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U.S. effort to stabilize Afghanistan is $5 billion failure, watchdog says

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U.S. effort to stabilize Afghanistan is $5 billion failure, watchdog says




Sobering, yet not unexpected.
 
5 Billion? :lamo How astronomically stupid does the author have to be to think we've only wasted 5 billion in Afghanistan? We've wasted directly hundreds of billions and indirectly trillions in Afghanistan. Nobody bats an eye at this but when Bernie says we should spend a tiny fraction of this on actual Americans instead it's hysteria and cries of socialist unicorn fantasy time. You have ****ty ass priorities, America.
 
Afghanistan... 16 years, 3 Administrations and associated Congresses, tens of thousands dead, hundreds of thousands injured, overwhelmed VA, Billions spent... no end in sight, and still a mess.

When will we learn?
 


We have the ‘best’ priorities money can buy!
 
No more undeclared wars with no exit strategy planned in advance.
 
They want the region destabilized
 
Afghanistan... 16 years, 3 Administrations and associated Congresses, tens of thousands dead, hundreds of thousands injured, overwhelmed VA, Billions spent... no end in sight, and still a mess.

When will we learn?

Many of us knew as it began that it would end this way. That is, some part of the population DOES learn from history. We supposedly "learned a lesson" in Vietnam, and the whole world watched Russia fail in Afghanistan. Alexander the Great failed in Afghanistan.

The Global War On Terror is a hoax, and many people have been pointing that out since it began. It was brought under fraud, plain and simple.

But hell, it's been wonderful for the bottom line of war profiteers. Yes George, Mission Accomplished!
 

The ting is alexander the great actually did good there, it was the religious supercenter of the world specifically the balk province. However we chose to dispose of the northern alliance whic was experienced at fighting the taliban and baced by both eastern and weastern govts, because we did not want moderate islamic rule.

The problem is moderate rule is the best you could hope for there. The country is ruled by tribal factions and village elders, trying to form a central govt that runs all will fail, they run more like feudalism, where the leader has the support of the local govts, and the local govts act by their elders word.
 

The bigger "problem" is that we invaded that country under fraud, and in violation of numerous international agreements. And of course another big problem is what it has done to our treasury, both of money and good young men. And course equipment and morale.

Other than legitimate trade interests with the people of Afghanistan, we have no business there.
 

What was the "fraud"?
 
What was the "fraud"?

I am wondering the same. Considering what took place on 9/11/01, the war in Afghanistan is 100% justified. My only problem with that war is that we are are not doing what it would take to bring the war to a quicker conclusion. In that way it is similar to Vietnam. As long as we continue allow the Taliban to slip back over the Pakistani border to re-arm, and regroup, the war will never end. They will just wait us out. Part of winning a war is cutting off your enemy's supply lines by any means necessary. If that means going into Pakistan to clean out the tribal areas that support the Taliban, so be it.
 

It's not as straight forward as that.................


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...egality-in-the-us-led-invasion-of-afghanistan

Add to that the requirement to exhaust all peaceful means and proportionality etc etc and it becomes a whole lot more like an illegal attack

Maybe an aerial assault on the Al Qaeda bases there might have stayed within the law but an outright invasion and subsequent decade plus long occupation of a country , can't see that being legal/justified

You seem happy , if we factor in your wish to see Pakistan attacked ( legality ? ) , to spend a shed load more money killing people around the world but will most likely fight like hell against any attempt to see a tiny fraction of that money used to brighten the lives of your fellow countrymen ,women and kids . Is that a fair/accurate assessment of your position ?
 

Yes, considering what took place on 911.

What took place that day was not caused by anybody or anything in Afghanistan, so how do you justify our invasion there? Why was it brought under fraud? Why did the heads of the commission state in public they were set up to fail? Why did that commission state 63 times that "we found no evidence" supporting various claims of that fantasy?
 

Incorrect...

Afghanistan sheltered Bin Ladin who was most definitely involved with the 9/11 attacks.
 
Incorrect...

Afghanistan sheltered Bin Ladin who was most definitely involved with the 9/11 attacks.

Nothing to say about the complete waste of money , not to mention the war crimes carried out in Afghanistan ?

Did Afghanistan attack the USA on 9/11 ?
 

That would destabilize nuclear armed Pakistan. Not a good idea. You sound like Bolton. A better idea would be to boycott Saudi oil and deprive the Taliban of the Saudi funds that created them and is still their main source of funding. Saudi's also comprised most of the 911 terrorists but that did not stop Trump from siding with them over our REAL allies in the Iran agreement. It must be all their money.
 
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Nothing to say about the complete waste of money , not to mention the war crimes carried out in Afghanistan ?

Did Afghanistan attack the USA on 9/11 ?

Osama Bin Ladin was instrumental in the attacks and was protected by Afghanistan.

Oh, and what "war crimes"?
 
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