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[CLAX1911]

Actually the Ukraine war is the 1st major conflict in Europe since WWII.

So we did it in Asia multiple times the Middle East multiple times South America what difference does it make that this is in Europe who cares?

We are not the police and winning this war in Ukraine is in our national security interests.

We can't win the war because it's not our war should I learn this from Vietnam hand Korea and Afghanistan and Iraq and Fallujah and South America I mean how many more times do we have to make this trillion dollar mistake?

If Ukraine doesn't want to be part of Russia it needs to win the war but equally as corrupt as the Russian government so it's just going to fall the second we leave it needs to be a vassal state or it's a waste of time.

Losing it will cost us 7 times as much as winning if money is what you are concerned with.

What will losing it in 20 years cost like Vietnam and Afghanistan?

Arming Ukraine is cheap compared to the far higher price of Russian victory​

The most immediate costs of a Russian victory would be felt by the Ukrainian population, of course. With much or all of Ukraine under Russian control, the war crimes already witnessed in occupied areas of the country would multiply. Tens of thousands would be executed or imprisoned, while millions would be subjected to forced deportation. These horrors would create major humanitarian challenges for the wider European community, with a massive new wave of Ukrainian refugees flooding across the border into the EU.

Vindicated and emboldened by victory in Ukraine, Putin would almost certainly seek to go further. The Russian dictator has already made clear that he sees the reconquest of Ukraine as part of a broader mission to correct the perceived injustice of the Soviet collapse and the fall of “historical Russia.” His next targets would most likely be Moldova, Armenia, and the countries of Central Asia. If the West proves unwilling or unable to stop Russia in Ukraine, there will be little to deter further aggression against smaller and more vulnerable former Soviet republics.

With NATO discredited by the fall of Ukraine, Putin would then be tempted to test the resolve of the alliance in a more fundamental manner by threatening the Baltic states. Would a demoralized and divided NATO go to war with a resurgent Russia over an isolated incident on the Estonian or Latvian border? If not, Putin would exploit this weakness. Failure to defend the territorial integrity of a NATO member state would spark the rapid unraveling of the entire alliance, plunging the whole of Europe into chaos.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/arming-ukraine-is-cheap-compared-to-the-far-higher-price-of-russian-victory/​

If they don't use the arms to win the war it's just throwing good money after bad.

 

[redbeer]

I must have missed where I’ve “supported” any of this war in Ukraine.

It could end tomorrow if Russia went back across its border.

Funny how so many would prefer to suck Putin’s dick than admit that though.




It’s ok though. Trump is on the way to suck the dick and bend the knee to Putin.

Lol, that's a Mr. Obvious response......of course it would end quickly if Putin would cease and return home.....derp, derp. Is this supposed to be any kind of an argument? Did it hurt the ole brain to come up with such a masterpiece?

 

[CLAX1911]

We haven’t been directly involved in the war between Ukraine and Russia.

We're funding it so yes we have the whole point is to help corporations associate them outside that's why we get into war. If that's not getting involved in nothing is

We’ve simply taken advantage of the war to cycle through our stockpiles - sending Ukrain all of our older stuff and given our military industrial complex the job of replenishing our own supplies with fresh armaments.

So when Joe Biden's sons billions of dollars and funding that's just old mothballed junk?

Win-win for us.

Except when it comes time to pay the bill

Lose-lose for Russia.

I don't care about Russia. I haven't fallen for the propaganda that Russia is evil.

I'm more worried about them forming alliance with China.

Ukraine got to be the happy recipient of our old toys that we needed to get rid of anyway to make room for new ones.

If we were just using them as a dumpster that would be one thing it's not a win-win for us because Joe Biden has been dumping billions of dollars over there.

If we do this Ukraine needs to be our vassal.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Oh come on.....think. These neocons have been slowly giving Ukraine a little more in increments to where it's to the point of a nuclear war today. In the beginning it could have been ended quickly if it was their true motive or even while Putin was building up his war machine on the border.....but no, they did nothing. Pretended in the beginning to avoid involvement in the conflict, bowed to Putin's threats of air space, etc.....remember? Same as they do with cellphone technology, only giving out so much each year to make more profits in the long run. Blinken said the quiet part out loud the other day, stating the war in Ukraine is creating high paying jobs here in America.....war profiteers. Duped again.

