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U.S. unemployment falls to 7.5% in April [W: 348, 360]

It's ridiculous to claim that growth of nearly 300 thousand jobs in a month is bad. And the reason I pointed out that it's rightwingers who are doing it is because I don't see anyone on the left complaining about adding nearly 300 thousand jobs in a month. It doesn't matter if they're low paying jobs. Most people who earned a good salary before losing their job won't even take a low paying job unless it's out of desperation, so more likely than not, the portion of those nearly 300 thousand jobs which were low paying, went to people who were looking for such jobs.

But the bottom line is, the job market is growing and it has been growing for some time now. Are we back to where we were? No. But then when you lose 13 million jobs to under/unemployment and discouraged workers, as we did in 2008 and 2009, it takes time to completelky recover from a disaster like that. And it's rightwingers (not all, but many) who, despite growth in almost every month over the last 3 years, are the ones who hunt for bad news in the job market, even when the news is good. Folks like them don't want the economy to recover because they don't want Obama to get any credit. They're diehard supply-siders whose worst nightmare is to see any keynesian economics prove to be productive.
 

Not with you....I prefer an honest debate.
 

So basically, you're just cherry picking the negative parts. The Goods Producing Industries dropped employment (though residential construction employment went up), while all the gains were private service producing. Not the best of trends, but it's still more jobs. And Goods Producing dropped 9,000 (not statistically significant) while service industries increased 185,000 (which is statistically significant).

And while the U6 did go up, the U4 went down and the U5 stayed flat. So while Discouraged went up, all other marginally attached went down.
 

If you think service industry jobs are as remotely as important to America's future as manufacturing/construction jobs...then you have not a clue what you are talking about.

Obviously if you throw trillions of government debt dollars around (through the Fed and fiscal deficits) you are going to create a lot of service industry jobs...that's a no brainer.

But creating an environment that encourages Americans to manufacture and construct 'things' in a profitable manner is the key to a healthy economic future...not lots of debt based, service jobs.

And the only U-numbers I care about are U-3 (because the masses fixate on it) and the U-6 (which offers the broadest figure).


Have a nice day.
 
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If you think service industry jobs are as remotely as important to America's future as manufacturing/construction jobs...then you have not a clue what you are talking about.
Perhaps you should read my posts more carefully. You seem to have missed the part where I said "Not the best of trends, but it's still more jobs. "

But creating an environment that encourages Americans to manufacture and construct 'things' in a profitable manner is the key to a healthy economic future...not lots of debt based, service jobs.
But is it better or worse than no jobs?
 
Perhaps you should read my posts more carefully. You seem to have missed the part where I said "Not the best of trends, but it's still more jobs. "

But is it better or worse than no jobs?

I read it (unlike you, I read and understand as best I can posts that I quote/reply).

I also read the rest which suggested you were putting too much importance on mostly debt-based, service jobs.

Hence my reply.


Have a nice day.
 
I read it (unlike you, I read and understand as best I can posts that I quote/reply).

I also read the rest which suggested you were putting too much importance on mostly debt-based, service jobs..

You didn't understand very well then, if you got that idea from my post. Or by "too much importance" do you mean "not dismissing entirely?"
 
You didn't understand very well then, if you got that idea from my post. Or by "too much importance" do you mean "not dismissing entirely?"

I meant what I typed.

Now if you excuse me, debating/chatting with closed minded people, (such as you seem to be on this subject) I find a complete waste of time.


Have a nice day.
 
I meant what I typed.

Now if you excuse me, debating/chatting with closed minded people, (such as you seem to be on this subject) I find a complete waste of time.


Have a nice day.

I find it interesting that you refuse to consider that you might ever be less than fully clear in what you write and when asked to clarify, refuse to do so. And at the same time you stand by any misinterpretations you have and refuse to consider that you might have misunderstood. And then call me close-minded.

Look, no one's saying the economy is great (and if anyone is, they're wrong), but it is clearly getting better than it was last year and the year before. Growth in the service industry might not be the optimum place for growth, but it is still growth and it's still more jobs.
 

Right there you proved you do not understand America's economy. The economy is getting worse.

But then, most 'economists' (like Krugman for example) don't understand the economy either.


The U-6 went up and all those debt-fed, service jobs are is stagnation justification.

Clearly you do not understand...but you are civil, I give you that.

History will show that the economy is heading for a cliff.

You don't agree - we shall see.


Have a nice day.
 
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WTF???

The U6 is down to 13.9% from 14.5% a year ago and you think the economy is getting worse because it ticked up by 1/10th of one percent in one month?? Trends mean nothing to you, do they?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

And no, the economy is not "heading for a cliff." Unemployment is just one metric used to determine the health of the economy. And unemployment is dropping. Another is GDP, which was at 2.5% last quarter. Not great, but not "heading for a cliff."
 

Obviously you don't really understand things or you'd agree with him. There's no debate...if he says it, it's true, and clearly people who actually have degrees in economics and have studied the trends and patterns don't know what they're talking about if they disagree with his casual observation.
 

You forgot to have a nice day. :lamo
 
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Jobs Report: Unemployment Rate Rises to 7.6 Percent - ABC News

 
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