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But if we have total war, how would you complain about that?
Assad should have been ready and then Mobilized and went in the ground mopping up what he could. Although ISIS did go and take Raqqa from the Rebels in the first place.
No, but its unlikely-I dont know that we need it (it would take months or years to fully gear up). We would likely defeat these guys before hand (at least as they are currently situated, COIN would continue indefinitely
This has been the goal of your GOP since the night of the 2008 election .
Are things any better in Iraq now that Hussein is gone? I think not.
As GOP Congressman Royce criticizes the President.
And a movement is now under way from DEM Van Hollen aimed at Boehner to bring back the 435 clowns from their vacation .
It's better than chemical genocide, institutionalized rape and a fake wmd program. A democratic government is fighting against genocide instead of a dictator committing it. Isn't that better?
Yep, this administration definitely wants Assad gone for some reason! Could it be that he's trying to bring his people into the 21st Century, and that doesn't fit in someone's scheme of things, where everyone is subjugated except the elite? We see the illegal aliens sneaking into this country from Central America and Mexico just to escape that way of life!
Saddam in Iraq was a monster, but he did keep the lid on the pressure cooker that is the ME , so we had to get rid of him. Things are so much better now, aren't they? Obviously not! I still haven't figured out why we got rid of Mubarak in Egypt, though, just to make room for the Muslim Brotherhood to take over. We saw what happened there - the people said No, and booted them out just as soon as they could! With the electronic gadgets that people all over the world have today, they dream of having the freedom they see others enjoy. Why should rebels be allowed to deny them that, and take them backwards into the dark ages again?
So what is it you want--boots on the ground or boots not on the ground ?
I bet those bastards that were mocking us, beheading Americans, and raping and butchering women and children are now shaking in their boots. Nothing like a tomahawk missile or 500 lb. bomb to get your attention. I'll bet they don't think it's cool aid.
People make light of air strikes but if rhey only knew what it's like to be the target of them they would think differently.
Even though Iraq has turned into the mess that it is, I'm glad we did do it. It served to prove once and for all how uncivilized these people are and inept and incapable at self-rule they are.
It's hard to imagine any group of renegades, of any size, taking over even the smallest town in America.
The Syrian Army must not be worth the pound of gunpowder it would take to blow them all to hell. And the Iraqi soldiers. What a joke! They must all be ******s.
I thank my lucky stars I am an America. With the biggest, baddest, bravest, soldiers in the entire world.
Ooo-****ing-rah!!!
That would require closer cooperation with Assad, but I'd be all for it.
Are things any better in Iraq now that Hussein is gone? I think not.
As GOP Congressman Royce criticizes the President.
And a movement is now under way from DEM Van Hollen aimed at Boehner to bring back the 435 clowns from their vacation .
The promise of airstrikes just give these people a chance to surround themselves with Women and Children.
To hunker down in Schools and Hospitals.
So the videos and pictures of the dead can be used to attract even more support from even more radicals.
Have you learned nothing from Hamas ?
I don't think a democratic government fighting against genocidal terrorism is a mess compared to a dictator committing chemical genocide.
Why do you believe Iraqis are incapable of self rule?
If you followed Pol and my little discussion on this over the last few days, Iraq and Libya are worst off than when they were ruled by Saddam and Qaddafi. In fact, they are a lot worst off. Syria would be the same. I have never understood the obsession to do away with Assad, Qaddafi, Saddam or even Noriega back during Bush the first. Although I do think out of those 4, Panama is in a lot better shape than when Noriega was in charge. But Libya and Iraq are now basket cases, full of nothing but chaos and turmoil and breeding and training grounds for terrorist.
For Obama's strategy to work, he needs a competent ground force. The problem is his supposedly moderate Islamic rebels to number some 5,000 is at least a year away. Now that is 5,000 supposedly going up against 30,000 ISIS troops and 250,000 Syrian troops. The numbers do not add up. Now I am not forgetting the Iraqi, but they are a force who likes to run. Now the Kurds will fight, but not far from their homeland. So who is going to supply the ground forces? Our Air power and indigenous troops worked in Laos keeping the PL and NVA from taking over that country. Our Air Power and the Afghani troops of the Northern Alliance drove out the Taliban with just a few SF and para military on the ground. That is before all this nation building junk took place.
I think that ground force needed to defeat ISIS is sitting right there in Syria. Now the Arabs are not going to commit ground forces, neither is nato. If we want a stable Syria, make nice with Assad. If we want ISIS gone, make nice with Assad. that is my opinion anyway.
Somewhere therein you explain why Iraqis are incapable of self rule?
So you are cool then with the brutal acts Assad committed that is what ultimately led to the Civil War that is occurring today? Why do people keep forgetting the Arab Spring?
Long in short, there is no such thing as Iraq for these people; the term "Iraqi" means nothing to them. Ergo, without a national identity, they will just fall back on who they are... Sunni fighting Shia.
"Dubya" is no longer President,
We're talking about the best way to defeat ISIS with the strategy the present has laid forth. I do not think Libya is better of today than it was under Qaddafi or for that matter Iraq under Saddam. What exactly has the Arab Spring brought us. An Egypt ruled by the military, Libya in chaos and turmoil with more fighting and death than before we disposed Qaddafi. Only that fighting and death is not on the news 24hours a day. A Syria that has spawned ISIS and other terrorist organization operating in Rebel held territory. We have an Iraq with about a quarter to a third of its territory controlled and run by ISIS. Constant war, at least Assad was not exporting terrorist or terrorism.
Rulers of different countries can be despots, tryants, but they do help keep a lid on things and bring stability. Will we, the good old USA be better off is Assad is displaced with an Islamic Republic bent on destroying the infidels of the world? Is Libya better off without Qaddafi? Having a bunch of different tribes and terrorist organizations fighting each other for control of Libya, I think not.
And if he never became Pres, the current mess in Iraq would never have occurred.
But thanks to baby-minded voters (i. e. conservatives), he did, and now Iraq has to pay the price.
And if he never became Pres, the current mess in Iraq would never have occurred.
But thanks to baby-minded voters (i. e. conservatives), he did, and now Iraq has to pay the price.
Despite our Presidents disdain for the term, we still are fighting the war on terror. Nothing is over, or will be for decades.
You are a liberal therefore anything you say or believe has to have some factual support. Where is it this time?I'm repeating what happened. You're pretending it didn't. I think this is the difference between liberals and conservatives.
The fundamentals fact of the current Mideast is that Bush/Cheney's ineptitude and arrogance resulted in chaos, including the rise of ISIS.
Bush understood this and of course he was right.
Yay genocide!
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