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US imperialism and the catastrophe in Libya

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US imperialism and the catastrophe in Libya - World Socialist Web Site
 
World Socialist Website, for the love of all things good. :lamo

But yea, Libya's a bloody mess, no argument there. I wouldn't call ousting Gaddafi a crime, he was just another tyrant, rather it was just a messy move as we see with the events of recent times in Libya.

That said, no one is responsible for ISIS' crimes other than ISIS itself.
 
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Just out of common sense, I'd have to say this is utter nonsense.

It's well known that the military actions in Libya to remove Gaddafi were primarily an initiative of the French, through NATO, and Obama on behalf of the United States was a reluctant dance partner, at best. Obama only grudgingly agreed to play along when it became apparent that NATO was going to go ahead without him.

Not everything bad in the world can be laid at the feet of the United States.
 

Look at the source, man. Are you even surprised?
 


If the site were still active I could give you many posts of the right jumping on his ass for dragging his feet, suggesting France was doing the heavy lifting.

My question is what happened to his relationship with NATO and why? How did he lose them?

Until then NATO had stood for No Action Talk Only....with the exception of Kosovo perhaps.
 
You guys call Obama a socialist. So condemn him more than the source.
 

I don't know, but I think Obama's relative disengagement from the activities in Syria had European NATO partners concerned that if they waited on the US nothing would be done. Ukraine is another example where the US has basically been missing in action and the European NATO partners have taken the lead. In a vacuum of leadership, others will step up and take things on.
 
You guys call Obama a socialist. So condemn him more than the source.

Don't include me in the "you guys". I don't think Obama is a socialist - I think he's a self-absorbed idiot.
 
Eliminating Libya's government was not imperialism. It was to turn Libya over to the radicals, just as Obama wants to do to Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan...
 

Well I would say you do know...as that makes sense. I was not up on Libya at the time, but the absence of the US in the Ukraine is obvious. That is on Obama's ignore list for sure
 
I don't know about the world socialists, nor do I care to. But it's pretty clear a jihadist-ridden Libya is a threat to Italy and other European countries. Of course it's possible to carry out jihadist attacks from far away--but it's easier to do from nearby. The nearness of Italy to Libya and the historic connection between the two countries tend to make the entry of a Libyan into Italy nothing very remarkable. And a single jihadist who came to Italy from Libya, feigning some legitimate reason, could give terrorist training to a dozen receptive Muslims already living there, or elsewhere in Europe.
 
Last I checked...Gaddafi was a dictator, his people rose up against him, and he promised massive retribution against both rebels and civilian cities under control against the rebels. Whoever wrote that is a ****ing idiot.

Who funded Al Qaeda? Who were the main people involved in 9/11? Who bowed to the king?
 
Who funded Al Qaeda? Who were the main people involved in 9/11? Who bowed to the king?

Who indeed is the bad guy according to your totalitarian loving source? Who cares?
 
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