• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

U.S. aims to block Chinese acquisition of Ukraine's Motor Sich aerospace giant

Rogue Valley

Lead or get out of the way
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 18, 2013
Messages
112,063
Reaction score
102,216
Location
Barsoom
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
U.S. aims to block Chinese acquisition of Ukraine's Motor Sich aerospace giant

1493307524-8020_edit.jpg

The Motor Sich plant in Zaporizhia, Ukraine.

8/25/19
U.S. national security adviser John Bolton is seeking to scuttle the pending Chinese acquisition of a Ukrainian aerospace company on grounds that it will give Beijing vital defense technology, according to senior U.S. administration officials familiar with the matter. Bolton's personal interest and involvement in the deal, acknowledged by the senior administration officials, underscores the growing importance of this case to the U.S. national-security establishment, according to The Wall Street Journal. The company, Motor Sich, is one of the world’s foremost manufacturers of helicopter and airplane engines, and for years has supplied engines for the bulk of the Russian military-helicopter fleet. A sale to a group of companies, including Beijing Skyrizon Aviation, controlled by Chinese businessman Wang Jing, is pending. U.S. officials are working to schedule a meeting between John Bolton and Motor Sich's top executive next week in Ukraine's capital, where Mr. Bolton is set to attend a security conference, according to a senior administration official.

A Chinese aviation industry investment company reportedly renewed its attempt to acquire stakes in Motor Sich, a Ukrainian aircraft engine manufacturer, which has built engines for the world's largest transport aircraft the An-225 Mriya. Skyrizon would own more than 50% of Motor Sich if the acquisition works. China has 13 types and more than 1,200 aircraft engines built by Motor Sich, the note said. Established in 1907, Motor Sich is considered one of the largest advanced aircraft engine manufacturers in the world and produces engines including turbofans, turboshafts and turboprops. China still lags behind the world’s top level in aeroengines, an anonymous military expert told the Global Times.

This is one of the premier aerospace engine companies in the world. The engines of almost every Russian plane and helicopter you see were manufactured by Motor Sich. But the company has fallen on hard times due to the war and subsequent loss of the Russian aerospace industry. Beijing certainly recognizes the potential here. Apparently the US also recognizes the huge potential of Motor Sich. Hopefully, a deal can be worked out to prevent this asset from falling into Chinese hands.
 
Some here may remember when Japan wanted to buy everything. There's a huge difference in scale compared to China, but the troubling thing here is what China clearly intends to do with such acquisitions, given their hegemonic aims.
 
About the only thing the US can do about a Chinese company buying a Ukrainian company is complain about it.

I get the concern, but I would not hold out much hope of the US being able to do anything about this.
 
About the only thing the US can do about a Chinese company buying a Ukrainian company is complain about it.

I get the concern, but I would not hold out much hope of the US being able to do anything about this.

The US could buy it instead

Of course it would then be shut down, providing a short term boost for the Ukrainian economy followed by a longer term decline. Leaving the engineers with no work. Allowing Chinese companies to hire them and gain the experience
 
Perhaps Bolton could convince a US defense contractor to acquire Motor Sich.

It would be a good investment and the technology is world class. Close to the European markets also.
 
An American corp. can buy it then Trump can 'hereby order' it to leave the Ukraine?

That wouldn't make much sense. It is fine were it is, positioned in Europe and the huge EU market.

Motor Sich is in the same aerospace engine class as GE, Pratt and Whitney, Rolls Royce, and Northrop Grumman.

The Chinese could shave 20 years off their aircraft/helicopter/drone engine R&D technology by acquiring this company.
 
That wouldn't make much sense. It is fine were it is, positioned in Europe and the huge EU market.

Motor Sich is in the same aerospace engine class as GE, Pratt and Whitney, Rolls Royce, and Northrop Grumman.

The Chinese could shave 20 years off their aircraft/helicopter/drone engine R&D technology by acquiring this company.

I guess my joke kind of fell flat..

He 'hereby orders' to come home it because it's not in the US? No? Lol
 
I guess my joke kind of fell flat..

He 'hereby orders' to come home it because it's not in the US? No? Lol

Ahh. My bad then. :3oops:

I usually don't get to experience much humor in this sub-forum.

Putin apologists/trolls are all business.
 
EC-2-5wXkAEUYR0.jpg


Bolton brings flowers to lay at the Wall of Heroes in Kyiv.
 
Up In Arms: Ukrainian Aircraft-Engine Plant Caught Up In U.S.-China Rivalry

D17D6F19-BF7C-4226-BE77-E657A55AFC1B_w650_r0_s.jpg

A turbojet engine produced by the Motor Sich company.

