U.S. Women's Soccer Team Accused Of Snubbing Star Player For Christian Views

[Frigidweirdo]

Um, they are only positive and negative from your point of view. You are basically saying my way or the highway. Not equal treatment, since you know what is “positive” and others don’t.

No. I'm saying positive is "yay to these people" and negative is "boo to these people".

You're saying that yay and boo are the same thing. They're not.

You want equal treatment? Oh, no you don't. Don't do that compartmentalization **** on me. You want to be able to carry out your prejudices while at the same time claiming you support the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution when you clearly don't.

 

[Frigidweirdo]

Ah...let me know when we get some equal opportunity here and all the players have to wear a shirt that supports only heterosexual marriage.

Perhaps the normal shirt does support that. Seeing how heterosexuals are the norm.

What's the flag for heterosexual marriage? Why does heterosexual marriage need it's plight highlighting? Who's pounding on heterosexual marriage? Who's banning it? Who's persecuting straight married people?

 

[3leftsdoo]

Exactly. They put their intolerance on display like a virtue.

Yurp.

 

[vegas giants]

Yurp.

Nooooooooooope

 

[3leftsdoo]

Apparently this player feels a need to be remembered.

Last year she refused to play, and she got world attention for taking a stand. This year she's whining because she wasn't invited back after she refused to play before. Sounds like someone who doesn't like being forgotten. She was the one who told them no. She chose. And now she's upset that they didn't beg her to come back and be on their winning team.

She never should have been put in that position.

Obviously.

 

[vegas giants]

She never should have been put in that position.

Obviously.

Put on the Jersey and play the game

 

[maxparrish]

(repeats his mantra of denial)

"The coach played the best team and won." Irrelevant observation.

"They did not want someone who may choose at any time to decide she does not want to play." For your last half dozen posts, an unsupported claim (not even supported by their own coach), as well as contrary to the circumstantial evidence of discrimination.

" The coach picked a team she could count on"...to wear gay pride jerseys. Got it.

"Hinkle is now regulated to the dustbin of history" You hate her and delight in her anonimity, we get it.

 

[maxparrish]

Of course I would.

Are you bitter no one supports your jesus zombie? Lol

No, I'm only disappointed that you think juvenile taunts are persuasive, let alone effective with someone who is not a Christian.

 

[RAMOSS]

"Jaelene Hinkle, 26, "has been called the top left defender in the U.S. game," according to The Washington Times."

Seriously? The Moonie Times?

and Daily wire.

 

[maxparrish]

…(another string of red herrings)

"Hinkle wasn't needed." Irrelevant. Team need was never an issue.

"She wasn't entitled" Irrelevant. Entitlement was never an issue.

"But now people are saying that somehow the coach didn't make the right decision in picking the members of the winning team and should have picked this person who turned her heel on the team last year?" Strawman. No one said the coach didn't make the right decision in her selection. Nor is anyone saying that she should have picked this person. What people are saying is that the reason that she was not invited or picked was because she didn't, and won't, wear a jersey supporting gay pride and identity while playing soccer/

So yes, in that sense she is unreliable. Of course, as a soccer player she is totally reliable unless you only giver her the choice to pick between supporting YOUR self-esteem cause or not playing for America.

Therefore the only question has been, which has flown over your head for many posts, is caring the coach's poltics a reasonable and ethical requirement to play soccer for America.?

If you can't answer intelligently to the question, then don't bother to reply.

 

[Master Debator]

"Hinkle wasn't needed." Irrelevant. Team need was never an issue.

"She wasn't entitled" Irrelevant. Entitlement was never an issue.

"But now people are saying that somehow the coach didn't make the right decision in picking the members of the winning team and should have picked this person who turned her heel on the team last year?" Strawman. No one said the coach didn't make the right decision in her selection. Nor is anyone saying that she should have picked this person. What people are saying is that the reason that she was not invited or picked was because she didn't, and won't, wear a jersey supporting gay pride and identity while playing soccer/

So yes, in that sense she is unreliable. Of course, as a soccer player she is totally reliable unless you only giver her the choice to pick between supporting YOUR self-esteem cause or not playing for America.

