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US Must Split Into 2 Seperate Nations (Red & Blue)

If that's what they try then yes they are traitors just like Trump and his minions on 1/6.

You are just trying to talk us into traitorous crap. There is no way for you to make it not traitorous and stupid.
I'm beginning to sense why there is so much (unexplained) opposition to the ide of the US splitting into 2 seperate nations. Interestingly, all the opposition seems to be coming from the left, when the idea is equally shared by left & right. so it is the left who doesn't want us righties to leave them. Ah, they love us so much.

Those on the right, aren't commenting other than a few positive affirmations. Maybe the leftists, deep down inside them, know that their policies are nuts, and are destroying the country, and if they went on their own, without us conservatives to be a braking system for them, they would go whole hog on all their bonkers agenda, and what would be left, would be an unrepairable total mess (like what Biden is creating right now) Yeah, the idea of a blue USA is pretty frightening indeed. :rolleyes:
 
I started in the OP. Nothing idiotic about people moving based on differing qualities of life in different places. I've done it a number of times during my life, and people are doing it more than ever right now. I would say you're uninformed, but I g=ave informed you in this thread. You just don't get it. Not my problem.

HAHA. The reason it was made in Asia, is because 4 idiot US presidents before Trump gave China unrestricted access to our massive/lucrative MARKET, for nor reason at all. When you have a huge advantage, you don't give it away to your competitor. Pretty odd that we had to wait 30 year for Donald Trump to come around and say "wait a minute. WE are holding the cards, not them"

To make this more sad, is that you've gone on for 20+ pages here, and still are as clueless as when you first started. and regarding your conception of international economics, you'd probably trade a new Rolls Royce for a 1985 Plymouth.
Again.....your premise has zero basis in reality.
 
HAHA. The reason it was made in Asia, is because 4 idiot US presidents before Trump gave China unrestricted access to our massive/lucrative MARKET, for nor reason at all. When you have a huge advantage, you don't give it away to your competitor. Pretty odd that we had to wait 30 year for Donald Trump to come around and say "wait a minute. WE are holding the cards, not them"
The guy who had his campaign merchandise made in China?
 
You can call it that....but the reality is that since 1992 (Bush SR/Bill Clinton.), the GOP has won the popular vote once....in 2004 (Bush/Kerry). Clinton beat Bush Sr. and Bob Dole, Then you had W's one win in 2004 due to the war. After that... Obama beat McCain easily. He beat Romney easily. Hillary Clinton got millions more votes than Trump. And Biden got even more than Hillary did.

28 years and one wins.. I think the OP sees the writing on the wall. Its only going to get worse as the right wing becomes more hateful with each passing day. If I were them, I'd be looking to make some changes too. But you've got to admit that the laughable "reasoning" he presented is priceless comedy.
1. Popular vote is that of Americans + 40 million illegal aliens who shouldn't even be here let alone be voting. Smartest thing the founding father did was create the electoral college, so that states could elect the POTUS, not Democrats' illegal foreigners. Bush got the popular vote because. unlike most Republicans, he was an illegal alien ass-kisser.

2. Biden got 20 maybe million votes, and most of those from illegal aliens. Ho hum. ha ha

3. "hateful" ? 90% of the "hate" is coming from the left (affirmative action, Biden's ARP, & CRT)

4. the "writing on the wall" was quite some years ago, when Democrats came to realize that Americans did not support all their goofy ideas, and now support their even goofier ideas even less. They knew the only way they could win an election (one wonders why they would want to) is to import millions of indigent foreigners from the 3rd world, and load them up with welfare goodies, like Biden has been flying them around the country, and paying their hotel bills. The Democrat election strategy. Go GLOBAL.

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Being a bit new to this forum, I see things (glaringly) that maybe you all who have been here for years DON'T see, One of those things is a ridiculous tactic of pretending that another poster is saying something (which he isn't), and then proceeding to attack him regarding that. 1. It is obvious 2. it is stupid 3. you cant get away with it.

