U.S. Hit and Run Controversy

[Hatuey]

A 78 year old man was hit by a car and not a single motorist stopped to help.

Yahoo!

This is sickening. Your thoughts?

 

[mikhail]

A 78 year old man was hit by a car and not a single motorist stopped to help.

Yahoo!

This is sickening. Your thoughts?

the link wont play over here you got another link?

 

[Hatuey]

the link wont play over here you got another link?

FOXNews.com - Video of Gruesome Hit-and-Run Released by Connecticut Police - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

The chilling scene — captured on video by a streetlight surveillance camera — has touched off a round of soul-searching in Hartford, with the capital city's biggest newspaper blaring "SO INHUMANE" on the front page and the police chief lamenting: "We no longer have a moral compass."

"We have no regard for each other," said Chief Daryl Roberts, who on Wednesday released the video in hopes of making an arrest in the accident that left Angel Arce Torres in critical condition.

However, Roberts and other city officials backtracked on Thursday. After initially saying he was unsure whether anyone called 911, he and other city officials appeared at a news conference in which they said that four people dialed 911 within a minute of the accident, and that Torres received medical attention shortly after that.

Here is the article by FOX News - I couldn't find the video on Yahoo!U.S. only on Yahoo!Canada.

 

[mikhail]

FOXNews.com - Video of Gruesome Hit-and-Run Released by Connecticut Police - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News



Here is the article by FOX News - I couldn't find the video on Yahoo!U.S. only on Yahoo!Canada.

It says in the story people did help and call 911.

 

[Hatuey]

It says in the story people did help and call 911.

It's not that people stopped to help. The motorist who hit him kept going. Just like several other motorists. I don't know about you but I've driven by accidents and my first thought is to stop and call 911. Not just keep going.

 

[mikhail]

It's not that people stopped to help. The motorist who hit him kept going. Just like several other motorists. I don't know about you but I've driven by accidents and my first thought is to stop and call 911. Not just keep going.

Yea i agree i think societies have become so concerned with self empowerment they have forgot where all in this together. I cant talk to most people about things like the crisis in darfur without boring them to death yet the think the fact their house value has lost 10% should be viewed as an injustice and fascinating to me.

 

[Kali]

I think the media have over hyped this thing into something that it is not because people did call 911, people did call for help and when people are injured like that? You are not suppose to touch them much less crowd around them. We have all heard about what you are not suppose to do. Having said all that? I guess what bugs me is that even though I know you are not suppose to try to move, touch them, etc. I did not see one person really walk right up to this man, bend down and talk to him.

I would have had to have went up this man, sat down in that damn street by his side and talked to that man telling him to hang in there til help got there because that kind of thing can save someones life: having someone telling you to hang on! Nobody that I saw even bothered to do that and if that man had died laying out on that street he may have died thinking nobody cares and that breaks my heart!

 

[rivrrat]

Guess it's just the EMT and common decency in me.. but I couldn't have just driven or walked off. Even if I didn't have medical skills, I still could have diverted traffic, helped to make sure he didn't get hit again, and try to thwart another accident. As well as just talk to the guy.

I eyeball vehicles who have their flashers on on the side of the road and make sure they have a cell phone. Before cells were so common, I would stop and see if someone needed a ride to a phone, etc.

But, I'm also from small towns. We're nicer.

If I broke down on I15 out here in Cali, I wouldn't expect that a single person would even consider to stop and help me. If I did back home, I'd have dozens stopping to help.

 

[Kali]

The sad thing since this story broke? I am seeing people bringing up more and more stories like this and I really did not know it is so common for people to do nothing like this. It is scary and sad.

 

[Jerry]

A 78 year old man was hit by a car and not a single motorist stopped to help.

Yahoo!

This is sickening. Your thoughts?

This isn't news.

 

[WI Crippler]

But, I'm also from small towns. We're nicer.

If I broke down on I15 out here in Cali, I wouldn't expect that a single person would even consider to stop and help me. If I did back home, I'd have dozens stopping to help.

Thats the truth. Out here, if somebody is laying on the road, you are going to check on them. Hell during the winter, if I see a car in the ditch I stop and check to see if there is anybody in the car yet, and if they need help. Sometimes there is nobody in the car, and a few times there was but they already called for help and no one was injured.

In a big city, people just don't care about each other.

 

[Thorgasm]

Thats the truth. Out here, if somebody is laying on the road, you are going to check on them. Hell during the winter, if I see a car in the ditch I stop and check to see if there is anybody in the car yet, and if they need help. Sometimes there is nobody in the car, and a few times there was but they already called for help and no one was injured.

In a big city, people just don't care about each other.

People don't want to get involved due to fear of being sued or retaliation for being a witness. That and they are self-centered.

 

[rivrrat]

People don't want to get involved due to fear of being sued or retaliation for being a witness. That and they are self-centered.