Therefore the only question has been, which has flown over your head for many posts, is caring the coach's poltics a reasonable and ethical requirement to play soccer for America.?

If you can't answer intelligently to the question, then don't bother to reply.

So sad. While the rest of America is celebrating conservatives are desperately trying to find one among them whos relevant. :lamo

 

[maxparrish]

So sad. While the rest of America is celebrating conservatives are desperately trying to find one among them whos relevant. :lamo

And an encore: "If you can't answer intelligently to the question, then don't bother to reply."

 

[jimbo]

A team needs to be united. With national teams good players who rock the boat sometimes find themselves outside of the national team because they can't work with others. If you have a player who is unable to deal with the gay players, then it's better they're left out. I mean, the US won the competition, so the decision is justified.

Maybe it's the gay players who can't work with the Christian players who should be left out.

 

[Master Debator]

And an encore: "If you can't answer intelligently to the question, then don't bother to reply."

Players don't get to make choices on jerseys or causes. The NFL used to make players wear pink for breast cancer awareness month. Leagues and teams make decisions that go beyond the field of play and you can accept them or not. You want us to applaud this chick for standing up for her principles but at the same time erase the sacrifice that made it enviable. Hooray. She's a great Christian but she isn't a USA womens world cup champion so no one other than hurt conservatives will give a ****. :nahnah:

 

[BrotherFease]

Interesting topic. SBNATION had a similar article about Hinkle being left off the final roster.

It looks to me like the religious right wants to play victim hood again, even though there's no proof that she was left off the list for discrimination reasons.

Here's what Yahoo sports wrote:

Jaelene Hinkle left off U.S. 2019 Women'''s World Cup roster

“Best left back in the league,” however, does not automatically translate to “national team-caliber.” The position is the shallowest in the U.S. player pool, a shortcoming that led Ellis to name a roster without a single natural left back. Meghan Klingenberg, who played every minute of the 2015 World Cup, hasn’t gotten a look since 2017. Casey Short, a versatile defender, consistently made rosters, but hadn’t seen the field in a U.S. jersey in over six months, and didn’t make the World Cup cut. Other strong NWSL fullbacks have received even fewer opportunities than Hinkle.

And while Hinkle might be considered the best at the position, she was not named to the 2018 NWSL Best XI or Second XI. The only American fullback on either all-league team was Courage right back Merritt Mathias — who also did not make the U.S. roster, and who has only played once for the national team.

This seems like the real reason: She's really good, but the U.S Women's team can only put 23 really good ladies on there. Her position less needed than the others. Who can argue their results? 4 FIFA Word Cups in 8 years of existence, and in the others, they place either 2nd or 3rd. Lets stop pretending she's Lebron James and got cut out because she said "Blue Lives Matter".

 

[vegas giants]

"The coach played the best team and won." Irrelevant observation.

"They did not want someone who may choose at any time to decide she does not want to play." For your last half dozen posts, an unsupported claim (not even supported by their own coach), as well as contrary to the circumstantial evidence of discrimination.

" The coach picked a team she could count on"...to wear gay pride jerseys. Got it.

"Hinkle is now regulated to the dustbin of history" You hate her and delight in her anonimity, we get it.

Facts are facts. She skipped three games. She is unreliable.


Rapinoe wanted to protest to by kneeling. They changed the rule so she stood up so she could play.


That is a team player. That us a winner....unlike hinkle

 

[vegas giants]

"Hinkle wasn't needed." Irrelevant. Team need was never an issue.

"She wasn't entitled" Irrelevant. Entitlement was never an issue.

