Unanswered questions in regards to 9/11[W:762]

[Mark F]

Throughout history the average person has been a serf - completely blindsided by the Machiavellian schemes the oligarchies that ruled them ran down on them. It's the common thread of history.

Only for brief periods have societies arisen where the ruling class or government was constrained by law, and the people relatively free. The Roman Republic before it abandoned the rule of law and embraced the rule of tyrants was the best example, but of course that was shortlived, as history will record that America was shortlived.

As Annie Machon points out though, history is written by the victors - had Germany won the war, the burning of the Reichstag would be recorded in the history books as a terrorist act committed by Marxist revolutionaries. When in fact it was one of the more famous false flags in history.

And so it goes with 9/11. As of now the victors, the oligarchy which controls our society, our institutions, and our government, are the ones who are writing the storyline.

Read enough history and study how power is accrued, maintained, and wielded, and it doesn't take long before the pattern of false flags, palace intrigue, and Machiavellian schemes become the obvious norm. As I said, it is history over and over again.

If you are not well read enough in history, that does not make you a buffoon any more than my being well read in history makes me a genius. What it says is that you are ignorant of these things and I am informed. The hope for you, and the hope for society and posterity is that enough people will become informed and be able to push back against our overlords and restore liberty and take back control of our government for the people - under the rule of law, not the rule of men.



What, am I married to the guy?? Do I have to defend his mismatched socks??

I probably disagree with Tarpley on just about every other subject under the sun other than false flags; but on the subject of false flags - the guy encyclopedic. I'm a chemist, and 2 of the most brilliant chemists I know are dyed in the wool Marxists - doesn't make them any less brilliant at chemistry.

Blah, blah blah, more evasions and derails. Have any intention of addressing any of the concerns I have raised about your highly implausible and incomplete hypothesis?

How about addressing the many false claims you have made and upon which your tale relies?
- Hani Hanjours "incredible feats of flying acrobatics" that were in fact both pedestrian and sloppy.
- The missing 'Pentagon trillions' that weren't
- The '85 confiscated video's showing the Pentagon being hit' that don't
- Buildings collapsing "in free-fall" or even "near free-fall" (whatever the heck that is supposed to mean) that didn't
- "Molten steel smoldering in the rubble pile after two months" for which neither you or anyone else it seems can provide any proof (the video you referred me to showed a bent beam, not a molten pool), nor explain how it relates to collapse initiation
- The BBC's mistaken identity report of hijackers still alive
Etc, etc, etc, etc,...

I notice that frequently when these flaws are pointed out to you that your response is to pretend the discussion never happened and quietly move on rather than acknowledge the correct information and modifying your hypothesis where necessary. That is the behavior of a believer, not a seeker of truth.

 

[BmanMcfly]

Oh BM. One I don't support it was the govt or the NWO bankers.

I know.

No its not the same point. If it was the article would have stated something like the bankers control the govt and forced the govt to conduct the false flag.
THE ARTICLE DID NOT STATE THAT. So its not the same point.

No, it wouldn't. Those that are aware of bankers influence on our society don't need the facts rehashed... it's one of those that if you are aware, you don't need the repetition.

However, someone that just buys the mainstream viewpoints and does not venture outside the box, then yes, it would appear as different topics. The reality is that, while it's not the same, it's more of a minor distinction.

Yet, somehow I knew an answer like yours would come along.

Ya, because you are familiar with the situation, except you won't or cannot accept it... not sure what it would take to show you that this is that case,

If anyone did a false flag operation on 9/11 it was AQ. You see it worked, you have taken their false flag plan hook,line and sinker. AQ cover up was to get you to believe it was the US govt and the NWO bankers. Worked didn't it?

Wait, you are saying that AQ framed the us into framing AQ. True in the sense that AQ is the middle eastern militant branch of the cia, though I doubt that is what you meant.

 

[BmanMcfly]

Throughout history the average person has been a serf - completely blindsided by the Machiavellian schemes the oligarchies that ruled them ran down on them. It's the common thread of history.

Only for brief periods have societies arisen where the ruling class or government was constrained by law, and the people relatively free. The Roman Republic before it abandoned the rule of law and embraced the rule of tyrants was the best example, but of course that was shortlived, as history will record that America was shortlived.

As Annie Machon points out though, history is written by the victors - had Germany won the war, the burning of the Reichstag would be recorded in the history books as a terrorist act committed by Marxist revolutionaries. When in fact it was one of the more famous false flags in history.

And so it goes with 9/11. As of now the victors, the oligarchy which controls our society, our institutions, and our government, are the ones who are writing the storyline.

Read enough history and study how power is accrued, maintained, and wielded, and it doesn't take long before the pattern of false flags, palace intrigue, and Machiavellian schemes become the obvious norm. As I said, it is history over and over again.

