Upskirting

[Orion]

The internet... home to all kinds of material, including photos you took up women's skirts when you were walking down the street!

upskirt photography, online voyeurism, street harrassment | Salon Life

I thought this was the best quote from the article:

John Morris, general counsel for the Center for Democracy & Technology, puts the reality simply: "If you don't want to be photographed walking the street, don't walk down the street -- it's a public street."

Do you agree?

To me it's saying: don't want your purse stolen? Don't carry a purse. Don't want to be assaulted? Don't go outside. Don't want to hear degrading comments being shouted at you? Wear earplugs. We can make our lives so simple.

On the flipside, we live in a voyeuristic society now. In most major city centres there are thousands of cameras, and there is always one trained on you at any given time. I know they aren't designed to look up your skirt, but how many private moments to they capture anyway? If people are so afraid of having someone look up their skirt, then maybe just don't wear a skirt?

At any rate, I definitely don't think this requires a new law.

 

[RightinNYC]

The internet... home to all kinds of material, including photos you took up women's skirts when you were walking down the street!

upskirt photography, online voyeurism, street harrassment | Salon Life

I thought this was the best quote from the article:


Do you agree?

To me it's saying: don't want your purse stolen? Don't carry a purse. Don't want to be assaulted? Don't go outside. Don't want to hear degrading comments being shouted at you? Wear earplugs. We can make our lives so simple.

On the flipside, we live in a voyeuristic society now. In most major city centres there are thousands of cameras, and there is always one trained on you at any given time. I know they aren't designed to look up your skirt, but how many private moments to they capture anyway? If people are so afraid of having someone look up their skirt, then maybe just don't wear a skirt?

At any rate, I definitely don't think this requires a new law.

Talk about taking something out of context... The quoted point is completely valid - if you don't want to be photographed walking down the street, don't walk down the street. I have the right to take pictures of anyone walking by me, just like buildings have the right to mount video cameras on the outside of their property.

What you're talking about is taking lewd pictures of someone. And while it might seem outrageous, fact remains that if someone slips and splits their pants and someone takes a picture, they're within their rights to do so. I don't think there's really a solution to this.

 

[Sir Loin]

Talk about taking something out of context... The quoted point is completely valid - if you don't want to be photographed walking down the street, don't walk down the street. I have the right to take pictures of anyone walking by me, just like buildings have the right to mount video cameras on the outside of their property.

What you're talking about is taking lewd pictures of someone. And while it might seem outrageous, fact remains that if someone slips and splits their pants and someone takes a picture, they're within their rights to do so. I don't think there's really a solution to this.

Could this issue lead to the start of the public starting to incrementally suffer from the paparazzi syndrome that celebrities do? Interesting matter to mull IMO. If it is, over time this could lead to a drastic shift in the perception of what all people’s (not just celebrities) rights to privacy are. Is it wrong to upskirt a pedestrian on the street and publish the image? Is that really any different than doing the same to a celebrity? Did they (celebrities) really give up their right to that basic right or decency, just because they became famous and in the public eye? Because I can see how some would argue that.:shock:

 

[Orion]

Talk about taking something out of context... The quoted point is completely valid - if you don't want to be photographed walking down the street, don't walk down the street. I have the right to take pictures of anyone walking by me, just like buildings have the right to mount video cameras on the outside of their property.

It's not taking a photo of someone walking down the street, it's taking a photo up their skirt. It's not just regular surveillance. If you have a right to do it, then what's the point of decency laws? If it's your right to photograph someone's private parts when they aren't aware, then we might as well not be wearing clothes at all.

Easier access that way.

 

[RightinNYC]

It's not taking a photo of someone walking down the street, it's taking a photo up their skirt. It's not just regular surveillance. If you have a right to do it, then what's the point of decency laws? If it's your right to photograph someone's private parts when they aren't aware, then we might as well not be wearing clothes at all.

Easier access that way.

If someone wears a low cut top, you can take pictures of it.

Look, I'm not saying that I disagree with those who are saying that this is ****ed up/perverted/infuriating/etc. The point is just that it's impossible to prevent. This is one of those things that is best addressed, if at all, through social conditioning.

 

[Orion]

Oh I know it's impossible to prevent, and we're in agreement. I don't think this needs regulation... it's more of a commentary on our modern digital world.

 

[Kal'Stang]

What the hell ever happened to morality and personal responsibility? I swear every time I turn around it seems like people are finding new ways to be moronic idiots acting like they're 4 year olds laughing at the work peepee. bs

 

[bilbus]

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