Doesn't really explain to me why CONGRESS hasn't brought the issue up...
Many on Obama's side are not happy about his not getting authority. But I haven't seen any protesters. No signs with the guy ordering 5-beers either.
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Many on Obama's side are not happy about his not getting authority. But I haven't seen any protesters. No signs with the guy ordering 5-beers either.
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Nope, not at all. Just noting that I have been rather disappointed with the President I voted for in recent months, compared to when I was nodding my head at every great speech he made.
I am not surprised. I had read much about Obama before deciding to vote for him. I learned that he was not near as left leaning as I would have preferred. He has always been very much a pragmatist, nevery letting perfection get in the way of a smaller than ideal gain. Given that, the mess he inherited from the last administration, and everything he's done having to get a super-majority in Congress, I am more surprised that he has been able to accomplish what he has.
Everyone was informed as to what would be involved in establishing a no-fly zone. I am not saying it was the right decision for NATO to take, but you can't claim anyone, that has been paying attention, didn't know what it would involve. If Congress is opposed to our support in the NATO action, I think they should defund it.
Brussels, 21 March - The US administration's hopes to steer NATO into taking responsibility for the military aggression against Libya ...
...Given that NATO decisions must be taken unanimously, the fact that Germany and Turkey, as non-permanent members of the Security Council had not voted in favour of resolution 1973 authorizing the imposition of a no-fly zone on Libya
...France, which had taken the lead in attacking Libya and quite bluntly throws its military weight into the camp of the anti-government militias, refuses to continue its campaign against the North African country under a NATO umbrella instead of under its own supreme command.
Arab Monitor - Sito di informazione dal mondo arabo
Oh, you mean the mandatory health care thing? Yea, that would definitely require a super majority in congress, because certainly the super majority of Americans don't support it. Funny how the representatives are supposed to represent us, yet their votes don't. Who the hell are they voting on behalf of?
It's not a NATO action as far I could understand.
NationalJournal.com - During Gates's Visit, Russian Defense Minister Calls for Immediate Cease-Fire - Tuesday, March 22, 2011
China calls for immediate cease-fire in Libya, after days of allied airstrikes - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
WRAPUP 1-Emerging powers join in opposition over Libya strikes | Energy & Oil | Reuters
what has obama gotten himself into?
he has no clue
Not even close. I'm going to use this as a one-stop-shopping argument over and over:I personally don't support the intervention, but really the rationale for getting involved in Libya is a lot more sound than the rationale for invading Iraq.
1. You folks complained Bush 41 didn't go all the way to Baghdad. He should have but the UN Res didn't permit it. What happened? Saddam cleansed those who tried to overthrow him. Where were you Libs then?
2. Clinton, the Dem leadership warned about Saddam and Clinton sent Cohen around to prepare the nation for war. Clinton preferred to watch the Inspectors get their asses kicked out.
3. Blix testified about Saddam's lack of cooperation, the fact they found weaponized WMD when he said they hadn't any, and the unbelievability of Saddam.
4. David Kay reported to the Senate ASC that the state was so degraded the likelihood of a terrorist getting WMD in Iraq was a real possibility, if it didn't happen already.
5. Saddam was going to reconstitute his weapons program.
6. Learn the lessons of history. Had Churchill been listened to in the early 30's WWII may have been averted. We know not what Bush43 averted, but we do know Saddam isn't a threat and they don't have WMD.
7. Two benefits from that war were: the finding and ending of nuke blackmarket and getting all of Gaddafi's nuke technology.
Now, did you want to say something about your Lib Warmonger?
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I'll tell you why. Obama's a Lib. It's that simple. If this were Bush or Reagan... it would be worldwide... right now.I suspect that's why there aren't crazy protesters out there.
I'm not going to disagree, and it should have been done weeks ago when the rebels were making progress.But I think after the UN voted to enforce an NFZ, then Congress should have at least VOTED on a declaration of war, as the imposition of an NFZ is essentially an act of war. Where the **** is Congress in all this? At least we should've gotten a reading up or down.
update, 3:52 pm, eastern: we're back to REGIME CHANGE
White House: Helping install 'a democratic system' is goal in Libya - TheHill.com
We know the American religious far right views diplomacy as weakness. Whether or not their Islamic cousins do so or not is less certain.
update, 3:52 pm, eastern: we're back to REGIME CHANGE
White House: Helping install 'a democratic system' is goal in Libya - TheHill.com
NationalJournal.com - During Gates's Visit, Russian Defense Minister Calls for Immediate Cease-Fire - Tuesday, March 22, 2011
China calls for immediate cease-fire in Libya, after days of allied airstrikes - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
WRAPUP 1-Emerging powers join in opposition over Libya strikes | Energy & Oil | Reuters
what has obama gotten himself into?
he has no clue
No, I agreed with you that I think Obama should have gotten Congressional approval as well as UN approval. Obama is more of a war hawk than i would have liked in a president, but the only other viable choice was someone even more of a war hawk, so what are you gonna do?
Do you think Congress should cut off funding for this endeavor until they've had a chance to make their decision on the matter? I will support you in that call if you like.
They all know that Obama is a *****. When the leader of The Free World is a *****, it invites the assholes of the world to start trouble.
Julian Assange can't even put on a condom without leaking.I thought Julian Assange is the current leader of the Free World. When did Obama take that job?
Not even close. I'm going to use this as a one-stop-shopping argument over and over:
I'll tell you why. Obama's a Lib. It's that simple. If this were Bush or Reagan... it would be worldwide... right now.
Oh nice way to twist the facts. Resolution 1441 had a 15-0 vote so more support than obummer has. But don't let facts get in the way!
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