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UK and France 'in talks' to deploy troops to Ukraine over fears of US removing support

Uncensored2008 said:
War pigs are outraged that Trump will put an end to this. Forever war ios needed to keep taxpayer money flowing to the Military Industrial Complex. Peace will be resisted by democrats with everything you have.
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Can we inspect a really worse case scenario?

If Trump threatens to MIC the way you expect, what will prevent him from experiencing the same fate as JFK?
 
georgephillip said:
Putin was defending his borders from US aggression just as Russia has done since 1918.

Any slaughter by Russian forces in Ukraine pales in comparison to the millions of maimed, murdered, and displaced civilians the US has been responsible for since 1945

That killing, maiming, and displacing and genocide continues to this very day at the hands of US puppets like Israel:
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"In October, Forensic Architecture (FA) released a report meticulously documenting Israel’s military assault on Gaza.

"A Spatial Analysis of the Israeli Military’s Conduct in Gaza since October 2023 not only reports evidence of the military’s violence against all aspects of civilian life—from hospitals, schools, shelters, archeological sites, and religious centers to agricultural lands, water wells, bakeries, and aid distribution—it also documents how these incidents form patterns that, taken together, demonstrate the intent to commit genocide."

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/12/mapp...1&utm_campaign=Daily+Headlines+RSS+Automation
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Defending the Russian border from the USA by invading Ukraine?

What the **** are you talking about?
 
georgephillip said:
Can we inspect a really worse case scenario?

If Trump threatens to MIC the way you expect, what will prevent him from experiencing the same fate as JFK?
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To be fair, he has survived more assassinations than JFK.
 
georgephillip said:
Can we inspect a really worse case scenario?

If Trump threatens to MIC the way you expect, what will prevent him from experiencing the same fate as JFK?
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They have already tried - twice.

The democrats/MIC/War Pigs want Trump dead. They seek perpetual war.
 
Fledermaus said:
Defending the Russian border from the USA by invading Ukraine?

What the **** are you talking about?
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What are you forgetting?
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"The crisis that has erupted in Ukraine following the right-wing coup engineered by the United States and Germany and the intervention of Russia into Crimea has created the most dangerous international confrontation since the end of World War II.

"Almost overnight, in a manner not seen since the 1930s, ultimatums are being issued and military forces are being placed on high alert in Europe."

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/03/pers-m03.html
 
georgephillip said:
What are you forgetting?
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"The crisis that has erupted in Ukraine following the right-wing coup engineered by the United States and Germany and the intervention of Russia into Crimea has created the most dangerous international confrontation since the end of World War II.

"Almost overnight, in a manner not seen since the 1930s, ultimatums are being issued and military forces are being placed on high alert in Europe."

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/03/pers-m03.html
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What does 2014 have to do with this invasion?
 
georgephillip said:
Can we inspect a really worse case scenario?

If Trump threatens to MIC the way you expect, what will prevent him from experiencing the same fate as JFK?
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We in the MIC don't kill people. You're talking all crazy.
 
georgephillip said:
Putin was defending his borders from US aggression just as Russia has done since 1918.
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Spoken like a true progressive.

You can actually HEAR the sneer on my face when you read that.
 
georgephillip said:
When, exactly, was America Great?
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For one definition of great, since it was founded.

For another definition of great, from 1941 on.

For a final definition of great, 1969.

My personal opinion is that America wasn't even America until 5:29 AM on July 16, 1945. It was just the United States.

Before 5:29 AM on that date, we thought we could do anything. At 5:29 AM, we knew we could do anything.
 
Hamish Howl said:
We in the MIC don't kill people. You're talking all crazy.
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The USMIC has killed millions of Koreans, Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians between 1945 and 2001; what happened afterwards?

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/figures/2021/WarDeathToll

"Human Cost of Post-9/11 Wars: Direct War Deaths in Major War Zones, Afghanistan & Pakistan (Oct. 2001 – Aug. 2021); Iraq (March 2003 – March 2023); Syria (Sept. 2014 – March 2023); Yemen (Oct. 2002-Aug. 2021) and Other Post-9/11 War Zone"​

 
Hamish Howl said:
For one definition of great, since it was founded.

For another definition of great, from 1941 on.

For a final definition of great, 1969.

My personal opinion is that America wasn't even America until 5:29 AM on July 16, 1945. It was just the United States.

Before 5:29 AM on that date, we thought we could do anything. At 5:29 AM, we knew we could do anything.
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Do you regard Jim Crow as a feature or a glitch of America's greatness?
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https://www.loc.gov/item/2002720354/
 
georgephillip said:
The USMIC has killed millions of Koreans, Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians between 1945 and 2001; what happened afterwards?

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/figures/2021/WarDeathToll

"Human Cost of Post-9/11 Wars: Direct War Deaths in Major War Zones, Afghanistan & Pakistan (Oct. 2001 – Aug. 2021); Iraq (March 2003 – March 2023); Syria (Sept. 2014 – March 2023); Yemen (Oct. 2002-Aug. 2021) and Other Post-9/11 War Zone"​

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The MIC does not actually kill people.

The militaries that wield the weapons do.

And shall we count up the glorious death tolls from the USSR and Red China?
 
georgephillip said:
What invasion?
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Intentional ignorance noted.

The invasion of Ukraine where RUSSIA sent so many thousands of RUSSIAN soldiers to their deaths.

The invasion of Ukraine where RUSSIA tried and failed to take Kyiv.

The invasion of Ukraine where RUSSIA lost their ships and aircraft.

The invasion of Ukraine where RUSSIA virtually destroyed cities not part of Donbass.

The invasion of Ukraine where RUSSIA murdered civilians.
 
Tangmo said:
Alas it's another Kremlin press release.

And I know who wrote it.

Because here it is! Right out of the USA office.
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Which side in the Russia-Ukraine conflict is advancing every day and which side is retreating?

"Russian forces gained 4,168 square kilometers, largely comprised of fields and small settlements in Ukraine and Kursk Oblast, at a reported cost of over 420,000 casualties in 2024."

https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-31-2024
 
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