Twitter Files Part 6 reveals FBI's ties to tech giant: 'As if it were a subsidiary'

[Michael Cole]

Part 7 out today.

Twitter Files Part 7: FBI, DOJ 'discredited' information about Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings

The latest "Twitter Files" released Monday delved into how the intelligence community "discredited factual information about Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings."

www.foxnews.com

Star Wars had 12 episodes. Musk should pass that next week.

The record is a Japanese film, Otoko wa Tsurai yo with 50 episodes. Next in line is an international favorite, Godzilla with 40 episodes.

Middle of January is my guess.

 

[Rawley]

Star Wars had 12 episodes. Musk should pass that next week.

The record is a Japanese film, Otoko wa Tsurai yo with 50 episodes. Next in line is an international favorite, Godzilla with 40 episodes.

Middle of January is my guess.

Keep whistling past that graveyard.

 

[Cardinal]

part 7 is pretty damn good.

If it's as "good" as the laptop story then I doubt it.

 

[gbg3]

And an initial quick take on Part 7, from the NYP editorial board. Thought I'd post it quickly before the article is "disappeared". After all, it is the NYP and they are the ones who told the true story from the beginning and created the need for so much censorship.

There are some interesting early comments about the article and situation one can access at the bottom of the link.

Evidence shows FBI, Biden campaign and Twitter worked together to suppress Hunter story

Members of the intelligence community, and censors at Twitter, stress that they just didn’t know the Hunter Biden laptop was real, so they erred on the side of caution. Now we know that was a lie.…

nypost.com

 

[Michael Cole]

Keep whistling past that graveyard.

Whistlin' Past the Graveyard is one episode of Grey's Anatomy, a TV series.

Whistle Past the Graveyard is one episode of Justified, another TV series.

Thanks for the recommendation but Musk passed these weeks ago.

 

[multivita-man]

Musk didnt cause that -it was like that before he took over, he's only shining daylight on it.
But I agree with you to the bolded. and keeping the heavy hand of the feds out of determinig what to pull down is the first step.
The hard part is reforming the law, to allow a true public square, withput fear of censorship or blacklisting

They're not acting as censors and none of that sensationalist crap Taibbi and Weiss is posting are going to convince me of it. The feds have routinely worked with media companies, tech companies, finance companies, to advise them of when they're being subjected to foreign-directed threats, be it information security, IP theft, espionage, and manipulation. FBI or DHS can't just pick up the phone and demand that Twitter or Facebook pull content -- if it did, it would simultaneously have the power to push content, which AFAIK hasn't been alleged.

 

[anatta]

They're not acting as censors and none of that sensationalist crap Taibbi and Weiss is posting are going to convince me of it. The feds have routinely worked with media companies, tech companies, finance companies, to advise them of when they're being subjected to foreign-directed threats, be it information security, IP theft, espionage, and manipulation. FBI or DHS can't just pick up the phone and demand that Twitter or Facebook pull content -- if it did, it would simultaneously have the power to push content, which AFAIK hasn't been alleged.

you seem to contradcit yourself about keeping the "heavy hand of the feds". These are Emails not "sensationalism"
and the tweets mentioned are not foreign based actor threats. But im not trying to convincne you

Yes that's basically what they did -Emailed instead of picking up the phone however. no demands. but coordiantion

 

[anatta]

We know who you "trust" and that makes your indignation moot. I don't know who has gotten to you but your knowledge of Russian talking points is quite extensive. I know that our institutions have been misused at times but this is not one of them.

I try to stay informed. NATO expansion/militarization of Ukraine isnt a talking point

 

[anatta]

In other words you want a repeat of the 2016 election where our authorities allowed Russian trolls posing as Americans to elect our President. Sorry comrade that is not going to happen ever again.

Russia’s ‘troll factory’ impersonates Americans to sow political chaos. How can the U.S. fight it?​

Well, there's a lot of things that we're alleging the Internet Research Agency did.

The main thing is that they posed as American citizens to amplify and spread content that is divisive in our society in order to in some cases pump up the Trump campaign, break down the Clinton campaign, or deflect the vote, suppress voter turnout, especially among minority groups, in order to create more chaos within our political system.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/r...impersonates-americans-to-sow-political-chaos

• Mueller’s report conspicuously does not allege that the Russian government carried out the social media campaign. Instead it blames, as Mueller said in his closing remarks, "a private Russian entity" known as the Internet Research Agency (IRA).
• Mueller also falls far short of proving that the Russian social campaign was sophisticated, or even more than minimally related to the 2016 election. As with the collusion and Russian hacking allegations, Democratic officials had a central and overlooked hand in generating the alarm about Russian social media activity.
• https://www.realclearinvestigations...ndercuts_its_core_russia-meddling_claims.html

 

[iguanaman]

when he feels like it... he said the poll would control whether he stepped down, he didn't say when.