The average person is protected by good samartin (sp? and I don't feel like looking it up) laws. As someone with medical training, I am not protected by such laws. So, that's really no excuse, IMO.

 

[vvx]

Usually if I see an accident I just keep driving.

911 probably gets a hundred calls for every accident I see. Probably a few thousand idiots slow down to 5mph to gawk and try to see a dead person. I'd hate to think what the total cost in wasted resources is for a single traffic accident on I-5 because of people who just want to see a dead person.

Now if I'm far enough outside the city that there isn't constant traffic I do check on people in those situations. After all if I'm the only car going to be going down that road for 30 minutes it might take a while for someone to notice.

 

[Bodi]

It says in the story people did help and call 911.

The video worked for me and Nobody helped at all. One guy walked out and took a picture even.

The two cars, one that clipped the old guy and the one that plowed him over both just kept rolling and, in fact, they kinda sped up and took off.

The cop rolls up within about 30 seconds, as it turns out.

 

[Bodi]

Usually if I see an accident I just keep driving.

911 probably gets a hundred calls for every accident I see. Probably a few thousand idiots slow down to 5mph to gawk and try to see a dead person. I'd hate to think what the total cost in wasted resources is for a single traffic accident on I-5 because of people who just want to see a dead person.

Now if I'm far enough outside the city that there isn't constant traffic I do check on people in those situations. After all if I'm the only car going to be going down that road for 30 minutes it might take a while for someone to notice.

In this case though, somebody should have at least walked out and stopped traffic or stood as guard for the guy. Cars are still zipping past.

I always stop, but I have some medical training too.

 

[Thorgasm]

The average person is protected by good samartin (sp? and I don't feel like looking it up) laws. As someone with medical training, I am not protected by such laws. So, that's really no excuse, IMO.

Hey, I would stop. I am not sure Good Samaritan laws are on the books everywhere. But people should have stopped traffic at the very least.

Edit:

Not that he deserved to get hit, but 78 year old people should probably stick to crosswalks.

 

[stevenb]

Usually if I see an accident I just keep driving.

911 probably gets a hundred calls for every accident I see. Probably a few thousand idiots slow down to 5mph to gawk and try to see a dead person. I'd hate to think what the total cost in wasted resources is for a single traffic accident on I-5 because of people who just want to see a dead person.

Now if I'm far enough outside the city that there isn't constant traffic I do check on people in those situations. After all if I'm the only car going to be going down that road for 30 minutes it might take a while for someone to notice.

This is actually a syndrome.

There have been a few studies that conclude that the more people are around an "accident" the less likely they are to call 911, because they also think that someone else will handle the accident / call 911.

We have laws in AZ that if you leave the scene of an accident and they can prove that you could have helped.. they can take your ass to jail over it. Good Samaritan Laws.

Personally, I stop and help anytime I can. I remember comforting a guy that took a spill on his motorcycle on the i10w.. while ****ing cars whizzed by us in the middle of the freeway.

I guess mankind is going down the ****ter these days.

 

[jallman]

A 78 year old man was hit by a car and not a single motorist stopped to help.

Yahoo!

This is sickening. Your thoughts?

It is sickening and it says a lot about the selfishness ingrained in our society. Last fall, here in the Bay area, there was a huge traffic jam one morning. I got to work and found out it was because the police had to stop traffic on a stretch of highway to clean up the body that had been being run over by motorists from 4AM to about 6AM. When questioned by a radio station, one of the motorists said they just thought it was an animal. When did it even become okay to just keep running over an animal. It's disturbing.

 

[talloulou]

I watched the video. The two cars driving on the wrong side of the road are crazy. I wonder what was going on with them? Why were they on the wrong side of the road?

In any event I don't think we're as bad as the video makes us out to be. If you watch it, the two cards speeding down the wrong side of the road, take off. But the car immediately behind them pulls right over. That car does stop, plain as day. The car behind that car might not have seen what happened, the next few cars slow down and the crowd of people are gathering in the street. The motorcycle, which I assume is a cop, is there right quick.

I don't view this as a case of people not helping. Those people gathered in the street quickly. They weren't gonna allow the guy to get hit repeatedly. The car immediately following the two that hit the guy pulled over. The cop came.

It's a disgusting accident and the two cars on the wrong side of the road that hit the guy are despicable but this is not a situation where bystanders and those passing by completely ignore what is happening.

 

[talloulou]

Actually I watched it again and it goes....two cars hit the guy, next car immediately pulls over, next car slowly passes, motorcycle is immediately behind that car. Motorcycle pulls over. All the while crowd gathers. Guy wasn't ignored.

 

[Bodi]

Actually I watched it again and it goes....two cars hit the guy, next car immediately pulls over, next car slowly passes, motorcycle is immediately behind that car. Motorcycle pulls over. All the while crowd gathers. Guy wasn't ignored.

