Tulsi Gabbard thinks race is tied to genetics

[Lord of Planar]

Race is arbitrarily grouping genetic traits. It has no genetic basis, itself.

The genes checked for grouping are not arbitrary. Each race has a set linage, with common genes.

 

[Michael Cole]

The genes checked for grouping are not arbitrary. Each race has a set linage, with common genes.

The genes denote phenotype which is particular to groups. Groups migrate. Black skinned people migrated north and became white skinned people. The differences are a result of natural selection, not a change in "race."

 

[ataraxia]

The words we attribute to race, such as “Caucasian, Hispanic, Asian etc” are social constructs. But the actual differences are genetic.

So are the genes for baldness.

 

[ataraxia]

The genes checked for grouping are not arbitrary. Each race has a set linage, with common genes.

It’s less than the difference between a golden retrievers and a black Labrador retriever.

 

[rahl]

So are the genes for baldness.

Ok

 

[rahl]

It’s less than the difference between a golden retrievers and a black Labrador retriever.

Which are 2 entirely different breeds.

 

[RealityNow]

But c'mon commies. Joe's diversity hires have sucked big time. Take the blinders off.

As usual... denialism of fact, that the history of "all white men" in Administrations has led to every kind of damage and tragedy within the civic and civil society of this country's history.

 

[ataraxia]

Which are 2 entirely different breeds.

Yes- that’s why it’s even less than that.

Human races are not like dog breeds: refuting a racist analogy - Evolution: Education and Outreach

In 1956, evolutionary biologist J.B.S. Haldane posed a question to anthropologists: “Are the biological differences between human groups comparable with those between groups of domestic animals such as greyhounds and bulldogs…?” It reads as if it were posted on social media today. The analogy...

evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com

 

[RealityNow]

Fact: The more diversity of race and gender within our Administration, the better the country becomes, the better it functions and the better the lives of American Citizens becomes.

It will get even better when there is more diversity within corporate executives suites, because currently we have to many Republican/Right Leaning and Right Wing CEO's who care MANUFACTURING inflation.. To try and lure the people to put another Republican in Office to give them more tax breaks and help them fight against workers rights and better pay for the workers labors.

Republicanism's Greed Madness won't continue to damage society, because people are becoming wise enough to simply cut back on their spending, rather than play into the hands of the Greed driven CEO's. and investigation will follow and many corporations with these Republican/Right Leaning and Right Wing CEO's will be exposed.

We will get more people in congress with the integrity of respect for the American People who stand against the financial abuses that CEO's have done to the American Working class, such as E. Warren, B. Sanders, K. Porter.

We will come to see a break up of these Monopolies who continue to try and destroy "competetion" by their acts of buying up the competetion and engaging in price fixing schemes. The architect of LBO (Leveraged Buy Out) has died... Billionaire Thomas Lee, who created the idea of a leveraged buyout, died on Thursday at the age of 78.

 

[ataraxia]

Which are 2 entirely different breeds.

Right, which is why I said “less than”.

Human races are not like dog breeds: refuting a racist analogy - Evolution: Education and Outreach

In 1956, evolutionary biologist J.B.S. Haldane posed a question to anthropologists: “Are the biological differences between human groups comparable with those between groups of domestic animals such as greyhounds and bulldogs…?” It reads as if it were posted on social media today. The analogy...

evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com

 

[reflechissez]

White skin is very new.

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

Most of us think of Europe as the ancestral home of white people. But a new study shows that pale skin, as well as other traits such as tallness and the ability to digest milk as adults, arrived in most of the continent relatively recently. The work, presented here last week at the 84th annual meeting of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists, offers dramatic evidence of recent evolution in Europe and shows that most modern Europeans don't look much like those of 8000 years ago.

Very interesting.

 

[rahl]

Yes- that’s why it’s even less than that.

So you acknowledge race is genetic. Good.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Sad, coming from someone who fancies herself as presidential timbre. I wish I could say its surprising.

Tulsi Gabbard is a traitor and a Russian agent.

 

[ralfy]

Sad, coming from someone who fancies herself as presidential timbre. I wish I could say its surprising.

From what I gathered, she's claiming that the Biden admin is wrong because it's hiring based on race, etc., which is what Hitler did. She adds that race is based on genetics.

Feinberg says that Gabbard is wrong, and that's because Hitler did not hire gays, minorities, etc.

You're arguing that she's also wrong because race isn't based on genetics. Rather, given identity politics, it's what one thinks one's race is. Is that right?

My points:

The Biden admin is wrong because it's hiring based on reverse racism or discrimination: people are hired based on what they think they are and not their merits.

You're right: race is not based on genetics but on that and many other factors. That's because it includes behavioral differences, too.

About Feinberg, I think Gabbard's point is that Biden is discriminating based on factors other than merit. So did Hitler.

In short, Gabbard's definition of race is lacking but her points about the Biden admin are valid.

 

[ataraxia]

So you acknowledge race is genetic. Good.

Skin tone and baldness are genetic. Can’t define race with stuff like that. Race is just what any given society defines it to be.

 

[rahl]

Skin tone and baldness are genetic. Can’t define race with stuff like that. Race is just what any given society defines it to be.

Well, race is genetically defined. Sorry. I do t understand why that upsets you?

 

[ataraxia]

Well, race is genetically defined. Sorry. I do t understand why that upsets you?

Not according to geneticists. Can’t be done. You cannot defined race just based on a single gene variation like skin tone, and the variations in the other genes are too much across populations to come up with any sort of distinct categories.