If you are not well read enough in history, that does not make you a buffoon any more than my being well read in history makes me a genius. What it says is that you are ignorant of these things and I am informed. The hope for you, and the hope for society and posterity is that enough people will become informed and be able to push back against our overlords and restore liberty and take back control of our government for the people - under the rule of law, not the rule of men.

Very true.

What, am I married to the guy?? Do I have to defend his mismatched socks??

I probably disagree with Tarpley on just about every other subject under the sun other than false flags; but on the subject of false flags - the guy encyclopedic. I'm a chemist, and 2 of the most brilliant chemists I know are dyed in the wool Marxists - doesn't make them any less brilliant at chemistry.

I wouldn't sweat that one, just another case of not being able to address the argument so they address the individual.

 

[Fledermaus]

So, wist, about your 767 tankers, or the $2.3 trillion, or the other cases where your precious movie is shown to be bunkum.

Why will you not address these?

Oh, and your QUESTION is?

Same question to you bman,

 

[BmanMcfly]

So, wist, about your 767 tankers, or the $2.3 trillion, or the other cases where your precious movie is shown to be bunkum.

Why will you not address these?

Oh, and your QUESTION is?

Same question to you bman,

You have yet to make a point, you are just trolling for answers and then spinning the response.

2.3 trillion disappears; it's called the black budget. One of the perks of sticking around Afghanistan is the control of the heroine... something like 50 billion dollar a year industry. Off the books money coming in that can fund more.

As for reports, I've seen nothing about that 2.3 trillion since 911... the debt is up to 17 something trillion so, it seems someone is paying for it.

As for the film, I intend to take the time to watch it, but haven't done so for more than a few minutes, but none of the debunkers has even tried... **** even having the chapter list I don't think any debunkers has even gone that far.

 

[Fledermaus]

You have yet to make a point, you are just trolling for answers and then spinning the response.

2.3 trillion disappears; it's called the black budget. One of the perks of sticking around Afghanistan is the control of the heroine... something like 50 billion dollar a year industry. Off the books money coming in that can fund more.

As for reports, I've seen nothing about that 2.3 trillion since 911... the debt is up to 17 something trillion so, it seems someone is paying for it.

As for the film, I intend to take the time to watch it, but haven't done so for more than a few minutes, but none of the debunkers has even tried... **** even having the chapter list I don't think any debunkers has even gone that far.

Borscht Bman,

The references to the accounting have been given in past posts.

The accounting went long after 9-11.

Your insistence that the money disappeared only shows your inability to accept reality.

Note too that you try to dishonestly try to conflate the unaccounted $2.3 trillion and the total debt.

And speaking about trolling. Are you EVER going to address the OP?

 

[BmanMcfly]

Borscht Bman,

The references to the accounting have been given in past posts.

The accounting went long after 9-11.

Your insistence that the money disappeared only shows your inability to accept reality.

Note too that you try to dishonestly try to conflate the unaccounted $2.3 trillion and the total debt.

And speaking about trolling. Are you EVER going to address the OP?

Ya? Which post... perhaps I missed it?

 

[Mark F]

Ya? Which post... perhaps I missed it?

The same post where I quoted from a February 2002 interview with the Pentagon Comptroller.

 

[BmanMcfly]

The same post where I quoted from a February 2002 interview with the Pentagon Comptroller.

I didn't see the link...

 

[mike2810]

Wait, you are saying that AQ framed the us into framing AQ. True in the sense that AQ is the middle eastern militant branch of the cia, though I doubt that is what you meant.

Your a hoot.

No. Since you believe it was a false flag. I am suggesting the false flag operation conducted by AQ was to get you to believe it was the US govt. You seem to support it was an inside job. Worked didn't it.

As far as me accepting. It goes both ways, You fail to accept post that goes against your views.

 

[KokomoJojo]

Your a hoot.

No. Since you believe it was a false flag. I am suggesting the false flag operation conducted by AQ was to get you to believe it was the US govt. You seem to support it was an inside job. Worked didn't it.

As far as me accepting. It goes both ways, You fail to accept post that goes against your views.

What do you think mike?

It had to be just a trick, to get anmericans to believe they had infiltrated our 40 billion dollar security defense alone with the faa, sac, fbi, cia, bush administration, port authority, news media, nist, asme, fema, norad, and everyone else who coincidentally failed to do their job that day. Obviously AQ had hundreds of operatives in every role in those agencies to pull the feat off.

 

[KokomoJojo]

you like that mike?

you sure you understand what I said? LMAO

small world at the top ya know.

