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Turbo Cancer, fact or conspiracy

Terryj

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Turbo Cancer - the new Pandemic? | CANCERactive

Are we about to see a new pandemic - turbo cancer? Booster shots of mRNA vaccines seem capable of waking up cancer, (and dormant viruses) in the body; doctors and oncologists have noticed it, scientists are studying it.
www.canceractive.com

Scientists are starting to provide a clearer understanding of why people who have mRNA vaccines and booster shots (Pfizer and Moderna) are subject to more viral infections (for example, Shingles). But the greater concern is that some Oncologists are witnessing sudden and more aggressive cancers after a vaccine booster shot, where the cancers had previously been relatively calm and under control. This phenomenon has been dubbed Turbo cancer.

I saw an episode on Full Measure about this, so I thought I'd look it up. A google search will bring up all the pages saying it's a conspiracy, but I keep looking and found the page I posted. Very interesting read.
 
Conspiracy theory nonsense.

Social Media: Video Debunks the Term "Turbo Cancer" and Highlights Vaccine Safety​

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Fact Check: Contrary to social-media posts, there is still no evidence that Covid-19 vaccines increase your risk of cancer​


 
Terryj said:
www.canceractive.com

Turbo Cancer - the new Pandemic? | CANCERactive

Are we about to see a new pandemic - turbo cancer? Booster shots of mRNA vaccines seem capable of waking up cancer, (and dormant viruses) in the body; doctors and oncologists have noticed it, scientists are studying it.
www.canceractive.com

Scientists are starting to provide a clearer understanding of why people who have mRNA vaccines and booster shots (Pfizer and Moderna) are subject to more viral infections (for example, Shingles). But the greater concern is that some Oncologists are witnessing sudden and more aggressive cancers after a vaccine booster shot, where the cancers had previously been relatively calm and under control. This phenomenon has been dubbed Turbo cancer.

I saw an episode on Full Measure about this, so I thought I'd look it up. A google search will bring up all the pages saying it's a conspiracy, but I keep looking and found the page I posted. Very interesting read.
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From the UK's largest cancer charity? Please note, charities are different than research.
 
This is pure conspiracy garbage no doubt started by anti-vaxers. Page 1 of a google search reveals NO articles supporting this claim. If anything, just the opposite. If you're refering to the 1st link to pop up by the National Institute of Health, that article addresses the efecacy of MRNA vaccines in patients already being treated for cancer by medications that temporarily reduce the immune system.

If you had to dig to find an article contradicting articles by the most credible sources, you obviously are looking for proof against vaccines that doesn't exist.
 
Hey, if you spread this shit enough, maybe someone will skip that vax and die of Covid, that way, they won't be here to die of cancer.
 
Terryj said:
www.canceractive.com

Turbo Cancer - the new Pandemic? | CANCERactive

Are we about to see a new pandemic - turbo cancer? Booster shots of mRNA vaccines seem capable of waking up cancer, (and dormant viruses) in the body; doctors and oncologists have noticed it, scientists are studying it.
www.canceractive.com

Scientists are starting to provide a clearer understanding of why people who have mRNA vaccines and booster shots (Pfizer and Moderna) are subject to more viral infections (for example, Shingles). But the greater concern is that some Oncologists are witnessing sudden and more aggressive cancers after a vaccine booster shot, where the cancers had previously been relatively calm and under control. This phenomenon has been dubbed Turbo cancer.

I saw an episode on Full Measure about this, so I thought I'd look it up. A google search will bring up all the pages saying it's a conspiracy, but I keep looking and found the page I posted. Very interesting read.
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There is no way in hell that actual experts would call some kind of more aggressive cancer "Turbo cancer."

Or at least, it seems extremely unlikely.
 