From the poll results it could not be soon enough for Twitter users. Tesla stock went up at just the thought that Elon would stop destroying their market share.

• Mueller’s report conspicuously does not allege that the Russian government carried out the social media campaign. Instead it blames, as Mueller said in his closing remarks, "a private Russian entity" known as the Internet Research Agency (IRA).
• Mueller also falls far short of proving that the Russian social campaign was sophisticated, or even more than minimally related to the 2016 election. As with the collusion and Russian hacking allegations, Democratic officials had a central and overlooked hand in generating the alarm about Russian social media activity.
• https://www.realclearinvestigations...ndercuts_its_core_russia-meddling_claims.html

LOL Again with the Russian talking points. The IRA is a front for the Russian FSB just like Wikileaks.

The January 2017 report issued by the United States Intelligence Community – Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections – described the agency as a troll farm: "The likely financier of the so-called Internet Research Agency of professional trolls located in Saint Petersburg is a close ally of [Vladimir] Putin with ties to Russian intelligence," commenting that "they previously were devoted to supporting Russian actions in Ukraine—[and] started to advocate for President-elect Trump as early as December 2015."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency

 

[iguanaman]

I try to stay informed. NATO expansion/militarization of Ukraine isnt a talking point

No it is a result of Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Nothing anyone has done in 50 years has made such a difference in NATO's strength and size. It just shows that unintended consequences are a bitch and Putin brought it all on himself. Every country with a border with Russia will soon be NATO members. Many resisted because they felt it would be an escalation now they know better. Not being in NATO is an invitation to be invaded by Russia and that is quite clear now.

 

[multivita-man]

you seem to contradcit yourself about keeping the "heavy hand of the feds". These are Emails not "sensationalism"
and the tweets mentioned are not foreign based actor threats. But im not trying to convincne you

Yes that's basically what they did -Emailed instead of picking up the phone however. no demands. but coordiantion

Put some real investigative reporters on the case - like Bob Woodward instead of Hunter Thompson wannabes - and I might take the Twitter files more seriously. Matt Taibbi's not a real investigative reporter; he's a freelancer who's looking for notoriety and Musk just got him his meal ticket. Bari Weiss isn't credible either, given the fact that she blames Twitter for her deteriorating relationship with the NY Times, for him she worked from 2017-21. The Twitter files are just highly selective dumps of snippets that are taken out of context and twisted with innuendo - or in some cases outright blatant falsehoods.

Put some real reporters with a track record of reporting objectively and I'll take these 'files' more seriously. Until then, it's glorified shit posting and propaganda in Musk's name.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

If you're going to claim undue influence, then the fact the NY Post published the story knocks such a claim out of the water. What exactly aren't you understanding? It's a basic logical deduction.

The story was published, so any claims the FBI suppressed the story just aren't true.

The fact that the story was eventually published, doesn't mean the FBI didn't illegally supress the story else where. It did indeed succeeded in suppressing news stories where it had influence, just not every one.

 

[Hamish Howl]

This is nothing more than fan fic.

Post of the year.

 

[anatta]

No it is a result of Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Nothing anyone has done in 50 years has made such a difference in NATO's strength and size. It just shows that unintended consequences are a bitch and Putin brought it all on himself. Every country with a border with Russia will soon be NATO members. Many resisted because they felt it would be an escalation now they know better. Not being in NATO is an invitation to be invaded by Russia and that is quite clear now.

your facts (bolded) arent even correct -completely missing NATO expansion

"Nothing anyone has done in 50 years has made such a difference in NATO's strength and size."

never mind the Russiaphobia

 

[Cardinal]

your facts (bolded) arent even correct -completely missing NATO expansion

never mind the Russiaphobia

Wow, you can't resist taking the bait.

 

[Cardinal]

The fact that the story was eventually published, doesn't mean the FBI didn't illegally supress the story else where. It did indeed succeeded in suppressing news stories where it had influence, just not every one.

Or...maybe the story was bullshit, which is why no respectable news outlet published it.

If a story is only reported in far right and far left outlets, it's bullshit.

 

[anatta]

From the poll results it could not be soon enough for Twitter users. Tesla stock went up at just the thought that Elon would stop destroying their market share.