1. Controlling women's sexual behavior (ex. getting an unecessary abortion) is more than just doing that. It is also protecting the life of the person getting born. Debbie Wasserman Schultz said abortion is a matter between a woman and her doctor. FALSE! It is a matter between THREE entities, The woman, her doctor, and MOST OF ALL > the becoming born PERSON.

Saying that "There is absolutely no evidence that banning abortions reduces its practice" is just another example of the typical ludicrous things that Democrats say, and then point to some leftist think tank, media, or university "study" designed to promote that idea, as a basis. Ho hum. Yawn****

Democrats (including ME, in the past) commonly say FALSE things and hope low information people will accept it. I remember when they (we) used to say that coming across the US border with inspection from US immigration authorities, was onky a civil offense. FALSE! it is both a civil AND a criminal offense, as are sanctuary cities, as well.

Regarding guns, I don't need more research. I know what I need to know. I own guns, I have a license to carry a handgun, and I carry it almost everywhere I go. If some people don't, and walk around defenseless, that's THEIR problem

3. OAN is a perfectly good source of information (as is Newsmax, the Blaze, the First, and America's Voice) If you have a problem with anything you hear on these network's, you are free to state here, in this forum, loud & clear, and with source links if there are any. Got a specific problem with something somebody in OAN said ? Let's hear it.

4. In Post # 491, I stated >> "The rarity or commonality of Muslim violence is not so well known. There are far more attacks than most people think. The severity of the attacks is also to be noted. 9/11 was done by only 19 highjackers, but 3,000 people were killed + massive damage. At Fort Hood only 1 jihadist fired a gun, but 13 people died, and 35 more were wounded.
I don't know exactly what you define "extremist violence" to be, but since you want to classify this racially, white Christians are relatively very low in homicides and other violent crime. Blacks are by far, both the most common perpretators, and victims.

You said >> "That is just factually wrong." I say it is factually RIGHT. I'm not going to waste perfectly good time reading a very long, obvious biased, Trump-bash article, hunting for what might establish your point, If you think you have a point to make STATE IT, in your own words, and if your article backs it up, highlight the part you think does that.

PS - nbc news is a biased leftist, anti-abortion, joke source.
I think there are a lot of things you clearly want to be true even though they don't pan out in reality. You want it to be true that banning abortions decreases them. It doesn't. You want it be true that there is a gun control problem in the U.S. There isn't. You want it to be true that Muslims and blacks are way more violent than Christians and whites in the U.S. That just isn't the case.

OAN is perfect for you. They will tell you only what you want to hear. They will feed into your confirmation bias, omit all info that doesn't align with your world view, and hyperbolize the rest. I think as much as you have clearly personalized your politics, it would likely be very bad for your mental health to start evaluating you beliefs at this point.
 
Where the GOP goes post Trump is anyone's guess. I been following politics 40 years, my first vote was for President Reagan, i voted for Busch1 in 88 and 92.

The GOP is for sure at a crossroad, chaos or civility. I hope cooler and saner heads prevail in the mode of Rep. Cheney. She is a true Conservative but puts common sense and her country before party.

Good Gawd, me praising a Cheney, i guess pigs do fly. 🙄
Liz Cheney is a full blown RINO. She should become a Democrat.
 
I'm beginning to sense why there is so much (unexplained) opposition to the ide of the US splitting into 2 seperate nations. Interestingly, all the opposition seems to be coming from the left, when the idea is equally shared by left & right. so it is the left who doesn't want us righties to leave them. Ah, they love us so much.

Those on the right, aren't commenting other than a few positive affirmations. Maybe the leftists, deep down inside them, know that their policies are nuts, and are destroying the country, and if they went on their own, without us conservatives to be a braking system for them, they would go whole hog on all their bonkers agenda, and what would be left, would be an unrepairable total mess (like what Biden is creating right now) Yeah, the idea of a blue USA is pretty frightening indeed. :rolleyes:
I'll make this short since you do not seem to read more than a few lines.

I am opposed to political parties in the government. I also do not believe in the left/right myth of dividing everyone up. I do not want a blue America any more than I want a red America. Both versions would be one-party rule dictatorships and nowhere near being Americanism. I have always said that given enough power either party would become evil. Right now the Republicans have a headstart. But make no mistake the Democrats are not far behind even if they are in denial now.
 