"But now people are saying that somehow the coach didn't make the right decision in picking the members of the winning team and should have picked this person who turned her heel on the team last year?" Strawman. No one said the coach didn't make the right decision in her selection. Nor is anyone saying that she should have picked this person. What people are saying is that the reason that she was not invited or picked was because she didn't, and won't, wear a jersey supporting gay pride and identity while playing soccer/

So yes, in that sense she is unreliable. Of course, as a soccer player she is totally reliable unless you only giver her the choice to pick between supporting YOUR self-esteem cause or not playing for America.

Therefore the only question has been, which has flown over your head for many posts, is caring the coach's poltics a reasonable and ethical requirement to play soccer for America.?

If you can't answer intelligently to the question, then don't bother to reply.

Yes she is unreliable. I agree.

 

[BrotherFease]

Facts are facts. She skipped three games. She is unreliable.

There are lots of reasons why she was cut from the final roster. None of which have to do about her refusing to wear a jersey.

If people really feel she was discriminated against for religious views, then by all means file a lawsuit. But that's not happening.

 

[Frigidweirdo]

Maybe it's the gay players who can't work with the Christian players who should be left out.

Did the gay players refuse to play for the team?

 

[Fishking]

Perhaps the normal shirt does support that. Seeing how heterosexuals are the norm.

Sorry, no. That's just silly. The normal shirt says nothing more than what team they are on and what number they wear.

What's the flag for heterosexual marriage? Why does heterosexual marriage need it's plight highlighting? Who's pounding on heterosexual marriage? Who's banning it? Who's persecuting straight married people?

I see you're missing the point, that there is a political/ideological position that is being forced on the players. It has nothing to do with any of those other things that you're trying to obfuscate the issue with.

 

[snakestretcher]

Do as we say, or else. The left in a nutshell.

Yeah, like try not paying your taxes, or crossing a road in the 'wrong' place. Do as we say indeed.

 

[Simpletruther]

No. I'm saying positive is "yay to these people" and negative is "boo to these people".

You're saying that yay and boo are the same thing. They're not.

You want equal treatment? Oh, no you don't. Don't do that compartmentalization **** on me. You want to be able to carry out your prejudices while at the same time claiming you support the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution when you clearly don't.

The view that gay sex is wrong isn’t boo to people. It’s boo to sin.


And if you claim it is, then celebrating gay as good indireclty says those that disagree are bad, and is booing them. The Christian was being booed indirectly there. She knew that. That is the whole point of selecting this divisive issue to make political points on.

Having an opinion isn’t carrying out prejudice. Yes, it isnyou being unequal and unreasonable. Neither the boo. Or yea should be a thing in something that is supposed to represent everyone. Those political views should not be invlvoved anyway. But if they get involved, it should be equal time.

 

[snakestretcher]

The view that gay sex is wrong isn’t boo to people. It’s boo to sin.


And if you claim it is, then celebrating gay as good indireclty says those that disagree are bad, and is booing them. The Christian was being booed indirectly there. She knew that. That is the whole point of selecting this divisive issue to make political points on.

Having an opinion isn’t carrying out prejudice. Yes, it isnyou being unequal and unreasonable. Neither the boo. Or yea should be a thing in something that is supposed to represent everyone. Those political views should not be invlvoved anyway. But if they get involved, it should be equal time.

Gay sex is a sin? What is a sin anyway?

 

[Amelia]

Hinkle picked her platform last year. She stood on it and milked it for all it was worth. And now it's old news.


So now she's playing victim because someone else has the stage this year, plus a world championship. She turned her back on the team. And as noted, there's no reason to think she belonged on that 23-person roster. She's just wants more attention for her own personal anti-gay cause ... but it's the gay girl who's getting the attention Hinkle wants.

 

[cabse5]

Both my posts stand. What are you confused about?

Would you mind if those old, white, men who made heath care decisions for women were doctors?

Anyone but 5 deferment cadet fake bone spurs <anyone but Trump>. A ham sandwich even. (Kosher). Did you see the crew that were making womens healthcare decisions? All old white men led by the orange don. Not exactly representative of the women their policies will effect.