Where have you heard otherwise?

This doesn’t upset me. It’s just a common scientific misunderstanding in the lay public I am trying to address.

 

[rahl]

Not according to geneticists.

Uh, yes according to geneticists.

Can’t be done.

It’s done every day.

You cannot defined race just based on a single gene variation like skin tone, and the variations in the other genes are too much across populations to come up with any sort of distinct categories.

Of course you can.

Where have you heard otherwise?

Science. Race is genetic. I don’t understand why you think otherwise?

 

[iguanaman]

Fact: The more diversity of race and gender within our Administration, the better the country becomes, the better it functions and the better the lives of American Citizens becomes.

It will get even better when there is more diversity within corporate executives suites, because currently we have to many Republican/Right Leaning and Right Wing CEO's who care MANUFACTURING inflation.. To try and lure the people to put another Republican in Office to give them more tax breaks and help them fight against workers rights and better pay for the workers labors.

Republicanism's Greed Madness won't continue to damage society, because people are becoming wise enough to simply cut back on their spending, rather than play into the hands of the Greed driven CEO's. and investigation will follow and many corporations with these Republican/Right Leaning and Right Wing CEO's will be exposed.

We will get more people in congress with the integrity of respect for the American People who stand against the financial abuses that CEO's have done to the American Working class, such as E. Warren, B. Sanders, K. Porter.

We will come to see a break up of these Monopolies who continue to try and destroy "competetion" by their acts of buying up the competetion and engaging in price fixing schemes. The architect of LBO (Leveraged Buy Out) has died... Billionaire Thomas Lee, who created the idea of a leveraged buyout, died on Thursday at the age of 78.

Yes over half of the "inflation" increases in food are from increased profit margins. The large food conglomerates can raise prices at will without a worry since we all have to eat. And as a result discretionary consumer spending is down and bringing stock prices with it.

Rising food costs aren’t anywhere near the rise of corporate profits​

The 2022 Consumer Price Index showed that the costs of eating at home was over 13 percent higher in July 2022 than in July 2021, but the rising cost of food was only outpaced by rising corporate profits. Kraft Heinz raised prices twice in 2022 as its profit rose by 93 percent in the first half of fiscal year 2022. The food processing giant Archer Daniels Midland (AMD) saw a 63 percent increase in profits during the same time, largely due to rising prices from grain shortages associated with the war in Ukraine. General Mills, one of the largest consumer packaged food companies in the world, hiked prices five times during the past year while its net earnings increased by 46 percent.

https://www.triplepundit.com/story/2022/prices-inflation-corporate-profits/759171

 

[iguanaman]

Uh, yes according to geneticists.

It’s done every day.

Of course you can.

Science. Race is genetic. I don’t understand why you think otherwise?

LOL What we call race is nothing but natural selection due to environmental factors. All humans have the same genes and the variations are simply due to different ones being turned on or off. All breeds of dog are genetically wolves. Selective breeding is what made such a variety of sizes and types. All by turning certain genes on or off.

Race and human genetic variation
There is broad consensus across the biological and social sciences that race is a social construct, not an accurate representation of human genetic variation. Humans are remarkably genetically similar, sharing approximately 99.9% of their genetic code with one another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics#:~:text=a straightforward way.-,Race and human genetic variation,genetic code with one another.

 

[rahl]

LOL What we call race is nothing but natural selection due to environmental factors. All humans have the same genes and the variations are simply due to different ones being turned on or off. All breeds of dog are genetically wolves. Selective breeding is what made such a variety of sizes and types. All by turning certain genes on or off.

Race and human genetic variation
There is broad consensus across the biological and social sciences that race is a social construct, not an accurate representation of human genetic variation. Humans are remarkably genetically similar, sharing approximately 99.9% of their genetic code with one another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics#:~:text=a straightforward way.-,Race and human genetic variation,genetic code with one another.

And yet, race is determined by genes.

 

[iguanaman]

The genes checked for grouping are not arbitrary. Each race has a set linage, with common genes.

All humans genes are 99.9% identical. Race is nothing but natural selection that happened over 1000's of years.

 

[rahl]

All humans genes are 99.9% identical. Race is nothing but natural selection that happened over 1000's of years.

Distinguished by………genes.

 

[ataraxia]

Uh, yes according to geneticists.

It’s done every day.

Of course you can.

Science. Race is genetic. I don’t understand why you think otherwise?

Race is something that’s intuitive and obvious to scientifically uneducated laypeople, but not scientists- in the same way that the Earth seems intuitively and obviously flat to them. I mean any idiot can just look at the horizon and see that it’s flat, right? No egghead is going to tell them otherwise.

But it is incorrect information nonetheless, and not accepted in the scientific community. It’s not because they are woke.

Race Is a Social Construct, Scientists Argue

Racial categories are weak proxies for genetic diversity and need to be phased out

www.scientificamerican.com

How Science and Genetics are Reshaping the Race Debate of the 21st Century - Science in the News

by Vivian Chou figures by Daniel Utter Donald Trump’s election as the 45th President of the United States has been marked by the brewing storms of racial conflicts. A rise in racial incidents ensued in the immediate aftermath of Trump’s victory in November 2016. Since the beginning of 2017, over...

sitn.hms.harvard.edu

 

[ataraxia]

Distinguished by………genes.

There is more genetic diversity within what lay people call “race” than there is between these supposed races.