I'm just the byline. The heroes are the Navy, the Seals and those that have brought me home," the shipping captain told his boss, Maersk Line Limited President and CEO John Reinhart, who relayed the phone message to reporters hours after Phillips was liberated Sunday from his captors' clutches aboard a lifeboat.
So now do you want to reconsider your post? :lol:
One standoff with pirates has already been resolved. The French killed them and rescued 4 hostages, although a fifth one died. In the other standoff, US naval ships have surrounded the pirates who are holding the commander of the Maersk Alabama.
Interesting development. We like to call the French cheese eating surrender monkeys, but the French took no prisoners today. They kicked ass. I think we had better be doing the same, or there will be plenty of American surrender jokes in France. I don't know about you, but I would like to continue the time-honored tradition of making fun of the French, and do not want the tables turned. LOL. :mrgreen:
Article is here.
Barney Frank has submitted a bill to tax their ransom. :mrgreen:Seeing the OP, I thought it was an April Fool's joke.
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Really? Since when do we live by that principle? We aren't talking about al-Qaeda here, we're talking about common criminals.
Seriously French women? You've never been to France have you. French women are hot!
Ron Paul suggests bounty hunting!
http://www.debatepolitics.com/Death...ff-pirates-bounty-hunters.html#post1057991940
Good idea!
blackwater may have just found more contract laborInteresting!
I am not sure if armed civilians attacking pirates will do anything but make the situation worse.
It'll be like Blackwater --- only at sea!
You would be the one to bring Hollywood into this. It's very liberal.Life is a little bit more complicated then a ****ty 1990s movie.
Looks like Obama has turned us into France, and Srakozy has turned France into US. x(
Because the government is barely in control of the capital city, let alone the country side. Last I heard the government had just arrived back to the country after years of exile and months on months (if not over a year) after the religious fanatics were kicked out of power by an Ethiopian invasion.
So the US/west is in a loose loose situation. Sure they can go in with full force, into a hostile area costing many many lives and maybe kill a few pirates, but it wont put them out of business. Only a brutal occupation can do that. What they in turn get are pissed off locals that will join forces with the "enemy of my enemy".. which is Al Q and the islamic extremists, and that is exactly what we dont want... rather have the pirates to be honest. Such action will also weaken the very very weak government in Somalia.. Now the government could ask for western assistance, but that would also weaken them considerably in the eyes of the very people that they want to trust them.. the Somalis, which in turn plays right into the hands of the religious extremists backed by Al Q.
Now the US/west can do what they are doing now, trying to fight off the pirates at sea, in international waters. However this plays bad to especially the gun hoarding shoot first ask questions never right wing of the right wing in many western countries. It also some what strengthens the pirates grip on the local population and in fact draws more and more into the pirate game, since it is profitable. It is also a propaganda coup to the pirates as we have seen, drawing more and more to the cause.
It is ironic that it was the islamic extremist AL Q backed government that kept the pirates down to a manageable size back in the day and since they are gone, the problem has exploded.
The US/west are damned if they do, damned if they dont.
And for the record.. Big Danish container ship is hard to "retake" from pirates, where as a small French yacht is a rather simple task, relatively speaking. The amount of space special forces have to cover to secure a ship of that size ... mind boggling. And there is plenty of places on a container ship where the pirates can set up kill zones and traps and in the end any time wasted means a bullet closer to a hostage head.
And it is not the first time the French have hit back at pirates in this way and they have zero tolerance plus the legal means.. as they are one of the nations that have universal jurisdiction on things like war crimes, crimes against humanity and high seas piracy.
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