1. Popular vote is that of Americans + 40 million illegal aliens who shouldn't even be here let alone be voting. Smartest thing the founding father did was create the electoral college, so that states could elect the POTUS, not Democrats' illegal foreigners. Bush got the popular vote because. unlike most Republicans, he was an illegal alien ass-kisser.

2. Biden got 20 maybe million votes, and most of those from illegal aliens. Ho hum. ha ha

3. "hateful" ? 90% of the "hate" is coming from the left (affirmative action, Biden's ARP, & CRT)

4. the "writing on the wall" was quite some years ago, when Democrats came to realize that Americans did not support all their goofy ideas, and now support their even goofier ideas even less. They knew the only way they could win an election (one wonders why they would want to) is to import millions of indigent foreigners from the 3rd world, and load them up with welfare goodies, like Biden has been flying them around the country, and paying their hotel bills. The Democrat election strategy. Go GLOBAL.

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Again.....your premise has zero basis in reality. Making stuff up to suit your bizarre and false view of reality is incredibly comical but it doesn't pass for sober discussion.
 
1. Popular vote is that of Americans + 40 million illegal aliens who shouldn't even be here let alone be voting. Smartest thing the founding father did was create the electoral college, so that states could elect the POTUS, not Democrats' illegal foreigners. Bush got the popular vote because. unlike most Republicans, he was an illegal alien ass-kisser.

2. Biden got 20 maybe million votes, and most of those from illegal aliens. Ho hum. ha ha

3. "hateful" ? 90% of the "hate" is coming from the left (affirmative action, Biden's ARP, & CRT)

4. the "writing on the wall" was quite some years ago, when Democrats came to realize that Americans did not support all their goofy ideas, and now support their even goofier ideas even less. They knew the only way they could win an election (one wonders why they would want to) is to import millions of indigent foreigners from the 3rd world, and load them up with welfare goodies, like Biden has been flying them around the country, and paying their hotel bills. The Democrat election strategy. Go GLOBAL.

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LMAO... All these conspiracies and the GQP to too incompetent to find any evidence that will stand up in court...
 
His response to that inconvenient fact is also hilarious...watch.
You "hilarious" laughter is about as intelligent as that of the cackling buffoon, Kamala Harris.
 
Liz Cheney is a full blown RINO. She should become a Democrat.
She is not a RINO since there is only Trumps party now. And Trump was is and always will not be a Republican. You are being led around by a longtime liberal New Yorker pretending to be conservative and it's really pathetic to watch. Trump lies his ass off, everyone has seen it. Yet you believe that he is a Republican that's pretty damn sad.

Donald Trump: "I Probably Identify More as Democrat"
 
I think there are a lot of things you clearly want to be true even though they don't pan out in reality. You want it to be true that banning abortions decreases them. It doesn't. You want it be true that there is a gun control problem in the U.S. There isn't. You want it to be true that Muslims and blacks are way more violent than Christians and whites in the U.S. That just isn't the case.

OAN is perfect for you. They will tell you only what you want to hear. They will feed into your confirmation bias, omit all info that doesn't align with your world view, and hyperbolize the rest. I think as much as you have clearly personalized your politics, it would likely be very bad for your mental health to start evaluating you beliefs at this point.
You've been DUPED. Banning abortion on demand reduces it. Yes, there's a gun control problem IN BLUE CITIES & STATES, where people can't carry guns, or even own them. Blacks are waaaaaay more violent than whites. Blacks are 1/3 of the population in Chicago but commit 80 % of all shootings, In Los Angeles, blacks commit 44 % of all violent crime, but make up 9 % of the population. In St. Louis, blacks are less 1/3 of the population, but commit 90 % of all homicides. In New York City, blacks commit about 75% of all shootings although they’re 23 percent of the population. Whites, by contrast, commit less than 2 % of all shootings, and 4 percent of all robberies, though they are nearly 34 percent of the city's population. The fact that you deny these things, is an indicator of how badly liberals are being duped by leftist media. I watched the news on ABC News the other day, and they were talking about Trump and Bill Barr. It was stunning the way they reported it.


