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If it were me, I'd send them all back to where they came from, and next time, take no prisoners. If you're gonna fight a war, then fight the war to kill. If you're not, then get the hell out.
They would quickly learn that raising a white flag and putting their hands up are bad ideas.A bit easier said than done, considering we signed this little thing called the Geneva Convention. Taking no prisoners kinda involves killing the dude the first time you shoot him, which is no guarantee. Or shooting dudes after they've raised the white flag and put their hands up.
A bit easier said than done, considering we signed this little thing called the Geneva Convention. Taking no prisoners kinda involves killing the dude the first time you shoot him, which is no guarantee. Or shooting dudes after they've raised the white flag and put their hands up.
If it were me, I'd send them all back to where they came from, and next time, take no prisoners. If you're gonna fight a war, then fight the war to kill. If you're not, then get the hell out.
Other than scale, how is bombing a house and surrounding area with conventional bombs killing everyone present, guilty and innocent, any more moral than using a tactical nuke?If we're going to do this then we might as well make it simple as hell. Use a nuke. That will get the worlds attention right away and at the same time let everyone know that if they F*** with the US then there WILL be consequences.
If you're not going to use a nuke however then taking prisoners is a natural part of any war. There were very few armies in history that did not take prisoners. And usually those that lead them did not last long.
Other than scale, how is bombing a house and surrounding area with conventional bombs killing everyone present, guilty and innocent, any more moral than using a tactical nuke?
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So you are saying trying to destroy a terrorist group is genocide?The scale is what makes the difference. One is considered collateral damage or acceptable losses, this goes off the belief that it is sometimes better that a few innocents die than thousands or millions of innocents. The other could be considered either outright genocide or attempted genocide. Genocide is not acceptable to anyone except wacko's.
I don't see terrorist in that list.Dictionary.com said:gen·o·cide
noun
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group
That's what I said... isn't it. :roll:Other than scale there is no difference.
I look at Gitmo as a prisoner of war camp. The fact that we give unlawful combatants the same protections as lawful ones is, in my opinion, a gift.
So you are saying trying to destroy a terrorist group is genocide?
I don't see terrorist in that list.
That's what I said... isn't it. :roll:
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worse. POW's have rights. those who fight while wearing civilian garb put civilians at risk - and thus do not.
You are correct except that it is assumed that all those arrested are terrorists and that is simply not true. Many of the individuals renditioned to Guantanamo were mistakenly arrested or arrested on false information or arrested because reward money drew their names fromm often unscrupulous individuals. You know. You offer a reward for turning in terrorists and the guy collects by turning in the neighbor who is bonking his wife.
GITMO is a gross violation of US law, let alone international. Torture is illegal, whether we do it here or in Cuba.
What "torture" is happening in Cuba?
Quote"Which is why 77% of the detainees have been released."
77% innocent and released without charges.
The torture is called waterboarding. Been in the NEWS since GWShiiteForBrains decided to torture the 77% of inmates who were mistakes and 23% that might not be mistakes. Just to be certain. You know, Club Guantanamo, the tropical resort torture center, er I mean Detention Center. It's OK in Iraq also, unless your names are England and Graner.
Which is why 77% of the detainees have been released.
odd, then, the high recidivism rate amongst such innocent characters...
No waterboarding happened in Cuba. And it was only done to three (3) people at all, let alone the "77%". And none has happened since 2003.
This kind of misinformed blather helps no one's cause.
I think I would like to see documentation of that. I don't believe in torture. When attempts are made to hide information about torture, you can only assume the worst case because of the suppression of information, unless you live in a Media generated dream world.
I see then that you acknowledge the inmates without charges.
By the way, waterboarding is illegal by the Geneva Conventions
I look at Gitmo as a prisoner of war camp. The fact that we give unlawful combatants the same protections as lawful ones is, in my opinion, a gift.
Unless you are trying to systemically exterminate a group based on race, ethnicity, religion, etc, it is just a lot of collateral damage.Reading comprehension problem or something? If you used a nuke on a city you're killing a whole hell of a lot more than just terrorists. Thats where the genocide comes in. Duh.
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Not really possible. A prisoner of war goes home after the war. A never ending war suggests something very different.
If this is not against any law, it should be. This goes against nearly every value this country has ever professed.
The CIA has been releasing documentation on it since 2004. It's all been pretty big news, greatly discussed. If you're going to make bold assertions, you should at least be current with the information.
How about "documentation" that it's ever been done in Cuba, let alone to everyone who's ever been there, as you say?
Especially when the FBI and other investigations have found no evidence of mistreatment in Cuba, let alone "torture" or "waterboarding"?
"Only assuming the worst" is what you choose to do, for your own purposes to suit your own biases, not what any sense of reason or logic requires you to do. I don't know why you want to believe there's been "torture" in Cuba, but apparently, you do.
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