8/27/19
WASHINGTON -- Ukrainian tycoon Vyacheslav Boguslayev is having a hard time parting with the company he has controlled for the past three decades, and it's not just because it is close to his heart. The 80-year old is caught up in the global rivalry between the United States and China as he seeks to sell his defense company, Motor Sich. At stake for Ukraine is potentially billions of dollars of investment from China, thousands of jobs, and eventual membership in NATO, analysts say. The possible sale of Motor Sich -- a maker of engines for missiles, helicopters, and jets -- to the Chinese provoked a raid of its Zaporizhzhya headquarters by Ukraine's Security Service in early 2018 and the seizure of its shares. The issue has become so important to Washington that U.S. national-security adviser John Bolton said he will raise his "concerns" about the sale during his current visit to Ukraine. "This is an issue that I think is significant for Ukraine, but [also] significant for the U.S., for Europe, for Japan, for Australia, Canada, other countries," Bolton told RFE/RL in Kyiv on August 27.
China is using its "trade surpluses to gain economic leverage in countries around the world, to profit from defense technologies that others have developed," Bolton said.

Ukrainian media reported on August 19 that two Chinese firms had reached an agreement with state-owned military concern Ukroboronprom to jointly purchase the engine maker. No price was disclosed. Ukroboronprom Chairman Aivaras Abromavicius declined to comment. The Chinese companies would receive a controlling stake, while Ukroboronprom would receive at least a 25 percent blocking stake, according to Ukrainian media. The Chinese firms are believed to be close to the government in Beijing. Motor Sich, which employs more than 20,000 people in the southwestern city of Zaporizhzhya, is one of the world's largest makers of helicopter and airplane engines. Its products are used to fly the Mi family of choppers, as well as Antonov cargo jets. It is one of the few plants in the former Soviet Union that can build an entire aviation engine from scratch and offers a wide variety of products that "fit the Chinese requirements really well," said Reuben Johnson, a military analyst based in Kyiv. Motor Sich declined to comment on any talks with other potential partners. US defense consultant Johnson said Washington has taken "too long" to act and needs to quickly figure out what Motor Sich "can do well for us and our allies" if it wants to come up with an alternative to a Chinese takeover. Hurak said Washington has woken up to the immediacy of the situation. "The strategic importance of Motor Sich was known for a long time, but until now, no one was treating it so seriously," Hurak said. "I think the U.S. is finally serious." Motor Sich was valued at nearly $500 million when it ceased trading on the stock market. Only a handful of people in Ukraine could afford to buy it at that valuation.

Now that the US has finally realized what was happening, it can apply leverage on Kyiv to stop this sale.

More than anything else, the Chinese want Motor Sich for its ability to design and manufacture cruise missile engines.
 
Chinese envoy tells U.S. not to meddle in Ukraine's affairs – media

The Chinese holding Beijing Skyrizon Aviation is interested in buying more than 50% stake of Zaporizhia-based JSC Motor Sich.

a-64.jpg

A tour group inside the Motor Sich plant.

8/30/19
China's ambassador to Ukraine, Du Wei, told the United States on Friday not to interfere in Kyiv's affairs. The statement came two days after U.S. President Donald Trump's national security adviser John Bolton told Ukraine to avoid being lured into China's orbit by what he called Beijing's "debt diplomacy" amid a Chinese move to buy a Ukrainian aerospace giant, as reported by Reuters. As reported earlier, the Chinese holding Beijing Skyrizon Aviation is interested in buying more than 50% stake of Zaporizhia-based JSC Motor Sich. Ukraine's state-run Ukroboronprom military-industrial concern may get another 25% stake free of charge. The Anti-Monopoly Committee of Ukraine must approved the deal. According to media reports, the Chinese side is committed to contribute US$100 million to Ukraine's national budget for the development of the aircraft industry.

US National Security Adviser, John Bolton, came all the way to Ukraine this past week to lobby Kyiv to deny this sale to China.

Note the contrasting styles. Beijing will contribute $100 million to Ukraine's aerospace industry if the Motor Sich sale is successful.

Donald Trump is seriously considering blocking $250 million that the US Congress has already allocated to Ukraine for defense needs in the coming year (September 2019 to September 2020).

On top of that, Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani has been pressing the new Zelenskyy government to initiate [new] investigations against Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son. Hunter worked for a while in Ukraine. After an investigation last year, the Ukraine Prosecutor General's office cleared Hunter Biden of any criminal activity in Ukraine. Still, Giuliani is pressing this government to find dirt on Trumps political enemies.
 
Back
Top Bottom