Terryj said:
Scientists are starting to provide a clearer understanding of why people who have mRNA vaccines and booster shots (Pfizer and Moderna) are subject to more viral infections (for example, Shingles). But the greater concern is that some Oncologists are witnessing sudden and more aggressive cancers after a vaccine booster shot, where the cancers had previously been relatively calm and under control. This phenomenon has been dubbed Turbo cancer.
I saw an episode on Full Measure about this, so I thought I'd look it up. A google search will bring up all the pages saying it's a conspiracy, but I keep looking and found the page I posted. Very interesting read.
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Get your science from credible scientific institutions.
get your health advice from credible health organizations.

What you're doing, ultimately causes harm downstream.
 
The Mark said:
There is no way in hell that actual experts would call some kind of more aggressive cancer "Turbo cancer."

Or at least, it seems extremely unlikely.
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It sounds way, way to unscientific for a start and would just scare the shit out of anyone diagnosed with it.

They may as well just call it Grim Reaper Syndrome at the point where the name Turbo Cancer is considered.
 
KingLeo said:
Conspiracy theory nonsense.

Social Media: Video Debunks the Term "Turbo Cancer" and Highlights Vaccine Safety​

vaccine-safety-english-spanish

Fact Check: Contrary to social-media posts, there is still no evidence that Covid-19 vaccines increase your risk of cancer​


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Another factcheck debunks this conspiracy theory:


A video in which a Canadian doctor claims that COVID-19 vaccines cause so-called “turbo cancer” is not based on facts, according to five experts who spoke to Reuters.

Dr. Charles Hoffe, a family physician who is currently under investigation by the College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia for alleged misconduct related to spreading false information about COVID-19 measures and vaccines (here , here), made the claim during an hour-long podcast on Nov. 11 (here)....

Hoffe did not respond to a request from Reuters for data to back up his claims.

WHAT THE EVIDENCE SHOWS

“There is zero basis for any of the things being claimed here,” Dr. Gigi Gronvall, immunology expert and senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, told Reuters via email, adding that the narrative is “completely made up and none of it is true”.

Four other experts, Justin Stebbing, editor-in-chief of Nature's cancer journal, Oncogene, and visiting professor of cancer medicine and oncology at Imperial College London; Professor Neil Mabbott, personal chair in immunopathology at the University of Edinburgh; and Medical director of the Royal College of Radiologists Dr Nicky Thorp; and a spokesperson for The Vaccine Knowledge Project, also agreed that there is no evidence of COVID-19 vaccines causing cancer, nor a more aggressive so-called “turbo cancer”....
 
Peter said:
It sounds way, way to unscientific for a start and would just scare the shit out of anyone diagnosed with it.

They may as well just call it Grim Reaper Syndrome at the point where the name Turbo Cancer is considered.
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Unlike actual experts in the field, who would come up with descriptive names intended to convey some meaning, "turbo cancer" was likely a name devised by someone whose goal was mongering fear.
 
Terryj said:
A google search will bring up all the pages saying it's a conspiracy, but I keep looking and found the page I posted. Very interesting read.
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So let's get this straight.

You found some outrageous claim on the internet, and you saw it's likely a conspiracy theory, but kept searching through the credible rejections of it and kept searching until you found a non-scientific article about the conspiracy theory, and found it to be an interesting read, and was genuinely curious if it was a conspiracy theory?

We have Turbo Ignorance in this country that needs to be looked into.
 
Mach said:
So let's get this straight.

You found some outrageous claim on the internet, and you saw it's likely a conspiracy theory, but kept searching through the credible rejections of it and kept searching until you found a non-scientific article about the conspiracy theory, and found it to be an interesting read, and was genuinely curious if it was a conspiracy theory?

We have Turbo Ignorance in this country that needs to be looked into.
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I read a number of sites that debunked the idea of "Turbo Cancer" they all pretty much said the same thing, a couple of them were almost word for word the same and that is what peaked my interest to search a little deeper. If you search for this on google the first 3 pages is devoted to debunking this idea. I was curious as to why so much effort was put into debunking this idea if it is a nothing burger. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes next, if anything.
 
