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They have supplied Israel with no such incriminating evidence.
British sources said there was evidence that the 12 British victims of stolen identity had had their passports temporarily taken away either by Israeli immigration officers or other officials. Clones of those passports were subsequently used by some of the large team sent to kill Mabhouh.
"They found no link to any other country," Miliband said. Without mentioning the Mossad by name, he added that "the government judges it is highly likely that the forgeries were made by a state intelligence service".
He said British investigators had interviewed all the passport holders affected, who hold dual British-Israeli citizenship, and "found no evidence to suggest any of those individuals were anything other than innocent victims of identify theft".
Towards those who've called you so, yeah.
They are members of the Parliament, not the government.
It should also be noted that their party's support from the public is way smaller than that of the BNP.
Rightist MKs: 'British are dogs, who are they to judge?' - Israel News, Ynetnews
He is not even a politician, and this is off-topic.Is Netanyahu's brother also a member of this fringe party? He called Obama an anti-semite last week.
Asked for the third time, since Catz continues to dodge this.Apocalypse said:The UK did not cut off its ties with Israel - where did you get that from?
They are members of the Parliament, not the government.
It should also be noted that their party's support from the public is way smaller than that of the BNP.
Asked for the third time, since Catz continues to dodge this.
Because it was in the news? :dohHow exactly would you know?
Israel furious after UK expels diplomatIsraeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said that no evidence of Israeli involvement had been provided, and lamented what he called an unfortunate decision by the British.
I remember a poll where they have received over 3.3% of the population's support.Well the BNP do not have any Members of the British Parliament so I would not be so sure.
One could think of a reason for nearly everything.There are many possible reasons for this, including burning possible confidential sources. I can think of a lot of reasons why the British government might not want to provide the direct evidence to Israel, given the current situation.
I understand that you lack knowledge of Israel's methods regarding borders security.Here's your evidence:
British law enforcement interviewed the victims of identity theft, and found that there were common elements in their stories:
I see no reason, based upon this story, to believe Apoca's allegations that this was a politically motivated act. It looks clear that Israeli officials overstepped the bounds of propriety when handling British citizen's identification.
Indeed, but how unfortunate that it is far from being your only mistake.That was my mistake.
Because it was in the news? :doh
Israel furious after UK expels diplomat
So I'm saying that Lieberman has come up and said that he has not received any evidence from Britain.Sounds like propaganda to me.
UK Expels Israeli Diplomat Over Dubai Murder CaseIsraeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said that no evidence of Israeli involvement had been provided, and lamented what he called an unfortunate decision by the British.
Why should I care if he's Jewish or not?alexa said:Contrary to what you think Britain is not a very antisemetic country - indeed in the last report I read we were much the same as the US so your fantasies that that is the reason, is just that fantasies. As well as I have already pointed out our foreign minister is himself Jewish and considers Israel a British ally but he appeared very angry about this to me.
So I'm saying that Lieberman has come up and said that he has not received any evidence from Britain.
You're then saying that it is my own opinion, even though it is really a fact and is something that I've seen with my own eyes, watching the news, understanding Hebrew, and understanding the words that are coming out of Lieberman's mouth as the picture is moving.
I then choose to simply do a quick googling and show you the translated statement.
You in return label it as 'propaganda' and say that it's the result of Israel's "bad freedom of press" (even though the ranking was only due to Israel's handling of the Gaza operation).
Now the catch is, that that statement exactly was simply copied and pasted into the link that I've used, and your objection to the source being Israeli is nothing but the result of a massive and heavy propaganda against the Israeli nation.
Now here's the same exact statement from a foreign newspaper:
UK Expels Israeli Diplomat Over Dubai Murder Case
The mere fact that you show utter dissatisfaction, and pure objection to that which is real and true, to that which is known and obvious, to that which exists in the realm of reality, shows that you are completely mislead by your bias and unavoidably discredits your posts.
To state it in simple words - I have just witnessed you denying that a politician has stated some words, even though he has stated them in front of TV and tens of reporters.
It's sorta like denying that Obama has ever said "Yes we can".
