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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiyy says there is "no other choice" than to negotiate an end to the war with Russia, even if it's difficult to do amid signs that Russian forces may have committed atrocities against civilians that have sparked widespread condemnation and calls for war crimes investigations. Speaking in an interview with Ukrainian journalists that was broadcast on state television on April 5, Zelenskiyy called the events in Bucha "unforgiveable," and that "all of us, including myself, will perceive even the possibility of negotiations as a challenge." "The challenge is internal, first of all, one's own human challenge. Then, when you pull yourself together, and you have to do it, I think that we have no other choice," he added. The interview comes a day after Zelenskiy made an emotional trip to Bucha outside the capital, where Ukrainian officials say the bodies of civilians have been found, many of them shot in yards, streets, and homes. Zelenskiyy is due on April 5 to speak to the UN Security Council, where he is expected to demand tough new sanctions on Russia over the killings in the town of Bucha he has called "war crimes" and "genocide."
Horrific images of corpses left in the open, some with their hands bound behind them, have drawn international condemnation of Russia. Bucha Mayor Anatoliy Fedoruk said the killings -- which he estimated at around 300 civilians -- were "revenge for the Ukrainian resistance." NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg said the pictures of mass graves and streets littered with the corpses of civilians revealed an "unbearable brutality Europe has not witnessed in many decades" and that he feared "more atrocities" are still to be discovered in Ukraine. Russian and Ukrainian delegations continue intensive peace talks despite the furor over the allegations. Negotiators from Ukraine and Russia are expected to continue talks via video link on solving the crisis on April 5. Zelenskiyy has said that Ukraine offered to become an officially neutral state that would have security guarantees from other countries. In the April 5 interview, he noted that Ukraine did not yet have a hard list of countries ready to provide the security guarantee, though talks continue.
One cannot negotiate from a point of weakness, but only from a point of strength. If/when the Ukrainian Army, and the Ukrainian people, not only regain their recent national borders, but started driving Russia out of Crimea, then Moscow would have no choice but to come to terms with them. But that goal can only be achieved from ceaseless multilateral pressure, and a continuous stream of military supplies from the civilized world.I'm not sure how one negotiates with war criminals.... the butchers of civilians. Self-restraint is a mandatory asset.
One cannot negotiate from a point of weakness, but only from a point of strength. If/when the Ukrainian Army, and the Ukrainian people, not only regain their recent national borders, but started driving Russia out of Crimea, then Moscow would have no choice but to come to terms with them. But that goal can only be achieved from ceaseless multilateral pressure, and a continuous stream of military supplies from the civilized world.
I'm sure Zelenskiy knows things that we don't. I suspect we also knows things he does not.I agree. What baffles me is Zelensky's dedication to talks. If the media is to be believed, he has the Russians on the run, why let up the on the punches? And clearly cessation of hostilities at this stage means Ukraine loses a considerable chunk of real estate.
Maybe Zelensky knows something we don't
An hour ago, Zelensky delivered a powerful speech to the U.N. General Assembly. He laid out what the U.N. must do in response to Putin. The General Assembly gave the obligatory applause at the end of his speech, but it was clear that many of the U.N. assembly members objected to be told what they must do.
Ukraine's Zelenskiy Says 'No Other Choice' Than To Talk To Russia, As Bucha Anger Rises
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy says there is "no other choice" than to negotiate an end to the war with Russia, even if it's difficult to do amid signs that Russian forces may have committed atrocities against civilians.www.rferl.org
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiyy speaks to reporters after seeing the carnage in Bucha firsthand on April 4.
I'm not sure how one negotiates with war criminals.... the butchers of civilians. Self-restraint is a mandatory asset.
I watched the Emergency U.N. General Assembly speech.You must have watched the Moscow version of the UN response then.
30 days ago 146 UN members condemned Russia for invading Ukraine for no reason.
I highly doubt that sentiment has changed now that mass executions of Ukraine civilians by the Russian military has come to light.
I watched the Emergency U.N. General Assembly speech.
One cannot negotiate from a point of weakness, but only from a point of strength. If/when the Ukrainian Army, and the Ukrainian people, not only regain their recent national borders, but started driving Russia out of Crimea, then Moscow would have no choice but to come to terms with them. But that goal can only be achieved from ceaseless multilateral pressure, and a continuous stream of military supplies from the civilized world.
Which begs the question: How much is the civilized world willing to sacrifice to see Putin's ambitions thwarted?
Makes one wonder whether Ghandi[sic] still reserved his skepticism over civilization to the Western world, when a countryman assassinated him.
Or when the Hindus and Muslims in his own country had at each other in countless massacres even in his lifetime still.
The never ending whataboutism designed to show that "the Wesr" is just as bad cannot really deflect from the atrocities committed by others. Doesn't work in that direction and not in the opposite direction either.
Participants here remotely aware of that little fact display a certain level of intelligence in their debating efforts, the others just show to be stupid.
And often enough liars.
I'm not sure how one negotiates with war criminals.... the butchers of civilians. Self-restraint is a mandatory asset.
Evidence for Gandhi ever having made the remark is as weak as the gleeful but nevertheless silly behaviour of what one thinks constitutes a gotcha moment over a typing error.
While the conclusion that Gandhi's answer, whether he actually gave it or not, was rightly greeted with the contempt it deserved is absolutely false, even if it is obviously down to someone needing to work on his sentence structure.
While post #13 equating the US with Putin's Russia and the Taliban with Ukraine's current position is so daft that it really deserves no further address than calling it that.
But that's customary with our resident whatabouter, even while committing that logical fallacy he can't even get his equations right.
On the bright side you have at least learned how to spell Gandhi's name correctly.
Yep the US illegal attack and regime change war doesn't fit exactly either. For a start the Russians likely haven't killed anywhere near as many civilians as the US did. And until the oust Zelensky and co cannot be charged with an illegal regime change.
If they are still there in 2042 and rob the bank on their way out leaving the entire people food insecure though we might be able to make more telling comparisons
Somebody really deluding himself that I'll debate the asinine content of his equally asinine post(s).
I understand your fear
One cannot negotiate from a point of weakness, but only from a point of strength. If/when the Ukrainian Army, and the Ukrainian people, not only regain their recent national borders, but started driving Russia out of Crimea, then Moscow would have no choice but to come to terms with them. But that goal can only be achieved from ceaseless multilateral pressure, and a continuous stream of military supplies from the civilized world.
Which begs the question: How much is the civilized world willing to sacrifice to see Putin's ambitions thwarted?
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