LOL Again with the Russian talking points. The IRA is a front for the Russian FSB just like Wikileaks.

The January 2017 report issued by the United States Intelligence Community – Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections – described the agency as a troll farm: "The likely financier of the so-called Internet Research Agency of professional trolls located in Saint Petersburg is a close ally of [Vladimir] Putin with ties to Russian intelligence," commenting that "they previously were devoted to supporting Russian actions in Ukraine—[and] started to advocate for President-elect Trump as early as December 2015."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency

everybody has "close ties"to Russian intelligence according to the IC. Odd Mueller said they were a private enetitity with those same "close ties"'.
Odder yet was the claim Kilimnik has the same "ties" when he was a long term state dept intel source

Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

The incomplete portrayal of Konstantin Kilimnik, so important to Mueller’s narrative, is found at the start of his report.

thehill.com

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you swallow anything the IC puts out hook, line, and sinker. I've seen their "intelligence" assassinate Qadaffi
throwing Libya to Libyan Islamic Fighting Group wolves and causing a bogus war in Iraq over fictitious WMDs
as well as the CIA arming "Syrian rebels" with more disastrous results

 

[iguanaman]

your facts (bolded) arent even correct -completely missing NATO expansion

never mind the Russiaphobia

The latest "Nato expansion" are Finland and Sweden, countries that demurred to Russia's wishes for 50 years until Putin convinced them that they were being had. Ukraine will be fast tracked into NATO too which never would have happened without Putin's disastrous invasion of Ukraine.

 

[anatta]

The latest "Nato expansion" are Finland and Sweden countries that demurred to Russia's wishes for 50 years until Putin convinced them that they were beng had.

no need to put in quotes what is real. And Im not about to debate the predicate to the Uk invasion with the likes of your rah rah.

 

[iguanaman]

everybody has "close ties"to Russian intelligence according to the IC. Odd Mueller said they were a private enetitity with those same "close ties"'.
Odder yet was the claim Kilimnik has the same "ties" when he was a long term state dept intel source

Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source

The incomplete portrayal of Konstantin Kilimnik, so important to Mueller’s narrative, is found at the start of his report.

thehill.com

~~
you swallow anything the IC puts out hook, line, and sinker. I've seen their "intelligence" assassinate Qadaffi
throwing Libya to Libyan Islamic Fighting Group wolves and causing a bogus war in Iraq over fictitious WMDs
as well as the CIA arming "Syrian rebels" with more disastrous results

You let the perfect be the enemy of the good. The good thing is we have assets that can counter Putin and his asymmetrical war on the US. A war he has apparently already won with you at least. It is sad to see and you are not alone unfortunately. The entire GOP is mired in Putin's doublespeak. Flitting from one conspiracy theory to another like moths to a flame.

Weapons of the weak: Russia and AI-driven asymmetric warfare​

Artificial intelligence is the future, not only for Russia, but for all humankind. It comes with colossal opportunities, but also threats that are difficult to predict. Whoever becomes the leader in this sphere will become the ruler of the world.”[1] – Russian President Vladimir Putin, 2017.

“A people that no longer can believe anything cannot make up its mind. It is deprived not only of its capacity to act but also of its capacity to think and to judge. And with such a people you can then do what you please.”[2] – Hannah Arendt, 1978

https://www.brookings.edu/research/weapons-of-the-weak-russia-and-ai-driven-asymmetric-warfare/

 

[Athanasius68]

Answer the question. To what extent is the laptop genuine? 100%? If so, how do you know that?

The FBI is using it.
That's the answer.
It was not Russian disinformation.
And the FBI knew it.
That's the issue.

 

[Cardinal]

The FBI is using it.
That's the answer.

To what extent?

It was not Russian disinformation.
And the FBI knew it.
That's the issue.

 

[Athanasius68]

To what extent?

Who knows?
The issue in this thread is that the FBI knew the laptop was legit. Yet worked to get it suppressed.

Apparently today, the more recent release of emails show that the FBI agents told Twitter directly that the NY POST article was a Russian hack job.
And they have no evidence for that claim.

 

[Cardinal]

Who knows?

If you don't know then you're not in any position to say that the data on the laptop is genuine. All of it could be real. None of it could be real. Half of it could be real.

You don't know.

So stop saying definitively that the loptop is genuine if you don't know that it's genuine.

The issue in this thread is that the FBI knew the laptop was legit. Yet worked to get it suppressed.

Apparently today, the more recent release of emails show that the FBI agents told Twitter directly that the NY POST article was a Russian hack job.
And they have no evidence for that.