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Unpublished CRS Memo: Obama Administration Has Missed Half Of Obamacare's Legally Imp

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[h=1]Unpublished CRS Memo: Obama Administration Has Missed Half Of Obamacare's Legally Imposed Implementation Deadlines[/h]
Remarkably, it turns out that the White House has missed half of the deadlines legally required by the ACA. And some of those deadlines remain unmet to this day.


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Unpublished CRS Memo: Obama Administration Has Missed Half Of Obamacare's Legally Imposed Implementation Deadlines - Forbes

ObamaKare... Failure. When put together it rings like music. Now to get our representatives to gut the beast.

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[h=1]Editorial: How President Obama is flouting Obamacare
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Re: Unpublished CRS Memo: Obama Administration Has Missed Half Of Obamacare's Legally

And Obama gets to blur the lines that seperate the three branches of government and no one calls him on it.

Obviously Obama care's a disaster but all I can say is wait until after 2014.

IF the Dems some how take the House Back ObamaCare will be implimented whether we like it or not.
 

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I think Obamacare is going to go down in flames in the Courts once people have legal standing to challenge it, like workers, employers, tax payers, any citizen in the US who suffers a consequence due to it.
 

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Re: Unpublished CRS Memo: Obama Administration Has Missed Half Of Obamacare's Legally

And Obama gets to blur the lines that seperate the three branches of government and no one calls him on it.

I can't think of a President that's not true of. Of course it doesn't bother you unless that President has a "D" following their name.

Obviously Obama care's a disaster but all I can say is wait until after 2014.

IF the Dems some how take the House Back ObamaCare will be implimented whether we like it or not.

Unless the Republicans take the Senate, which would be a feat (not impossible, but they'd have to win 20 elections), it will not be repealed
 

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Re: Unpublished CRS Memo: Obama Administration Has Missed Half Of Obamacare's Legally

And Obama gets to blur the lines that seperate the three branches of government and no one calls him on it.

Obviously Obama care's a disaster but all I can say is wait until after 2014.

IF the Dems some how take the House Back ObamaCare will be implimented whether we like it or not.
It would be nice if the R's started to call Obama on his over reaching.
Well... with all the crap they've been wading through in their party... and being a mid term election... I don't see it, but stranger things have happened.
 

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Re: Unpublished CRS Memo: Obama Administration Has Missed Half Of Obamacare's Legally

I can't think of a President that's not true of. Of course it doesn't bother you unless that President has a "D" following their name.



Unless the Republicans take the Senate, which would be a feat (not impossible, but they'd have to win 20 elections), it will not be repealed
They can choose not to fund it. That would spell it's demise.

It's an abortion, and as we know, Libs love abortions... and this one is all theirs.
 

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Re: Unpublished CRS Memo: Obama Administration Has Missed Half Of Obamacare's Legally

I don't get the "K" what does adding a "K" as in ObamaKare supposed to mean or be a reference to?

The Klan?


What?
 

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I dont know that it would even then. Even Repubican leaders (X maybe Palin) understand our current system will no longer work and hasnt for quite some time, something has to be done. There is a shinning example worldwide of a functional healthcare system UHC, the US will have it someday, it just depends on how long we piddle around making sure the industry sucks as much money out of the American people as possible. ACA is just a step. In the mean time medical care can continue to be the biggest cause of bankruptcy and 30 million can go without meidcal care. The Republican must just swell with pride thinking about it.
I can't think of a President that's not true of. Of course it doesn't bother you unless that President has a "D" following their name.



Unless the Republicans take the Senate, which would be a feat (not impossible, but they'd have to win 20 elections), it will not be repealed
 

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I think Obamacare is going to go down in flames in the Courts once people have legal standing to challenge it, like workers, employers, tax payers, any citizen in the US who suffers a consequence due to it.

yep
just like the initial opposition to social security ended that program
 

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Re: Unpublished CRS Memo: Obama Administration Has Missed Half Of Obamacare's Legally

I can't think of a President that's not true of. Of course it doesn't bother you unless that President has a "D" following their name.



Unless the Republicans take the Senate, which would be a feat (not impossible, but they'd have to win 20 elections), it will not be repealed

Repealed would be the smart move and the move that Americans want as poll after poll have shown since this disaster idea was placed into law via a budget bill.