We didn't watch the same video apparently, because both cars (the one that clipped the old guy and the one that plowed him into the air) both just took off and made that right hand turn. the Mo-Ped guy checks it out and leaves and the other bystander is taking pictures with his cell phone camera. When the cop car arrives everybody disperses slowly.

Not one person helped.
not one person even bent over to see how he was doing, let alone help.
He was left to live or die by the bystanders.

 

[talloulou]

We didn't watch the same video apparently, because both cars (the one that clipped the old guy and the one that plowed him into the air) both just took off and made that right hand turn. the Mo-Ped guy checks it out and leaves and the other bystander is taking pictures with his cell phone camera. When the cop car arrives everybody disperses slowly.

Not one person helped.
not one person even bent over to see how he was doing, let alone help.
He was left to live or die by the bystanders.

The two cars that took off seemed like they were chasing each other or something and you're right neither of them stopped. But the car right after them pulled right the hell over. When you watch the video concentrate on the third car and you'll see it pull over right at the scene. You miss it if you concentrate on the two arseholes that hit the guy. The Mo-Ped almost looks like a cop to me but maybe not. But you're not seeing the whole scene. He obviously pulls over and then he looks and then moves slowly out of camera. For all you know the guy is stopping traffic, blocking off the area, ect. You don't know that he looked and left. He left camera doesn't mean he necessarily exited the scene.

Your hysterical assertion that the guy was left to die is absurd. Numerous people called 911 and according to various stories the cops were there fairly quickly. No one left anyone to die. The video shows two complete dickheads but the other people are certainly not ignoring anything. Watch it again.

Also there's no sound so you don't hear anything happening. The absence of sound and the fact that you only see 1 side of the street and a small area manipulates what you're seeing. The third car, the one driving normally and not on the wrong side of the road pulls over. Watch it again. The moped pulled over. You have no proof the guy left the scene. Maybe moped man drove off camera to help organize traffic and make sure with the holdup no one else drives down the wrong side of the street and hits the guy again. In reality if moped guy was doing that he was serving the injured fellow better than if he had got off his bike and knelt down weeping at the guys side.


4 calls were immediately made to 911. To say the man was ignored by bystanders, passerbys, ect and left to die in the street is hysterical hogwash put out to sell newspapers.

 

[Bodi]

The two cars that took off seemed like they were chasing each other or something and you're right neither of them stopped. But the car right after them pulled right the hell over. When you watch the video concentrate on the third car and you'll see it pull over right at the scene. You miss it if you concentrate on the two arseholes that hit the guy. The Mo-Ped almost looks like a cop to me but maybe not. But you're not seeing the whole scene. He obviously pulls over and then he looks and then moves slowly out of camera. For all you know the guy is stopping traffic, blocking off the area, ect. You don't know that he looked and left. He left camera doesn't mean he necessarily exited the scene.

Your hysterical assertion that the guy was left to die is absurd. Numerous people called 911 and according to various stories the cops were there fairly quickly. No one left anyone to die. The video shows two complete dickheads but the other people are certainly not ignoring anything. Watch it again.

Also there's no sound so you don't hear anything happening. The absence of sound and the fact that you only see 1 side of the street and a small area manipulates what you're seeing. The third car, the one driving normally and not on the wrong side of the road pulls over. Watch it again. The moped pulled over. You have no proof the guy left the scene. Maybe moped man drove off camera to help organize traffic and make sure with the holdup no one else drives down the wrong side of the street and hits the guy again. In reality if moped guy was doing that he was serving the injured fellow better than if he had got off his bike and knelt down weeping at the guys side.


4 calls were immediately made to 911. To say the man was ignored by bystanders, passerbys, ect and left to die in the street is hysterical hogwash put out to sell newspapers.

Hysterical? :lol:

I have saved too many peoples lives and been in too many hairy situations to get panicked.
I am not sure that I have ever been mistaken as being hysterical in my life...
But OKaaay...

It just looks like the guy is being observed as if it is a freak show.
Perhaps people were stunned? Who knows?
Perhaps that moped guy was going to stop traffic?

I doubt it. Most of the time, as I have stopped traffic at dozens and dozens of accidents, you do not move to far from the victim initially, until safety measures can be set up and you also go first to the side of traffic that would be approaching him. Best on foot. Really. More control than being on a scooter.

Yeah, that other car pulls over and people call 911, but nobody really seems concerned enough to see if he needs immediate help. Maybe it is just me... I am a helper. I move in and take over an injury scene, even before I was trained. Done it many times prior to training. It is all good.

I move. I save things. People. Animals. I don't watch. Ever. That is just me though.

:2razz:

 

[talloulou]

I move. I save things. People. Animals. I don't watch. Ever. That is just me though.

:2razz:

I use to be like that but now when it comes to car accidents I don't do anything. That's Tom Cruise's job. When it comes to car accidents he's the only one who can do anything.