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Welcome to Government Health care people. Perhaps when the state decides when you should die, your death will be spectacular.
That sets up science as being the single determiner of "effective" medicine and I don't agree with that. There was medicine before science and there will be medicine during and after science. Traditonally knowledge is older than that, and many other systems don't rely on empiricism like the FDA does to establish what is useful for healing. My entire profession, for the most part, is based on non-scientific inductive reasoning that occurred over thousands of years of clinical trials. If the Canadian equivalent of the FDA started saying that I can't use herbs until each one of them (and there are thousands) are tested for efficacy, then all natural health care practitioners in Canada would disappear overnight.
From global warming doesn't exist to USA death panels lol ptif thanks for giving me one final reason to ignore you!
We have a report that 85% of new drugs have little or no new benefit over existing ones. The chances are that this applies to the cancer drug in question.
85% of new drugs 'offer few benefits' - Health News, Health & Families - The Independent
We have a report that 85% of new drugs have little or no new benefit over existing ones. The chances are that this applies to the cancer drug in question.
Now I know where you're coming from, Orion. Actually helpful. What you say makes sense. I guess I'd be happy if they'd just debunk the claims that I have a 10-year-old cornflake in my colon.
It's not the govt's job to determine that value for us by removing FDA approval for drugs. If I want to spend $8000 for a drug that may or may not extend my life for a month, that's my business, not theirs.
You don't spend it, your insurance - frequently Medicare - does. If you want to spend it out of pocket, then go right ahead. I'm sure they'll take your money.
Be-f'ing-sides - Insurance companies do this crap all the time.
Take up arms against them, why don't you?
No one got my previous post did they.
Logan's Run, 1976. Turn 30 and get incinerated. No healthcare problem.
It appears death panels are back in Obama healthcare.
From global warming doesn't exist to USA death panels lol ptif thanks for giving me one final reason to ignore you!
From global warming doesn't exist to USA death panels lol ptif thanks for giving me one final reason to ignore you!
Never said warming doesn't exist I said it is climate change and natural not caused by man
Here we go again.
Cost simply has to be taken into account when analyzing the benefits of a drug. Combine a cost of 'on average' $83,000 to treat people in this late-stage cancer by its being found to only extend life by one month can only mean that pharma's getting rich. That last month? It's going to be hell anyway.
Tell that to someone whose in late stages and whose daughter or granddaughter is set to be married in 2 weeks time.
Or whose grandchild is about to be born.
And ask that person how much 1 more month would be worth to them.
Insurance companies tell people this all the time, no matter how thye FEEL about it. There is nothing new about these types of decisions.
Insurance companies tell people this all the time, no matter how thye FEEL about it. There is nothing new about these types of decisions.
Second, emotion often leads us to make poor decisions. Often the tme we hang on to is not quality, is more painful, causes more suffering, and hurts all more than just saying good by would.
And any med that really isn't effective has no place outside of selling false hope, which is a thriving market.
It appears death panels are back in Obama healthcare.\
Leave things in the hands of "the people" and they are bound to screw it up for the rest of us.
Government should have never got a hand in medical care. :no:
If that is the case, why are you arguing? If this drug would have been a choice denied by insurance companies for being too expensive, why do you support the FDA's handling in this instance? Surely, it is better to have more choices in fighting cancer even if it is too expensive for casual treatment.
I love it when conservatives lie through their teeth.
First off, the FDA is a fairly independent organization. This way everybody can use it as their personal whipping boy come election time.
Aside from that, last I checked the FDA has nothing whatsoever to do with "Obamacare."
In other words, you have no interest in the truth. Got it.
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