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If I could get a card with some sort of magic spell to vaporize all security personnel, I would be glad to pay for it. I would pay extra if it would do the same to metal detectors.Urethra Franklin said:We carry them where I live. I have no problem with it. If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear - in an open democracy. Of course it can become a problem if you wake up to find you now have a leader like Mugabe or Bush. I think for the UK it's not a threat, but they're making a big mistake making you pay for them. Ours are free.
Thats the only thing I would disagree with. The fact you have to pay. We dont have them in the US, but if we had to have them, I really wouldn't mind so much.GarzaUK said:For all our UK members here, I was just wondering what you guys thought on UK ID Cards? Will you get one? Will you rebel? etc.
To explain this to everyone outside the UK, Blairs governmnet is trying to be make these electronic ID cards complosary for everyone.
This cards contains information on you retinas, fingerprints, blood type, DNA etc.
It's to prevent the "threat" of terrorism and fraud apprantly, oh yes and the public have to pay for it as well, about £90 (thats about $130 roughly).
Personally I don't feel comfortable about the Government knowing my DNA, I'm a law-abiding citizen for god's sake. It's just like George Orwell's 1984.
I'm going to rebel personally, if I'm thrown into jail for it - fine. I have the personal liberty for the government NOT to know everything about me.
Naughty Nurse said:I don't have any problem with ID cards as such. I lived in South America for almost 5 years and had to carry one there.
I'm a little dubious about some of the info they could contain, but at the end of the day, if you haven't done anything wrong, you should have nothing to fear. And being able to identify yourself easily would have lots of advantages in terms of making fraud more difficult etc.
Dennis Miller said:I agree with the comment made earlier with regards to Orson wells, "1984". Was that not a scary book, or what?
Dennis Miller said:First of all, I apologize for misstating that it was Orson Wells that wrote 1984. It was a minor error, and I thank you both for correcting that. Contrary to what i assume you are thinking, I did know who wrote 1984. Again, minor misprint. Thank God I am not in the journalistic work force. I may have been sued for such a mistake. In the spirit of corrections, allow me to make one of my own, Miss Urethra. You'd made a comment in your previous posting, stating that America was never at war with Iraq and that Saddam is now our friend, and that the US has been at war with Eurasia. The last I checked Iraq was still a part of Eurasia.
Yes Cornelius, I do agree with what you had said about how we are currently living in the 1984 era. Although I currently reside in America, having moved here only two months ago, I believe that the US government has, and will continue to manipulate the minds of its citizens, whether its country's leader is a self-proclaimed Christian or not. He does indeed have his own hidden agenda just as most politicians do. I believe that the political powers of the world, whether it be the UN or individual federal governments will see the success of having ID cards, and make it mandatory for the entire global community to have. This, of course, will be done "with the interests of global security". It won't be cheap, and it certainly won't be easy. And it will certainly not combat terrorism as the governments say it will. That is only what they will mask this idea with. They will say that it will be for "Homeland Security", and so on, but it will really be to keep tabs on EVERYTHING we as a global community do.
Dennis Miller said:First of all, I apologize for misstating that it was Orson Wells that wrote 1984. It was a minor error, and I thank you both for correcting that. Contrary to what i assume you are thinking, I did know who wrote 1984. Again, minor misprint. Thank God I am not in the journalistic work force. I may have been sued for such a mistake. In the spirit of corrections, allow me to make one of my own, Miss Urethra. You'd made a comment in your previous posting, stating that America was never at war with Iraq and that Saddam is now our friend, and that the US has been at war with Eurasia. The last I checked Iraq was still a part of Eurasia.
Yes Cornelius, I do agree with what you had said about how we are currently living in the 1984 era. Although I currently reside in America, having moved here only two months ago, I believe that the US government has, and will continue to manipulate the minds of its citizens, whether its country's leader is a self-proclaimed Christian or not. He does indeed have his own hidden agenda just as most politicians do. I believe that the political powers of the world, whether it be the UN or individual federal governments will see the success of having ID cards, and make it mandatory for the entire global community to have. This, of course, will be done "with the interests of global security". It won't be cheap, and it certainly won't be easy. And it will certainly not combat terrorism as the governments say it will. That is only what they will mask this idea with. They will say that it will be for "Homeland Security", and so on, but it will really be to keep tabs on EVERYTHING we as a global community do.
Yes, I know what I'm saying. Do you know how to comprehend a conversation yet Mr.NYU? I was clearly asking you if that was what you thought. Don't you think that the US is a little more technologically equipped to handle such a task, then say, most other countries? Try reading these posts a little slower than you have been. You might start to understand what people are typing. Remember ... S-L-O-W-L-Y.RightatNYU said:Do you even know what you are saying? You first claim that the US is becoming the most powerful government in the world, then claim that we're falling behind technologically. Pick a paranoid theory and stick to it.
Dennis Miller said:You have made it quite obvious that you have one major thing in common with the president ... you are unable to make any sense of any possible points that you have so far attempted. Have you tried to use my previous advice that I had given you earlier in this thread? You know, the advice on reading things S-L-O-W-L-Y before you make an uneducated opinion fer cryin' out loud. Next time you decide to make a thought come out of your head, learn something about that particular point first, otherwise it will hurt when you push too hard, chief.
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