So you are part of the Blame America first crowd?

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Blame them.

Reagan would despise MAGA.

 

[Fledermaus]

Your wittle war has caused hundreds of thousands of deaths, the destruction of the nation Ukraine, and the strengthening of relationships between Russia, China, and NK......you should be proud.

Putin's war.

 

[Fledermaus]

Oh come on.....think. These neocons have been slowly giving Ukraine a little more in increments to where it's to the point of a nuclear war today. In the beginning it could have been ended quickly if it was their true motive or even while Putin was building up his war machine on the border.....but no, they did nothing. Pretended in the beginning to avoid involvement in the conflict, bowed to Putin's threats of air space, etc.....remember? Same as they do with cellphone technology, only giving out so much each year to make more profits in the long run. Blinken said the quiet part out loud the other day, stating the war in Ukraine is creating high paying jobs here in America.....war profiteers. Duped again.

Do what exactly?

Send Putin a sternly worded note?

 

[redbeer]

Lol.

A ruussian Trashing the US and defending Trump.

Your explanation is absurd. Look at the subject of his thread.

And if he wants peace all Russia has to do is withdraw all their troops.

Question: Russians know Trump is a Russian stooge why don't you?

What happenned to your patriotism?

Reagan would despise you people.

I would think there's plenty Russians who are not so pleased at the USA today, wouldn't you think?

Of course, Putin returning his troops back home would be ideal......not a mental heavyweight thought, huh?

Russian stooge, lol......Putin invaded Ukraine under Obama and Biden, skipped Trump's administration and is now wanting to talk peace with the upcoming administration....seems you are very confused.

I love America, which is why I was pissed in learning of the many secret CIA bases we have along the border and the plans to expand NATO closer to Russia.....all things they know would start war, but they did it anyways. This is NOT unpatriotic to question the motives of our leaders, but that they stay more in line with American citizens, instead of those profiting off war.

Reagan would put those of your ilk in their place.

 

[weaver2]

The next quite logical report from a "first-world" country. 770 thousands Americans don't have home!!!! 770 thousands !!
WHile US homelessness breaks all possible records, the war-mongering NeoCons are busy evaluating how to send more money and lethal weapons to Ukraine. How to murder more people, and how to ruin and devastate a larger part of unfortunate "country". They are acting like a Nazie party in Hitlers Germany and the outcome of such "activity" is predictable.

Wait until all the unwanted, unplanned babies resulting from the abortion bans reach 18 years old and watch the unemployed, undereducated with criminal records swell the ranks of the homeless.

 

[Phys251]

I want the war to end, peace talks, not more death and destruction. How is the USA going to get Russia to lose?

You want to capitulate to Pootin. Reagan is rolling over in his grave at what his party has become.

 

[Fledermaus]

I would think there's plenty Russians who are not so pleased at the USA today, wouldn't you think?

Of course, Putin returning his troops back home would be ideal......not a mental heavyweight thought, huh?

Russian stooge, lol......Putin invaded Ukraine under Obama and Biden, skipped Trump's administration and is now wanting to talk peace with the upcoming administration....seems you are very confused.

I love America, which is why I was pissed in learning of the many secret CIA bases we have along the border and the plans to expand NATO closer to Russia.....all things they know would start war, but they did it anyways. This is NOT unpatriotic to question the motives of our leaders, but that they stay more in line with American citizens, instead of those profiting off war.

Reagan would put those of your ilk in their place.

Reagan would have assisted Ukraine in any way possible up to and including boots on the ground.

 

[dandolo2k]

I think it's our unstable economy. It's been unstable since covid lockdowns. This caused an extreme level of inflation which is just devaluating all the dollars people have. Foreign wars contribute to it but I think the biggest issue was destroying our economy in the lockdown.

Nope. I think the wars and proxy wars contribute much more to your economy plight .

 

[Hamish Howl]

I would think there's plenty Russians who are not so pleased at the USA today, wouldn't you think?

Good. **** 'em.

Of course, Putin returning his troops back home would be ideal......not a mental heavyweight thought, huh?

Yes, which is why I wonder why You People keep insisting that Ukraine negotiate.