We haven't been investigating the killing Kaya, we are leaving that to Dubai.
Again, where is the evidence?
Israel could just as well have claimed that they have compelling reasons to believe Britain is behind this, seeing that the absolute majority of the passports were British, and that most of the identities that were used have belonged to British citizenship holders - but there is no real evidence to legally blame either Israel or Britain.
It's not a big issue, merely a use of foreign passports by foreign agents, something that happens every ****ing day.
Israel has fully cooperated with the British investigation, as noted by David Miliband.Sorry this isnt a court case.
Evidence or no evidence, Israel has slapped a "I DID IT" sign on there foreheads all the while turning around and saying there isn't any evidence to prove it, but its enough to react on it and be sure it was Mossad. Again, we all know damn well who it was, in the West we have no interests in playing games with those who think they can undermine us. If your unhappy with the general consensus of the belief it was Mossad both in the media and here in the West, please do take a moment of your time to write a letter of complaint to your nearest British embassy.
Technically speaking, no one has got caught here.Its not everyday they get caught
It has happened before.and not everyday a wide scale operation is used with them to kill a Hamas top official.
This is no random pen pusher we're talking about here.
Its one of the top dogs in one of the biggest political terror networks in the world that got killed that day.
The motives where clear, no evidence or with it.
I find the British reaction to be a "no biggie" since they have decided to continue the cooperation with the Israeli intelligence services in the counter-terrorism field.If you find it a "no biggie" that allied Secret Services took an advantage of the trust bestowed on you by us, then well, your on on own on that one, just to make that very clear.
After you've called the text propaganda, you have referred to the Israeli freedom of press as a supporting statement to your argument.No, I said what Lieberman said sounded like
propaganda. You do tend to twist things.
After you've called the text propaganda, you have referred to the Israeli freedom of press as a supporting statement to your argument.
Were you referring to Lieberman's words alone as "propaganda" (which also aren't, since it was not denied by British officials), you wouldn't have to mention the Israeli freedom of press status.
I think you've just realized how obvious it was that you were wrong, and are now retracting on your own words.
I don't buy it.
Does this statement make sense even in your own eyes?I was referring to what he said as propaganda. I then felt of your inability to even question whether Israel was responsible for this and then freedom of the press came to mind.
"There must be a very good reason"..?I still think it is highly unlikely we did not report to Israel what we have found and if we did not there must be a very good reason which will possibly come out at some point.
Reasons it doesn't share with anyone else.It strikes me as being a bit like spy work, there are things which are being kept very hush husH. Nonetheless the Government is very definite that it has compelling reasons to believe it is Israel on circumstantial evidence.
"There must be a very good reason"..?
That's it?
Today's developments follow an inquiry by the Serious and Organised Crime Agency (Soca).
Mliband said inquiries were still under way in other countries and that it would not be appropriate for "legal and other reasons" to release the Soca report in full.
But he said that, given the quality of the forgeries, it was "highly likely" that they were made by a state intelligence service.
"This, together with other enquiries, and the links to Israel established by Soca, [means] we have concluded that there are compelling reasons to believe that Israel was responsible for the misuse of British passports," Miliband told MPs in a statement this afternoon.
Miliband said the UK government took the matter extremely seriously and had written to the Israeli administration seeking assurances that such misuse would never happen again.
The misuse of UK passports not only presented a hazard to British nationals in the region but also represented a "profound disregard" for the sovereignty of the United Kingdom, the foreign secretary said.
"The fact that this was done by a country that is a friend with significant diplomatic, cultural, business and personal ties to the UK only adds insult to injury. No country or government could stand by in such a situation."
Miliband told MPs that the Soca report had been studied by the prime minister and was presented to the cabinet earlier today.
Israel has fully cooperated with the British investigation, as noted by David Miliband.
And when dealing with state affairs, it is indeed a "court case".
I personally do not believe it was a Mossad operation, since I do not believe the Mossad would use Israeli citizens' identities.
It has happened before.
I find the British reaction to be a "no biggie" since they have decided to continue the cooperation with the Israeli intelligence services in the counter-terrorism field.
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