Latest On Rabbi Zakheim And The Missing $2.3 Trillion

DOV ZAKHEIM * A brief resume'
Graduate of the prestigious London School of Economics (PhD), and the University of Oxford (National Science Foundation Graduate Fellow)
Former CEO of Systems Planning Corporation, a highly specialized defense technology company that manufactures a one-of-a-kind remote-piloting system for aircraft, including commercial airliners
Senior Fellow for Asian Studies of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
Member of the Task Force on Defense Reform (appointed by Secretary of Defense Cohen)
Senior Advisor at the Center for International and Strategic Studies
Former Under Secretary of Defense (appointed by George W. Bush)
Comptroller of the Pentagon
Pioneer and prime architect of Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the neo-con cabal that authored Rearming America's Defenses (RAD), the bible for American global domination
Author of "Flight Of The Lavi: Inside A US-Israeli Crisis" (Brassey's, 1996)
Long-time Bush associate, having served as a policy advisor to the governor during the 2000 campaign
Columnist for The Jerusalem Post
Editorial Board member of Israel Affairs
Ordained Rabbi
Citizen of the State of Israel - How a citizen of Israel can serve as Comptroller of America's central defense establishment is a question I shall leave to others for comment. While they ponder this perturbing oddity, perhaps they could also shed light on why every one of the following kingpins of the Bush administration are also Israeli citizens: Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Michael Chertoff, Elliot Abrams, Donald Kagan, Richard Haas, Kenneth Adelman, Edward Luttwak, Robert Satloff, David Frum, David Wurmser, Steve Goldsmith, Phillip Zelikow, and Marc Grossman.

_________________


9/11 was an inside job. Our nation is in peril.
The perpetrators are in positions of power.
Demand a new investigation.
Stand up. Be counted.

 

[Fledermaus]

I didn't see the link...

Intentional ignorance is an ugly thing,

Btw - WHAT QUESTION DO YOU HAVE?

And do you have the ability to accept reality?

 

[Thoreau72]

I read that Zakheim went to work in the Pentagon during the Reagan administration.

Former WH Chief Of Staff Rahm Emmanuel is also an Israeli citizen, and his father has quite a record within the Israeli government.

Are the enemies inside the gates?

 

[mike2810]

you like that mike?

you sure you understand what I said? LMAO

small world at the top ya know.

Latest On Rabbi Zakheim And The Missing $2.3 Trillion

DOV ZAKHEIM * A brief resume'
Graduate of the prestigious London School of Economics (PhD), and the University of Oxford (National Science Foundation Graduate Fellow)
Former CEO of Systems Planning Corporation, a highly specialized defense technology company that manufactures a one-of-a-kind remote-piloting system for aircraft, including commercial airliners
Senior Fellow for Asian Studies of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
Member of the Task Force on Defense Reform (appointed by Secretary of Defense Cohen)
Senior Advisor at the Center for International and Strategic Studies
Former Under Secretary of Defense (appointed by George W. Bush)
Comptroller of the Pentagon
Pioneer and prime architect of Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the neo-con cabal that authored Rearming America's Defenses (RAD), the bible for American global domination
Author of "Flight Of The Lavi: Inside A US-Israeli Crisis" (Brassey's, 1996)
Long-time Bush associate, having served as a policy advisor to the governor during the 2000 campaign
Columnist for The Jerusalem Post
Editorial Board member of Israel Affairs
Ordained Rabbi
Citizen of the State of Israel - How a citizen of Israel can serve as Comptroller of America's central defense establishment is a question I shall leave to others for comment. While they ponder this perturbing oddity, perhaps they could also shed light on why every one of the following kingpins of the Bush administration are also Israeli citizens: Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Michael Chertoff, Elliot Abrams, Donald Kagan, Richard Haas, Kenneth Adelman, Edward Luttwak, Robert Satloff, David Frum, David Wurmser, Steve Goldsmith, Phillip Zelikow, and Marc Grossman.

_________________


9/11 was an inside job. Our nation is in peril.
The perpetrators are in positions of power.
Demand a new investigation.
Stand up. Be counted.

I am shocked. A link to an article. Now got to ask, do you accept everything as the truth from the Rense.com site?

Jeff Rense is an American radio talk-show host of the Jeff Rense Program, broadcast on US satellite radio via the Rense Radio Network and Internet radio.[1]
Rense's radio program and website, Rense.com, cover subjects such as 9/11 conspiracy theories,[2] UFO reporting, paranormal phenomena, tracking of new diseases and possible resultant pandemics, environmental concerns (see chemtrails), animal rights, possible evidence of advanced ancient technology, geopolitical developments and emergent energy technologies, complementary and alternative medicine among other subjects. In addition to articles critical of Israel and Zionists, the website also carries articles which defend Iran's policies from its critics [3] and opposes anti-Iranian media bias

Jeff Rense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Mark F]

I read that Zakheim went to work in the Pentagon during the Reagan administration.

Former WH Chief Of Staff Rahm Emmanuel is also an Israeli citizen, and his father has quite a record within the Israeli government.

Are the enemies inside the gates?