Omitting information is what LEFTIST media does. I have referred to the leftist media as OMISSION media, numerous times in this forum. Do a search of that word with my display name, and tell me how many hits you get.

Everything you have said about me, is exactly what I say about YOU. Everything you said about OAN is exactly what I say about CNN, MSNBC, PBS, etc. YOU evaluate YOUR beliefs. Read my list of Trump accomplishments in Post # . as a start t deprogram yourself from leftist propaganda. Then read my list of Harms of illegal immigration. Try to be objective. This forum and posts like mine are your one chance to do this. Leftist media is never going to tell you what you need to know.
Example: the infamous V-GRAPH of Obama's SINKING 2015/2016 GDPs, and Trump's RISING 2017/2018 GDPs has never been shown on CNN. I've seen it on OAN, Newsmax, the First, etc. over 100 times.

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I must have said this 1000 times, but there has to be a SPLIT between Democrats and Republicans. It is idiocy for these 2 opposites to be bundled together in the same country. The 2 must become 2 seperate countries, with a United Blue States of America, and a United Red States of America.

Anyone of sound mind who is trapped in a blue state, and victim to all its government allowed riots, occupations, police defunding, ludicrous immigration, reckless abortions, dangerously restrictive gun laws, etc etc, should be welcome to move to a red state (country), with financial assistance provided by the receiving state (country). Those who remain where they are absorb the consequences, as they are already doing.

Why do we go on tormenting ourselves, by denying what is a NATION ?

NATION - a stable, historically developed community of people with a territory, economic life, distinctive culture, and language in common. (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 5th ed.)
No. We don't need to split the country. We need to reinvigorate Federalism, and let the red states be red states, and the blue states be blue states.
 
She is not a RINO since there is only Trumps party now. And Trump was is and always will not be a Republican. You are being led around by a longtime liberal New Yorker pretending to be conservative and it's really pathetic to watch. Trump lies his ass off, everyone has seen it. Yet you believe that he is a Republican that's pretty damn sad.

Donald Trump: "I Probably Identify More as Democrat"
I don't know what your defintion of a Republican is, but it would be moot, since Americn Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump and hate Liz Cheney, Romney, Kinzinger, Flake, and other RINOs.

Trump has been the first real conservative president in a long time. Conserving America's traditions, honoring the military, the flag, the national anthem, businesses, etc. The notions that Trump is not a Republican and lies, are both leftist propaganda nonsense. I have challenged Trump-bashers to present here ONE lie that Trump has ever told. All I get are leftist media distortions or dead silence. None have ever presented an actual so-called "Trump lie". In response I have posted numerous examples of media lies about Trump.
 
No. We don't need to split the country. We need to reinvigorate Federalism, and let the red states be red states, and the blue states be blue states.
But Biden is currently NOT allowing that to happen. He is insisting that everyone be blue states, and is working to make that happen, by importing millions of illegal aliens, and flying them around the country to make red states become blue.
 
I don't know what your defintion of a Republican is, but it would be moot, since Americn Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump and hate Liz Cheney, Romney, Kinzinger, Flake, and other RINOs.

Trump has been the first real conservative president in a long time. Conserving America's traditions, honoring the military, the flag, the national anthem, businesses, etc. The notions that Trump is not a Republican and lies, are both leftist propaganda nonsense. I have challenged Trump-bashers to present here ONE lie that Trump has ever told. All I get are leftist media distortions or dead silence. None have ever presented an actual so-called "Trump lie". In response I have posted numerous examples of media lies about Trump.

He signed off on $8T in new debt.

That is conservative?

Let me guess....somehow that wasn't his fault either.
 
But Biden is currently NOT allowing that to happen. He is insisting that everyone be blue states, and is working to make that happen, by importing millions of illegal aliens, and flying them around the country to make red states become blue.
 
Really...words no longer suffice. "Not his fault"....
OF COURSE, it's not his fault. Trump isn't the one who gave unrestricted access to our market. Clinton, Obama, and both Bushes are who stupidly did that. Trumo is the first one who came along and reversed that foolishness, that saturated our stores with Made in China garbage.
 
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