Anti-vax horseshit. A number of diseases can be prevented or made less horrible by getting a vaccine. People have died partially because they believed anti-vax woo woo nonsense on the internet. Listen to your doctor, not some blog article or MB post.
 
Terryj said:
\I read a number of sites that debunked the idea of "Turbo Cancer" they all pretty much said the same thing, a couple of them were almost word for word the same and that is what peaked my interest to search a little deeper. If you search for this on google the first 3 pages is devoted to debunking this idea. I was curious as to why so much effort was put into debunking this idea if it is a nothing burger. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes next, if anything.
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You were curious why so many good people posted evidence based refutations of harmful lies spread on the internet?
So you pushed the same lies in an effort to...spread harmful lies?

What's next, an investigation as to why so many people are in our legal system enforcing our laws?
 
Terryj said:
I read a number of sites that debunked the idea of "Turbo Cancer" they all pretty much said the same thing, a couple of them were almost word for word the same and that is what peaked my interest to search a little deeper. If you search for this on google the first 3 pages is devoted to debunking this idea. I was curious as to why so much effort was put into debunking this idea if it is a nothing burger. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes next, if anything.
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Lies about the dangers of vaccines kill people, by making some of them afraid to get vaccinated, which in turn means the overall group has less resistance to whatever is being vaccinated against.
 
Ginger Ale said:
Hey, if you spread this shit enough, maybe someone will skip that vax and die of Covid, that way, they won't be here to die of cancer.
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While I do not take an op seriously that uses a blog as a source, I was a cancer patient last year and I do not blame the vaccines, I would not worry too much about people skipping vax and dying of Covid. The pandemic is over and Covid has mutated down to something between the common cold and the flu in intensity. Personally, I am up to date on the Covid boosters, but then I am still somewhat immune-compromised from Chemo.
 
LetsGoBrandon said:
While I do not take an op seriously that uses a blog as a source, I was a cancer patient last year and I do not blame the vaccines, I would not worry too much about people skipping vax and dying of Covid. The pandemic is over and Covid has mutated down to something between the common cold and the flu in intensity. Personally, I am up to date on the Covid boosters, but then I am still somewhat immune-compromised from Chemo.
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Sorry to hear that you've been going through that! It's a battle many of us take on, and hopefully kick the shit out of !! :)


That said, I'm glad you are up to date because it does seem to make a difference. I'm also up to date, not taking any chances.
abcnews.go.com

Why are 1,500 Americans still dying from COVID every week?

Despite availability of COVID vaccines and treatments, an average of 1,500 Americans are dying from the virus every week. Experts explain why this might be happening.
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The death rate for those vaccinated is 5 times lower than those vaccinated. That's pretty big.
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How do death rates from COVID-19 differ between people who are vaccinated and those who are not?

To understand how the pandemic is evolving, it’s crucial to know how death rates from COVID-19 are affected by vaccination status.
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Ginger Ale said:
Sorry to hear that you've been going through that! It's a battle many of us take on, and hopefully kick the shit out of !! :)
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Thanks. Assuming I do not at any point relapse. I went into remission after three of six chemo treatments and eight months into remission, I now feel better then before cancer.
Ginger Ale said:
That said, I'm glad you are up to date because it does seem to make a difference. I'm also up to date, not taking any chances.
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I am not sure how effective it is at this point, however when you are immune compromised, it pays not to take chances.
Ginger Ale said:
The death rate for those vaccinated is 5 times lower than those vaccinated. That's pretty big.
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The same can probably be said for the flu as well. To be sure, the original vaccine was highly effective against those first two very deadly varaints, however now I think the boosters are hit and miss just like the flu shots. I keep up on the flu shots as well.
 
Threads like these are turbocancer.
 
Antivaxxers will believe any random ass dipshit with a youtube channel.
 
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