Its da Joooooooooooooooooooooooooos!!!! :scared:

 

[KokomoJojo]

Its da Joooooooooooooooooooooooooos!!!! :scared:

WOW MARK!

You might be on to something there!

It sure is starting to look fishy with a whole cabinet and administration of them.

 

[KokomoJojo]

you like that mike?

you sure you understand what I said? LMAO

small world at the top ya know.

Latest On Rabbi Zakheim And The Missing $2.3 Trillion

DOV ZAKHEIM * A brief resume'
Graduate of the prestigious London School of Economics (PhD), and the University of Oxford (National Science Foundation Graduate Fellow)
Former CEO of Systems Planning Corporation, a highly specialized defense technology company that manufactures a one-of-a-kind remote-piloting system for aircraft, including commercial airliners
Senior Fellow for Asian Studies of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
Member of the Task Force on Defense Reform (appointed by Secretary of Defense Cohen)
Senior Advisor at the Center for International and Strategic Studies
Former Under Secretary of Defense (appointed by George W. Bush)
Comptroller of the Pentagon
Pioneer and prime architect of Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the neo-con cabal that authored Rearming America's Defenses (RAD), the bible for American global domination
Author of "Flight Of The Lavi: Inside A US-Israeli Crisis" (Brassey's, 1996)
Long-time Bush associate, having served as a policy advisor to the governor during the 2000 campaign
Columnist for The Jerusalem Post
Editorial Board member of Israel Affairs
Ordained Rabbi
Citizen of the State of Israel - How a citizen of Israel can serve as Comptroller of America's central defense establishment is a question I shall leave to others for comment. While they ponder this perturbing oddity, perhaps they could also shed light on why every one of the following kingpins of the Bush administration are also Israeli citizens: Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Michael Chertoff, Elliot Abrams, Donald Kagan, Richard Haas, Kenneth Adelman, Edward Luttwak, Robert Satloff, David Frum, David Wurmser, Steve Goldsmith, Phillip Zelikow, and Marc Grossman.

_________________


9/11 was an inside job. Our nation is in peril.
The perpetrators are in positions of power.
Demand a new investigation.
Stand up. Be counted.

Now got to ask, do you accept everything as the truth from the Rense.com site?

Now I gotta ask mike, forgetting your strawmen and staying on topic, do you deny these people are who rense claims they are?

yes____

no____

if yes citations please.

 

[mike2810]

Now I gotta ask mike, forgetting your strawmen and staying on topic, do you deny these people are who rense claims they are?

yes____

no____

if yes citations please.

What does rense claim on who the people are have to do with the question if Rense only publishes/post the truth?


Funny you seem to dislike that I liked one of your posts. Sorry, I will refrain in the future of giving you likes.:lamo

Do sites like VeternsToday only post the truth? Yes ... , No ...., If yes, citation please.

 

[KokomoJojo]

What does rense claim on who the people are have to do with the question if Rense only publishes/post the truth?


Funny you seem to dislike that I liked one of your posts. Sorry, I will refrain in the future of giving you likes.:lamo

Do sites like VeternsToday only post the truth? Yes ... , No ...., If yes, citation please.

look you raised the issue now answer the question

do you deny these people are who rense claims they are?

yes____

no____

if yes citations please.

oh ps: I could care less who does or does not like my posts.

 

[mike2810]

look you raised the issue now answer the question

do you deny these people are who rense claims they are?

yes____

no____

if yes citations please.

oh ps: I could care less who does or does not like my posts.

I don't deny they are who rense says they are.

Now KOKO,
Answer my question or we know your just trolling.

Does knowing a persons credentials mean that person is correct and always tells the truth?

Yes or No.

 

[Fledermaus]

Yoohoo...

Bman.....

Have you figured out the 2.3 trillion thing?

 

[KokomoJojo]

Yoohoo...

Bman.....

Have you figured out the 2.3 trillion thing?

where is it fled?

I want to see the accounting for it.

 

[KokomoJojo]

I don't deny they are who rense says they are.

Now KOKO,
Answer my question or we know your just trolling.

Does knowing a persons credentials mean that person is correct and always tells the truth?

Yes or No.

Glad to see you agree with the facts.

Mike I often asked why you are so consumed with sources and others opinions? Most of the people who chimed in on the analysis like eagar and bazant etc always insured they left out or mistated key facts, which were mixed in with correct statements. Knowing this why is that so important to you?

 

[mike2810]

Glad to see you agree with the facts.

Mike I often asked why you are so consumed with sources and others opinions? Most of the people who chimed in on the analysis like eagar and bazant etc always insured they left out or mistated key facts, which were mixed in with correct statements. Knowing this why is that so important to you?

I often wonder why you do not answer direct questions. Why is it important for you to dodge and direct the dialog away from what was asked of you.

Once again Koko, "Does knowing a persons credentials mean that person is correct and always tells the truth? Yes or No.