Russian stooge, lol......Putin invaded Ukraine under Obama and Biden, skipped Trump's administration and is now wanting to talk peace with the upcoming administration....seems you are very confused.

Well, there was two outright lies. The violence in Donetsk carried right through his term. And Putin has no intention of talking peace with a straight face.

I love America,

No you don't. You love your orange Jesus.

which is why I was pissed in learning of the many secret CIA bases we have along the border and the plans to expand NATO closer to Russia.....all things they know would start war, but they did it anyways.

Boo hoo hoo. Just like forever, right?

This is NOT unpatriotic to question the motives of our leaders, but that they stay more in line with American citizens, instead of those profiting off war.

Reagan would put those of your ilk in their place.

Reagan would shit on you Russophiles from a great height.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Nope. I think the wars and proxy wars contribute much more to your economy plight .

LOL.

No.

This is how our economy has worked for 80 years. Contributing to the zeroing of Russian invaders just lets us unload the stuff that's reaching its use-by date and make some room on the shelves. It is way more expensive to dispose of old munitions that it is to give them to Ukraine.

All those Russians killed by Himars and cluster munitions were a cost saving move on our part.

 

[redbeer]

So you are part of the Blame America first crowd?

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Blame them.

Reagan would despise MAGA.

It's everybody who's involved 'war'.......Russia, Ukraine, USA, UK, EU or whoever is sending money and arms. Don't be so naive that is all you see is Russia crossing Ukraine's border and that's it, that's all there was to it beginning, and disregard everything else, lol.

 

[dandolo2k]

Wait until all the unwanted, unplanned babies resulting from the abortion bans reach 18 years old and watch the unemployed, undereducated with criminal records swell the ranks of the homeless.

But are you agree that re-routing money back to the home issues from military goals and financing of wars may significantly help ?

 

[redbeer]

Do what exactly?

Send Putin a sternly worded note?

Lol, that's what Biden did.

 

[CLAX1911]

Nope. I think the wars and proxy wars contribute much more to your economy plight .

Then why wasn't homelessness increasing to this level in 2018 we had a proxy war going with Afghanistan.

Don't get me wrong I'm with you on ending these proxy wars it's a waste of money and time and life and blood. You don't have to sell this to me.

But the reason why people are homeless is not because the government spending money on war Federal governments tend not to buy houses for people. Unless you're on an Indian reservation.

 

[dandolo2k]

LOL.

No.

This is how our economy has worked for 80 years. Contributing to the zeroing of Russian invaders just lets us unload the stuff that's reaching its use-by date and make some room on the shelves. It is way more expensive to dispose of old munitions that it is to give them to Ukraine.

All those Russians killed by Himars and cluster munitions were a cost saving move on our part.

What a, cynical confession

 

[Hamish Howl]

What a, cynical confession

I work in the industry. I like to think I do my little part to make Good Russians.

 

[Fledermaus]

Nope. I think the wars and proxy wars contribute much more to your economy plight .

 

[dandolo2k]

Then why wasn't homelessness increasing to this level in 2018 we had a proxy war going with Afghanistan.

Don't get me wrong I'm with you on ending these proxy wars it's a waste of money and time and life and blood. You don't have to sell this to me.

But the reason why people are homeless is not because the government spending money on war Federal governments tend not to buy houses for people. Unless you're on an Indian reservation.

So what should the federal govt do to address ?

 

[Fledermaus]

What a, cynical confession

An actual fact. All munitions have a shelf life. Russian 7.62MM Rimmed is decades. A sensitive modern missile far less.

 

[redbeer]

Good. **** 'em.

Yes, which is why I wonder why You People keep insisting that Ukraine negotiate.

Well, there was two outright lies. The violence in Donetsk carried right through his term. And Putin has no intention of talking peace with a straight face.

No you don't. You love your orange Jesus.

Boo hoo hoo. Just like forever, right?

Reagan would shit on you Russophiles from a great height.

You show the error of this insane ideology each and every post, tks.

 

[Fledermaus]

Lol, that's what Biden did.

Do what exactly?

 

[Hamish Howl]

You show the error of this insane ideology each and every post, tks.

Dude, Reagan would hate you guys.

Because of the Putin sniffing.