But it doesn't have to be repealed. Even if the GOP doesn't take the senate. The budget process can kill it, as it should, if the GOP does the best thing. Obama and the Democrats can shut the government down if they want but that's up to them.
 

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yep
just like the initial opposition to social security ended that program

Social Security did not force people to buy services from private for-profit companies that they may not desire to purchase. :2wave:
 

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Social Security did not force people to buy services from private for-profit companies that they may not desire to purchase. :2wave:

no
it made them pay into a system many people opposed

there was strong opposition to social security when it was launched, just as there is now strong opposition to Obama care
Obamacare will survive just as social security survived
 

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no
it made them pay into a system many people opposed

there was strong opposition to social security when it was launched, just as there is now strong opposition to Obama care
Obamacare will survive just as social security survived

No it won't; and no it won't.
 

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Our current system is a failure. Something else wil, got any ideas?
No it won't; and no it won't.
 

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Our current system is a failure. Something else wil, got any ideas?

As is that sentence. Not sure what you are asking.
 

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Sorry, our current system is a complete dismal failure. If we dont start on a path to UHC, as I see ACA to be, what is the plan from the right?
As is that sentence. Not sure what you are asking.
 

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Re: Unpublished CRS Memo: Obama Administration Has Missed Half Of Obamacare's Legally

I don't get the "K" what does adding a "K" as in ObamaKare supposed to mean or be a reference to?

The Klan?


What?

Kommunism, the Kremlin....
 

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I dont know that it would even then. Even Repubican leaders (X maybe Palin) understand our current system will no longer work and hasnt for quite some time, something has to be done. There is a shinning example worldwide of a functional healthcare system UHC, the US will have it someday, it just depends on how long we piddle around making sure the industry sucks as much money out of the American people as possible. ACA is just a step. In the mean time medical care can continue to be the biggest cause of bankruptcy and 30 million can go without meidcal care. The Republican must just swell with pride thinking about it.

You know, I almost wonder if they'll piddle around the edges, make minor changes, and say they fixed it....

The individual mandate was their idea in the first place. McCain supported that. Gingrich, Romney....I could see them leaving that in place.
 

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Sorry, our current system is a complete dismal failure. If we dont start on a path to UHC, as I see ACA to be, what is the plan from the right?

No clue. I support nothing or UHC, just not this system that has way too many flaws and forces people to buy from private companies when they may have no desire to. It is bad legal precedence.
 

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Repealed would be the smart move and the move that Americans want as poll after poll have shown since this disaster idea was placed into law via a budget bill.

But it doesn't have to be repealed. Even if the GOP doesn't take the senate. The budget process can kill it, as it should, if the GOP does the best thing. Obama and the Democrats can shut the government down if they want but that's up to them.

I so luv me some right wing logic: To wit - "IF those librul Dems don't do exactly what we real true Amurricans demand, then it is those commie Democraps who are to blame for shutting down America! God bless the Red, White and Blue!"
 

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I think Obamacare is going to go down in flames in the Courts once people have legal standing to challenge it, like workers, employers, tax payers, any citizen in the US who suffers a consequence due to it.

What kind of consequence? Access to health care?
 

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yep
just like the initial opposition to social security ended that program

Good or bad, back when Social Security was implemented we had presidents who knew how to get things done. Now we are stuck with this idiot Obama. I'm surprised he knows how to tie his shoes in the morning. His incompetence shows in every thing he does. If this were not true he would not have to govern with executive order and ignore the Constitution.
 

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no
it made them pay into a system many people opposed

there was strong opposition to social security when it was launched, just as there is now strong opposition to Obama care
Obamacare will survive just as social security survived

Republicans are elephants. They never forget! They are still opposed to Soc Sec and Medicare-Medicaid. Obamacare is here to stay, so they can whine and bitch all they want. I tend to ignore them.
 

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Name calling is such intelligent discourse.
Good or bad, back when Social Security was implemented we had presidents who knew how to get things done. Now we are stuck with this idiot Obama. I'm surprised he knows how to tie his shoes in the morning. His incompetence shows in every thing he does. If this were not true he would not have to govern with executive order and ignore the Constitution.
 
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